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To think these are typical meal times/bed times in the UK

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Verybritishtimings · 22/06/2024 18:57

Breakfast - between 6 and 8 (weekday/weekend dependant). Accept will be later if you have a long lie in - I have small kids so it doesn't happen.
Lunch - between 12-1.30
Dinner - generally between 6-8 - could be as early as 5 for small children.

Bedtime - between 9.30-midnight for adults under normal circumstances, no special events. Between 7-8.30 for youngish children.

I have a friend who constantly gaslights me about this. I'm crazy that my kids go to bed at 7 (they are ready for bed then and always wake before 7 regardless). I invite her round at 2pm and she brings HER OWN LUNCH because 'i eat so early and she couldn't possibly'. Is she trying to be every so continental or something?!

This is light hearted, don't care when people eat on their own time but my timings align with the majority of the population and the work/school day do they not?!

OP posts:
Neurodiversitydoctor · 23/06/2024 06:59

LadyFeatheringt0n · 22/06/2024 20:00

she was adamant that eating dinner before 8pm was unbearably common, and that it is far more refined to dine

There is a class element to this. Upper class types (and those who aspire to this) do tend to eat later imho. My very plummy mil is another example of breakfast at 10, lunch at 3.30, supper at 9.

Its a class indicator because the whole point of the definition of upper class is that they don't work, so no one has to be up at 7am. The "later meals" upper class day is structured around the meals being social events designed to fill an otherwise empty day - so breakfast is slap bang in the middle of the morning, lunch takes all afternoon and supper all evening. Entertainment could go on well into the night because no one had to be up the next day. All well and good when you've nowhere else to be.

Working people would have wanted to eat earlier, to fit in entertainment during the evening because if the knocker up is going to wake you at 6 you want to be in bed by 10.30pm.

I think this nails it tbh. When plummy MIL visits it does feel like an endless round of cooking/ eating/ clearing up, yes it fills time, almost completely incompatible with ft work. My DC are adults now, when they were small we did :
Breakfast 7:45 ( up and dressed first)
Lunch 12:30-1
Snack 3:30/4pm
Dinner 6:30/ 7pm

Bed for DCs 7:30-9
Bed for adults 10 ish

Everyone up @ 6:30

MIL preffered timings are:
Breakfast 9/9:30
Lunch 1:30/2
Tea 4:30
Dinner 8pm

Justleaveitblankthen · 23/06/2024 06:47

Here up north growing up:
Breakfast 8am
Dinner 12pm
Tea 5pm
Supper 9pm (usually ready brek) 😂

Bluemincat · 23/06/2024 06:37

Your times are typical/normal and this is evidenced by things like school and work timetables. Most kids have to be in school around 8.30/8.45 so will have to eat breakfast around 7.30. School timetables always have lunch between 12 and 2pm. Most workplaces specify lunch to be taken between 12 and 2pm. Dinner times obviously vary but if you assume a lunchtime of 1pm then 6-8pm would be typical for adults. More like 5pm for young children who go to bed at 7/7.30pm.

Your friend is odd for making such a big deal of timings and suggesting that you're abnormal. Adults can eat when they want but it's much more typical for people to eat lunch at 12.30/1pm than 2pm.

I often have meetings scheduled at work for 2pm. No one eats their lunch in them! How would your friend cope in an office job where taking a lunchbreak 2-3pm would be frowned upon?

S0livagant · 23/06/2024 06:32

I did enjoy a morning coffee outside in the early morning while kids were still asleep though.

S0livagant · 23/06/2024 06:31

Verybritishtimings · 23/06/2024 06:04

My 4 year old doesn't tend to like Grand Designs and a glass of Pinot Noir 😂.

Also, morning from 6am on a Sunday 😊. Having a quick coffee to myself before the the children wake-up. Bliss.

Adults don't always enjoy the same programmes either. I was lucky that my kids and I had similar tastes. If one person isn't interested in watching something then they can always read a book or play quietly.

Verybritishtimings · 23/06/2024 06:04

TheBestFriend · 22/06/2024 22:46

I never said adult only time was weird, I just wondered what it was for, i.e. how you would actually spend it every night if that was important for you.

I'm just more used to parents and children going to bed at the same time after watching tv together or similar. And 'adult only' time occurring more in the day when kids are in school or do their activities, or when something is organised specifically.

My 4 year old doesn't tend to like Grand Designs and a glass of Pinot Noir 😂.

Also, morning from 6am on a Sunday 😊. Having a quick coffee to myself before the the children wake-up. Bliss.

OP posts:
S0livagant · 23/06/2024 05:59

How does anyone not get adult only time while their children still sleep more than them (unless the extra is a nap while they are at nursery and you are working). If they sleep 9 or 10 hours and you sleep 8 then you've got an hour or two regardless of the actual time they go to bed.

MrsSunshine2b · 23/06/2024 00:54

TheBestFriend · 22/06/2024 22:06

I've always wondered... what is adult only time actually for?

Watching non-child-appropriate TV, having a conversation about something "boring" without being interrupted, enjoying sitting down without anyone climbing on you, tidying up a bit without someone else untidying faster than you can tidy, eating chocolate without being pestered to give your chocolate to someone else and then feeling bad because they've eaten too much chocolate today, and sex.

Kids in Spain are different, they've been used to being around adults their whole lives, and they don't seem to need constant entertainment like British children do. And it's socially acceptable, to take them with you to social events, bars, restaurants. It's not like kids in those places behave perfectly either, there's plenty of Spanish kids hurtling around like cannon balls and everyone just gets on with it.

Catza · 22/06/2024 23:01

Verybritishtimings · 22/06/2024 19:27

Ok fine but, to me, that's odd. I think the hours of 2-4 are generally accepted as a non meal time (which is why I generally invite people then 😂). If I were going to someone's house and knew I wouldn't be served lunch, I would tweak my schedule slightly to eat it before I went. No?

Maybe you would but, as I said before, I eat when I am hungry so I would not be forcing myself to eat just because it is somehow more socially acceptable. I will be far more likely to pack a snack or, better still, bring snacks to share.

Matronic6 · 22/06/2024 23:00

TheBestFriend · 22/06/2024 22:46

I never said adult only time was weird, I just wondered what it was for, i.e. how you would actually spend it every night if that was important for you.

I'm just more used to parents and children going to bed at the same time after watching tv together or similar. And 'adult only' time occurring more in the day when kids are in school or do their activities, or when something is organised specifically.

This weeks I have used my 'adult time' to watch Bridgerton, drink wine, read a book, deep clean the oven and organise/clear out my wardrobe. The time is very important to me.

I literally don't know any families with kids where viewing material overlaps and adults only watch what kids are also watching. Nor do I know any families where the adults have the same bed times as kids. Also if kids are in school, aren't the adults most likely to be in work? I definitely do not count that as 'adult time'.

Catza · 22/06/2024 22:58

Bbq1 · 22/06/2024 20:16

So if a friend invited you for lunch at 1.30 and you hadn't had breakfast you couldn't manage a small lunch Surely if a friend invited you wouldn't you plan ahead and eat less prior to the lunch date?

Nowhere did the op said she invites her friend for lunch. In fact she says she has lunch between 12 and 1.30 and that she invites her friend to come at 2pm which is after OP's lunch window so clearly no food is consumed at that time. In which case, yeah, I don't think it's all that odd to bring a snack.

TheBestFriend · 22/06/2024 22:46

DuckOffAWatersBack · 22/06/2024 22:27

@TheBestFriend, time to yourself? Time to decompress after parenting/working? Not sure what's weird about it.

I never said adult only time was weird, I just wondered what it was for, i.e. how you would actually spend it every night if that was important for you.

I'm just more used to parents and children going to bed at the same time after watching tv together or similar. And 'adult only' time occurring more in the day when kids are in school or do their activities, or when something is organised specifically.

Another2Cats · 22/06/2024 22:38

TBOM · 22/06/2024 19:12

Your dinner and bedtimes are super early for me. Dinner around 8/8.30. Bed closer to 11.

Just as another personal anecdote, normally we are rather earlier than that.

We normally eat around 5-6pm and are typically in bed by 9.30 - 10pm. But there are again, we are usually up by 6am in the morning.

The only reason I'm here now this late is that we've had guests round and they've just left.

DuckOffAWatersBack · 22/06/2024 22:27

@TheBestFriend, time to yourself? Time to decompress after parenting/working? Not sure what's weird about it.

User20056 · 22/06/2024 22:14

WhatNoRaisins · 22/06/2024 19:36

Your timings sound more typical for the UK. Nothing wrong with your friend doing things differently but she shouldn't be trying to make you feel weird for following a more usual pattern.

Can't imagine a 2pm lunch, mine would be seriously hangry if I tried that.

Ok but even if she does go 'omg that's weird, you eat lunch at 11?' Or whatever...

Who cares?!

Do people really have to walk on eggshells around friends? It's just a daily routine, no big deal!

TheBestFriend · 22/06/2024 22:06

Verybritishtimings · 22/06/2024 19:25

It's at the very low end for the recommended sleep for my kids ages but accept not so much for slightly older children. When do you get adult only time?

I've always wondered... what is adult only time actually for?

BingoMarieHeeler · 22/06/2024 22:01

Your friend sounds very tedious OP. This isn’t some lovely warm, light Mediterranean country. People should stop wanging on like it is 😄 I see it a fair bit on MN. We don’t take siestas in the day (because there is no heat, newsflash), and therefore why would we/our kids stay up late into the dark and cold evenings habitually for the fun of it? I enjoy a couple of hours child free in the evening, big deal 😄

spikeandbuffy · 22/06/2024 21:55

Trying to think what I do (no DC)

Early shift
Breakfast 9am
Lunch 11.30am or 12
Tea 5-6pm

Late shift
Breakfast 11am
Lunch 1.30pm or 2pm
Tea 7-8pm

Weekends anything goes!

Matronic6 · 22/06/2024 21:54

Your timings are completely normal, your friends are too. The only weird thing is your friends OTT reaction. I'd find it exasperating too.

ASGIRC · 22/06/2024 21:50

TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/06/2024 20:07

Your times are too early for me. I don't think of 12 as a normal time for lunch except for hospital patients or in an old folk's home, and likewise I don't want dinner at 6pm. I'm probably not home from work by then. And my son hasn't been in bed by 7pm since...ever actually. We are still eating dinner around 8pm.

I still think it is odd of your friend to turn up at 2pm with her own lunch, but I can believe if you are inviting people over at that time that you have eaten very early to be finished and washed up by then.

And it isn't really odd to be in bed by 10pm, but I don't know many adults who achieve it. I wish I was one of them!

Ha! This!

How do people even have dinner at 5 or 6pm? Id probably still be at work! I dont work an office job, but those tend to be 9-5ish, right??? 5 meaning you are finishing work??
And bed at 10pm is absolutely unachievable! I couldnt manage that even when I had 6am shifts, though my last 6am shift was before I had a baby.

With my baby, try as I might, I cant get to bed before midnight/1am, as she doesnt go down until at least 11, at the earliest, usually closer to midnight, and then I have to do all the jobs I wasnt able to do when she was awake!
She then sleeps all night until 7, and then goes down again until 11am, and the morning is the only time of the day when she sleeps soundly, and not just 15 minutes of light sleep!

wintersgold · 22/06/2024 21:49

Your times are normal but so are your friend's. YABU go accuse her of gaslighting

FallingIsLearning · 22/06/2024 21:47

Your bands of timings are very much normal.

I don’t eat breakfast as I leave early, but for the others in the household, it usually starts about 7.15, so they can get to school in time for breakfast club, and commute to work. It isn’t really later at the weekend, as sporting activities can be quite early.

My lunchtime depends on how busy things are at work, and can range between 11.30 to ‘not at all’ depending on how well or terribly the day is going. I’ve been in this job long enough to have learned that if there is an opportunity to eat/drink/go to the loo, you should take it, as you don’t know when the next chance will be.

Dinner time depends on what time everyone gets home from school/work and evening activities. It is usually about 7.15, but is either 6pm or 8.30 on Wednesdays, depending on whether we can all get home in time to eat before variou activities or whether we have to eat after.

LazyGewl · 22/06/2024 21:44

TheShellBeach · 22/06/2024 19:06

Gaslighting is rewriting events to suit your own agenda, and arguing that your version of what happened is the right one. It is not just disagreeing with somebody's opinion.

But the friend is arguing that op's timings are wrong. This isn't just a difference of opinion. She insists that she is right and that op is wrong. I have come across people like this and it does something very strange to your brain when you interact with them.

katepilar · 22/06/2024 21:42

knitnerd90 · 22/06/2024 21:28

I'd say typical though I do think the British are particularly early with when they put children to bed. I'm in the USA and things go a bit later -- not Spain late, but people tend to get home from work later so I don't know anyone who puts a child older than a toddler to bed before 8pm. Meanwhile my British family think that children can't possibly function if they don't have their tea as soon as possible after getting home and then bath and bed by 7.30.

The British like to have their "adult time". I was also surprised by this.

katepilar · 22/06/2024 21:38

Verybritishtimings · 22/06/2024 19:27

Ok fine but, to me, that's odd. I think the hours of 2-4 are generally accepted as a non meal time (which is why I generally invite people then 😂). If I were going to someone's house and knew I wouldn't be served lunch, I would tweak my schedule slightly to eat it before I went. No?

I dont think there is anything weird about eating lunch at 2pm. For some reason changing the schedule doesnt work for her. The only weird bit is her comments about you eating ridiculously early.