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To think that the majority of trans people are neurodivergent

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SlipperSliders · 22/06/2024 19:53

...and I sort of think it's a form of neurodivergence in itself.

By the way I'm trans affirmative.

I don't think I've met a trans person who I thought was neurotypical.

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Livinginaclock · 22/06/2024 20:49

Maternityleavelady · 22/06/2024 20:46

My colleague introduced herself as queer at our away day last week. No one batted an eyelid. Commonly used in my workplace (charity sector)

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Silence is not agreement.

HermioneWeasley · 22/06/2024 20:49

@Maternityleavelady I’m sorry your workplace has normalised homophobia 🤷🏽‍♀️

DuesToTheDirt · 22/06/2024 20:48

I think so too. I think it’s down to not feeling you fit in anywhere, trying to work out who you are and the fact it’s being thrust upon young people too.

This is definitely true of 2 of the 3 trans people I know. The third I haven't known as long, so I can't comment on that one.

Gruttenberg · 22/06/2024 20:48

Teacherprebaby · 22/06/2024 20:42

No it's not! Not anymore!

Definition: denoting or relating to a sexual or gender identity that does not correspond to established ideas of sexuality and gender, especially heterosexual norms.

It doesn't mean what it did in the 90s. It's also about the way it's used. Educate yourself before jumping to reporting 🙄

It does to those who were abused by people screaming it at them. Educate yourself.

TheKeatingFive · 22/06/2024 20:48

Maternityleavelady · 22/06/2024 20:46

My colleague introduced herself as queer at our away day last week. No one batted an eyelid. Commonly used in my workplace (charity sector)

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All you mean here is no one said anything.

HermioneWeasley · 22/06/2024 20:47

@Gruttenberg exactly.

Maternityleavelady · 22/06/2024 20:46

HermioneWeasley · 22/06/2024 20:21

No, it’s a disgusting homophobic slur and I’ve reported that post

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My colleague introduced herself as queer at our away day last week. No one batted an eyelid. Commonly used in my workplace (charity sector)

uhOhOP · 22/06/2024 20:46

CassandraWebb · 22/06/2024 20:34

Do you have to be a specified amount of not straight before you are allowed to identify as not straight? Is it a certain number of same sex people you have to kiss before you qualify?

Am confused, I am quite happy to let people label their sexuality if it helps them

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It seems to me that many people are almost desperate to force their way into "queerness". People with fetishes, people who practice non-monogamy, those who identify as "pansexual", and everybody else who either has their own flag or is pushing their way onto the pride flag. To be "queer" is to identify as a little edgy.

Gruttenberg · 22/06/2024 20:46

CassandraWebb · 22/06/2024 20:27

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer

@HermioneWeasley it seems to be a contested word but one that many use in a positive sense

And many regard in a negative sense, especially if they had that term thrown at them while being punched, spit on and otherwise abused. Surely the only people who should be able to reclaim that nasty word as their own would be the people it was targeted at. Otherwise it's spicy straights appropriating it. Gay appropriation with a nasty twist.

HermioneWeasley · 22/06/2024 20:46

@Teacherprebaby i am gay and was on the scene in the 90s. I’ve had all the education I need on this topic, thanks

TheKeatingFive · 22/06/2024 20:45

HermioneWeasley · 22/06/2024 20:25

Yes, the Cass review found people with ASD were massively over represented in the population.

Hannah Barnes found that experience of sexual abuse was massively over represented in girls being referred to GIDS.

being same sex attracted is also over represented among girls being referred.

This

TheKeatingFive · 22/06/2024 20:45

Teacherprebaby · 22/06/2024 20:42

No it's not! Not anymore!

Definition: denoting or relating to a sexual or gender identity that does not correspond to established ideas of sexuality and gender, especially heterosexual norms.

It doesn't mean what it did in the 90s. It's also about the way it's used. Educate yourself before jumping to reporting 🙄

You don't speak for everyone. Many gay people I know find it very offensive and are horrified by attempts to normalise it.

Tristar15 · 22/06/2024 20:44

Trans woman at my workplace is ND.

Teacherprebaby · 22/06/2024 20:42

No it's not! Not anymore!

Definition: denoting or relating to a sexual or gender identity that does not correspond to established ideas of sexuality and gender, especially heterosexual norms.

It doesn't mean what it did in the 90s. It's also about the way it's used. Educate yourself before jumping to reporting 🙄

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 22/06/2024 20:40

Hinkuy · 22/06/2024 20:16

Just picking up on some of the language in this thread. Is queer now an acceptable term? In the 90s this was an all out insult. Need to update my mindset clearly so please educate me!

It's very controversial- some gay people are fine with it, others are not. Personally, I'm not okay with it.

Pantaloons99 · 22/06/2024 20:38

@Hinkuy it's because of the word disorder. ASC is being more commonly adopted - condition.

It isn't your fault or anyone's because ASD is the term used on that MERK mental health manual or whatever it's called so that's the official term. I talk with my son who is Autistic and highly intelligent, perceptive and then realised myself, how awful to call this person disordered, because he's highly more capable and intelligent than alot of people out there. We also now just say Autism or ASC if needed. So that's the history on that one 🤷‍♀️😄

Edit - my son himself pointed out how highly offensive it is to him

HermioneWeasley · 22/06/2024 20:38

@CassandraWebb odds are that any poster on this forum is unlikely to be a gay man. Particularly a gay man who was out before the 2000s when the world was a much more dangerous and hostile place for them.

and people living ostensibly straight lives do not get to use that term. I don’t understand what’s hard for you to grasp about that. Do you tell black people it’s ok for white peoples to call themselves the N word if it helps them in some vague, undefined way and they should just suck it up?

FrippEnos · 22/06/2024 20:38

Hinkuy · 22/06/2024 20:35

No but what you said about the identity thing - what does that actually mean? I don't get it.

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It mean that they "feel" like an other gender.

That appears to be the definition.

CassandraWebb · 22/06/2024 20:36

Livinginaclock · 22/06/2024 20:35

Same, I don't use it for that reason.

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I don't use it either. But it is clearly being coopted in a different way now .

Willmafrockfit · 22/06/2024 20:36

it is very common yes

MadameMassiveSalad · 22/06/2024 20:36

Hinkuy · 22/06/2024 20:16

Just picking up on some of the language in this thread. Is queer now an acceptable term? In the 90s this was an all out insult. Need to update my mindset clearly so please educate me!

Have you bee under a rock for 30yrs?

Some older LGB folks find "queer" offensive still

Demonhunter · 22/06/2024 20:36

Younger ones probably, middle aged men, no.

Livinginaclock · 22/06/2024 20:35

HermioneWeasley · 22/06/2024 20:29

I don’t know any gay men of my generation who would ever call themselves the Q word. Y’know, because they actually lived through “queer bashing” and have the literal scars to prove it

Same, I don't use it for that reason.

FrippEnos · 22/06/2024 20:35

Hinkuy · 22/06/2024 20:34

I genuinely thought transgender and transsexual was all the same thing. I say trans sexual, I didn't realise this was offensive.

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As far as I can tell
transsexuals are those that had to prove that they had body dysphoria.
Transgender are those that feel like one of the many other genders.

MadameMassiveSalad · 22/06/2024 20:35

SlipperSliders · 22/06/2024 20:14

@glittercunt

But it's important that people don't equate someone being ND as meaning their sexuality or gender identity is therefore somehow invalid.

Yes I whole heartedly agree.

I just wonder if some transphobic people may hate less if they realised that they are being hateful to a group of marginalised ND people.

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Being gender critical is not about hate.