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When's right for family to visit newborn?

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York12345 · 22/06/2024 15:13

Hi all,

Got a bit of a family friction going on over when my parents (I am Dad) will meet our first baby. Would be grateful for your perspectives to gauge whether partner and I are being unreasonable.

Our beautiful baby girl was born 2 days ago. We've been quite keen to have just us 3 in a newborn bubble for a few days from birth to enjoy each other and recover physically + emotionally. Part of the reason for this is that we've had several miscarriages so savouring these few days by ourselves is valuable to us.

Unfortunately, my parents cannot understand this and we've fallen out because we think asking for space and a little time to ourselves is reasonable but they think they should be able to visit baby v. soon after birth. We've invited them tomorrow so they'll meet her when she's 3 days old. No other family or friends have met her. It will be their first grandchild and they live 20min drive away.

I can appreciate their perspective, but really struggling with how I feel they're putting themselves first. I feel like if there's a time to be selfish, it's in the immediate period after having your first child, but maybe my wife and I are taking that too far. All other friends and family have been so happy for us, so this contrast from my parents is difficult to take.

I know there's no right answer to this, but I'm keen to gauge if we need to adjust our perspective.

Thank you for your thoughts!

OP posts:
Saytheyhear · 22/06/2024 17:41

Gosh, your partner was in labour 3 days ago and she's now navigating breastfeeding and sleep deprivation as well as soreness etc.

3 days to host visitors is awful. Try 3 months.

That's reasonable for other cultures too. Japanese is 40 days, Asia is similar. Unless they're aiming to come round cook etc.

DanielGault · 22/06/2024 17:40

Sahara123 · 22/06/2024 17:33

We spoke about it and both my son and my daughter- it’s both of them- said we could visit straight away, and I know not to stay for hours .
Didn’t explain myself very well !

Fair enough!

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 22/06/2024 17:38

LemonCitron · 22/06/2024 15:27

The "newborn bubble" thing is quite a new concept which is why they're struggling to understand. I can see why you don't want overnight visitors, but as they're only 20 mins away I can't see the harm in letting them pop in for an hour. My parents met my first baby in the hospital soon after birth! It's your decision though OP.

It is a new thing, and it is understandable that grandparents don't 'get it'.
In the past some grandparents used to be at the hospital waiting for the birth, and they and other relatives would have been stunned to hear they couldn't see the newborn for days.
I am not saying this new tradition of keeping 'a bubble' is wrong for you but it is hard for older relatives to understand.

blackcherryconserve · 22/06/2024 17:38

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 22/06/2024 17:35

There doesn't seem to be a suggestion that the wife thinks differently. Why does 24 hours in what will hopefully be a long my life if the baby make the blindest bit of differnce?

But we don't know what the OPs wife has said do we (haven't read the whole thread). As pp said day 3 can be when new mum gets a hormone overload and won't want any visitor. I hope when DD2s baby arrives soon I will be welcomed to meeting my new grandchild sooner rather than later but obv I will go with her choice.
Incidentally how do you know if a grandparent has a long life left? I'm already 76 so time is against me!

Bristolnewcomer · 22/06/2024 17:37

If my parents had been so close I wouldn’t have minded them popping round for a limited time (eg an hour) in the hospital or when we were home, they actually visited at a similar time to yours.

Yours are out of order but they’re probably just desperately excited, I’d try to let the whole thing blow over - this is a new chapter of your lives and you’ll need them (assuming a good relationship usually).

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 22/06/2024 17:35

blackcherryconserve · 22/06/2024 17:27

Crikey I'm probably in the minority here but you have plenty of time in your new parent bubble when you take your baby home! I'm a grandparent and DD1 wanted me to meet her two babies within 48 hours not three days. Think YABVU asking your DP to wait so long to meet their first grandchild.

There doesn't seem to be a suggestion that the wife thinks differently. Why does 24 hours in what will hopefully be a long my life if the baby make the blindest bit of differnce?

icebubbles · 22/06/2024 17:34

Day three is the worst for hormones going max, would HIGHLY recommend waiting to day five if you can x

Rowgtfc72 · 22/06/2024 17:34

My dad and dhs mum visited the next morning in hospital for an hour. We had to stay in 3 nights as dd was early so when we left drove straight to dhs grandma where his mum and stepdad where. Visited friends across the road straight after.
That way everyone who needed to see dd had, and they then voluntarily left it a week before visiting without us saying anything.

Sahara123 · 22/06/2024 17:33

DanielGault · 22/06/2024 17:02

Respectfully, you sound incredibly entitled there and completely inconsiderate of your dils recent experience .it's not up to you to decide when you you see your grandchild, and it's incredibly rude to dismiss the DIL's feelings. It might all be fine, but it might not. And it's not an insult, it's often just needing a bit of space there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

We spoke about it and both my son and my daughter- it’s both of them- said we could visit straight away, and I know not to stay for hours .
Didn’t explain myself very well !

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 22/06/2024 17:31

York12345 · 22/06/2024 15:58

Thanks all. Seems an incredibly divisive topic.

I don't think I it's divisive as such, just that there's no right or wrong answer and you should do you. It doesn't matter what any other couple did, you wouldn't change your mind based on a random sample of posters who happen to reply to this thread would you?

I would have a word for warning though, your mother sounds overbearing, you could be in for a years of conflict between her and your wife if that hasn't happened already

Sahara123 · 22/06/2024 17:30

RomeoRivers · 22/06/2024 17:05

But not self aware enough to realise that the birth of your grandchild isn’t about you… 😂

That’s just silly . I wouldn’t over step but I also know they want me there. Because they said so. Doesn’t mean I’ll stay for ages, they’re just excited to show me their new baby.

Maty444 · 22/06/2024 17:29

RomeoRivers · 22/06/2024 17:23

Nobody needs to ‘explain’ their choices regarding their baby to anyone, not even to the grandparents.

Fair enough but the grandparents have the right to feel as they have also and if they end up being closer to the son/daughters family who haven’t behaved like this them that’s up to them too.

blackcherryconserve · 22/06/2024 17:27

Crikey I'm probably in the minority here but you have plenty of time in your new parent bubble when you take your baby home! I'm a grandparent and DD1 wanted me to meet her two babies within 48 hours not three days. Think YABVU asking your DP to wait so long to meet their first grandchild.

Genevieva · 22/06/2024 17:27

A few days is fine. Any longer might cause upset. My in laws were very demanding. They visited the hospital before I left the room where I gave birth. It was too much for me. Unlike my mother, who was there for me (also a retired midwife!) they were there for themselves. The baby didn’t need them and I didn’t need them. However, once we were home, I was fine to have them round. They were still too demanding though. They wanted to visit every week. They insisted on holding the baby throughout each visit. They accused me of arranging for my newborn to be asleep then they visited so they could ‘play’. They expected to have the baby overnight from 3 weeks old…. I breastfed on demand (as does everyone in my family) so they never happened. Their behaviour was so demanding that they alienated themselves. It was worse than that actually. While I was pregnant, my mother in law told her colleagues she was pregnant (at almost 60)! As soon as each child could walk and talk she lost interest. She’s seriously unhinged. But we learnt after the first that no one gets invited to the hospital and we will invite them soon after we get home. You have already done that. Your parents probably aren’t batshit crazy, so be kind. Make them feel included. Have them sooner rather than later and invite them back a fortnight after that.

Maty444 · 22/06/2024 17:26

NewName24 · 22/06/2024 17:12

This.

So I agree YABU.

I can see, that, in theory, of course the parents "have the right" to not allow grandparents to pop in for an hour, but know it will cause hurt and that you have now set the bar for making things difficult, going forwards.

This absolutely, I think if it were a case of being worried about boundaries this could have been easily handled, the mother could retire to the bedroom after half an hour with the baby. The father could suggest taking grandparents on a walk etc. If the DW couldn’t handle a short visit, again could of been easily explained by the father that she’s very tired, in a lot of pain, send lots of pictures, maybe FaceTime with the baby and please can we see how she is tomorrow.
Just ‘ we want to be in our own little bubble for x number of days’ does sound a bit pathetic and self centred

WhatNoRaisins · 22/06/2024 17:25

I'm not a fan of the if you don't give us want we want as grandparents then it's all your fault if we aren't close to your baby attitude.

RomeoRivers · 22/06/2024 17:23

Maty444 · 22/06/2024 17:17

Yes I do totally agree that people shouldn’t necessarily expect to hold the baby (especially with my first I felt obligated to let everyone hold the baby while also feeling very uncomfortable about it) and I’m very nervous about people bringing infections to the new baby too. Agree long visits too can be exhausting and end up interfering with establishing feeding as you then feel twice as worse when your up all that night but haven’t had the opportunity to rest in the day or baby has slept longer than usual during the day rather than feed due to all the holding and humdrum of chatter. I’m very much just talking about grandparents popping in for half an hour to just see the baby, congratulate the parents etc.
I think sadly this new trend has come about due to a sledgehammer with a nut approach to visitors who haven’t behaved appropriately. I do think expectant new parents who jump on this trend without much consideration (just because they’ve been told in some class it’s a good idea) are too up themselves to realise the message it gives out when most people are happy to share that joy with their closest family. If however the DW has just been knocked for 6 and can’t bare even a short visit then absolutely fair enough but think DH should explain that reason to his parents

Nobody needs to ‘explain’ their choices regarding their baby to anyone, not even to the grandparents.

Maray1967 · 22/06/2024 17:20

Yes, I do agree with this. It is up to the new mum to decide when she is ready to see people. Grandparents should not kick off if they have to wait a few days.

Husbandcantfindanything · 22/06/2024 17:20

It’s up to the woman who’s birthed a baby when she’s ready for visitors really. Is she bleeding/sore/anxious/tired/worried/learning to BF? If she wants rest, let her rest. Everything else can wait.

theowlwhisperer · 22/06/2024 17:17

NewName24 · 22/06/2024 17:12

This.

So I agree YABU.

I can see, that, in theory, of course the parents "have the right" to not allow grandparents to pop in for an hour, but know it will cause hurt and that you have now set the bar for making things difficult, going forwards.

Nonsense

Just read the many MANY threads of women who didn't set boundaries, who had to suffer through the visit of unwanted In-Laws instead of recovering in peace when they were at their most fragile time and who really struggled because of all this nonsense.

It is a bad start indeed when grand-parents decide the birth is all about them, not about the woman who has just gone through it!

Maty444 · 22/06/2024 17:17

RomeoRivers · 22/06/2024 17:00

‘having close family visit after going through all that is even more appreciated’

But that is not how the OP’s DW feels. They don’t want to have visitors for the first few days and that’s ok.

Sometimes people let everyone know beforehand to establish boundaries and avoid disappointment. This seems quite sensible and does not remotely make someone ‘up themselves’.

FWIW I came home a few hours after giving birth and had a take away with my PIL because they had been looking after our dog, and later our DD. However, I also exclusively breastfeed my babies and I was in a permanent state of undress in the first few weeks, so having to get dressed and make conversation with visitors was exhausting.

I think some people ought to remember that the baby can still feel like an extension of the mother’s body and not everyone will be comfortable passing them around like a doll, not to mention the lack of immunity in a baby so young. It’s pretty normal for new parents to feel overly protective; it’s a basic instinct.

Yes I do totally agree that people shouldn’t necessarily expect to hold the baby (especially with my first I felt obligated to let everyone hold the baby while also feeling very uncomfortable about it) and I’m very nervous about people bringing infections to the new baby too. Agree long visits too can be exhausting and end up interfering with establishing feeding as you then feel twice as worse when your up all that night but haven’t had the opportunity to rest in the day or baby has slept longer than usual during the day rather than feed due to all the holding and humdrum of chatter. I’m very much just talking about grandparents popping in for half an hour to just see the baby, congratulate the parents etc.
I think sadly this new trend has come about due to a sledgehammer with a nut approach to visitors who haven’t behaved appropriately. I do think expectant new parents who jump on this trend without much consideration (just because they’ve been told in some class it’s a good idea) are too up themselves to realise the message it gives out when most people are happy to share that joy with their closest family. If however the DW has just been knocked for 6 and can’t bare even a short visit then absolutely fair enough but think DH should explain that reason to his parents

Maray1967 · 22/06/2024 17:17

We had visitors the day after birth, but u don’t see why 3 days space is too much, if that’s what you want.

Word of warning: make it clear to your parents that when they do come there must be no comments about having had to wait. That will not go down well with your DW and it’s your job to speak to your parents about this.

NewName24 · 22/06/2024 17:12

MaryShelley1818 · 22/06/2024 15:24

I think this whole "newborn bubble" rubbish is so self absorbed. Usually trotted out by the same people who are gutted no one is interested in their pfb a few months down the line. And also people who have lists of rules and expectations.

Sorry but unless there's a huge backstory I don't know anyone in real life who would have treated their parents like this, both mine and DH's parents were elated when DS (and later DD) was born, we couldn't wait for them to meet them and the joy in their faces is something I'll remember forever. They all have such a close and lovely bond now.

I think you have to accept that you've chosen to do this, which is fine and your choice, but in doing so you've caused them a lot of hurt.

This.

So I agree YABU.

I can see, that, in theory, of course the parents "have the right" to not allow grandparents to pop in for an hour, but know it will cause hurt and that you have now set the bar for making things difficult, going forwards.

RomeoRivers · 22/06/2024 17:05

Sahara123 · 22/06/2024 16:50

I bet your Dad can though, I bet he was beaming !
As previously mentioned, this new born bubble stuff is a relatively recent thing. I can’t imagine being told I can’t see my new grandchild for a few days, thankfully neither my son or daughter would do this to me. Also I am self aware enough not to overstay my welcome

But not self aware enough to realise that the birth of your grandchild isn’t about you… 😂

theowlwhisperer · 22/06/2024 17:04

JudgeJ · 22/06/2024 15:16

Have the maternal grandparents got the same restriction?

completely irrelevant.

Seeing your mum and a virtual stranger, even a MIL, are 2 different scenarios.

People having a strop because they can't cuddle a newborn can only mean they have no respect for boundaries and are a pain in the arse.

right for family to visit newborn? when the MOTHER - the one who has gone through physical labour and is dealing with all the physical and mental issues - is ready.

OP you sound lovely and caring to respect that. Meeting a newborn at 3 days is VERY early, they should be very grateful.

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