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Are people actually insane?

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peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 09:32

Yesterday at my son's sports day a family brought an bully type dog onto the field in amongst the kids activities. Am I mad in thinking this is just twatish behaviour. Not all kids like dogs and they had it amongst everything, put me totally on edge.

I'm now at my daughters ballet class and sat in the wait room full of babies and toddlers and a dad has brought what I am sure is an XL bully in this room. It's tugging on the lead wanting to get off and is getting increasingly agitated.

What would you do? Are some people total fucking morons or aibu?

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peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 11:58

@DrinkUpBabyDown this is not what I said. I was sitting 4 metres from the dog in the waiting room asking for peoples advice on what to do. It then escalated to the play area. I left then updated the thread. Does anyone actually read up thread? Confused

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peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 11:53

Whinge · 22/06/2024 11:20

@peopleareinsane

So you didn't call the police? You keep talking about irresponsible dog owners, but you say you witnessed a dog fight in a children's play area and you just walked away? Confused

Yes I left. And have reported it to the ballet school. I wasn't sure that you could report this to police as is it a crime. Now I know that I can call so next time I will.

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Scorchio84 · 22/06/2024 11:52

Dogs aren't allowed on our school grounds.. any dogs, so this is crazy

DrinkUpBabyDown · 22/06/2024 11:43

Ihopeithinkiknow · 22/06/2024 11:36

It's hardly far fetched is it lol but I suppose it wouldn't be Mumsnet if there wasn't at least "this can't be real" written on every post going these days

It's more the fact that everywhere the OP goes, there's an XL bully in a kids' area. And she hotfoots it out of there and immediately posts on Mumsnet.

Ihopeithinkiknow · 22/06/2024 11:36

Pluto46 · 22/06/2024 10:09

Are people actually insane?.........to believe this made up nonsense

apparently

It's hardly far fetched is it lol but I suppose it wouldn't be Mumsnet if there wasn't at least "this can't be real" written on every post going these days

sleepyscientist · 22/06/2024 11:36

Setyoufree · 22/06/2024 11:03

Was it actually an XL bully though? Because I am always getting drama off people about my "XL bully" which is actually a Rhodesian Ridgeback and looks nothing at all like a bully.... Also the constant assumption that it's a dangerous dog. Yes she's big, no she's not aggressive. Obviously I wouldn't take her into the school grounds though

As if the ridge back isn't a big enough give away 🤦🏻‍♀️

@Misthios when we take the dogs we get stopped multiple times so I would argue the majority is now actually in the love dogs camp. We're semi rural so they stand out as cute dogs vs working spaniels. Why should we leave them at home they enjoy a run on the beach, a trip to the cafe that does home made dog treats along side the cakes etc. Whilst sat in their pram at table height so no one can step on them.

The majority of places don't actually allow dogs so you can easily avoid them if you don't want to go there like we avoid the places that aren't dog friendly. It's nice to see schools welcoming dogs back into everyday life after all the press recently kids wouldn't be afraid if it was normal and they weren't demonised.

listsandbudgets · 22/06/2024 11:35

Not right. My spaniel would LOVE sports day.. chasing, running, jumping and throwing things for her to run after but sadsly for her she's not going anywhere near it.

It's quite possible to leave dogs at home. There are places it's inappropriate to take them

Taking her to collect someone from a class might be different though especially if walking there and not going inside. You do encounter dogs all over the place so I think that's OK PROVIDED your dog is well behaved and on a lead.

Are you sire it was an XL - lots of breeds get mistaken for them

Sunmoonstars9 · 22/06/2024 11:35

All schools should make it clear that dogs with the exception of assistance dogs are not permitted within the school grounds. If every pupils family brought a dog to sports day it would be absolute chaos so why should one be allowed.

paperrocksiscissors · 22/06/2024 11:33

Misthios · 22/06/2024 10:52

Ours would actually love it as everyone wants to interact with them and they love people. We are that family that have a dog pram if needed to get them off the floor

Not everyone wants to interact with them. A large percentage of people couldn't care less about your animal, a smaller percentage actively dislikes animals or is scared of animal. Lots of people will be thinking "look at that CF with her animal in a ridiculous pram - so entitled that she thinks the rules don't apply to her".

Why would it matter if a dog is on the floor or in a silly pram? If it's not an appropriate place to have a dog then it's not an appropriate place to have a dog on the floor, in a pram, carried...

Jeezo.

Of course it matters if a dog is on the floor or in pram or carried!!

In London, most department stores and restaurants MAY allow small dogs that can be carried, if you have a child scared of dogs, theres a HUGE difference if a dog is being held rather than sniffing around on a leash.

By having a "Dog that is carried only" you basically rule out any muscular big fuck off type of dogs , even friendly labs, just tiny dogs that can sit in ones purse , bothering no-one.

fusspot786 · 22/06/2024 11:30

I would just add that not all 'bull breeds' are born equal by the way. Staffordshire bull terriers and English bull terriers are not the same as an XL bullies which seem to have been almost man made and designed to be aggressive.
So I'd try and be a bit clearer about the type of dog you're talking about before making a complaint. Of course all dogs, regardless of breed, should be on a lead in public. There's also no need for any dog other than an assistance dog to be in a ballet class. But you can't just go around saying 'the dog was a powerful bull breed therefore it must be dangerous' - that's simply not the case.
I say this as someone who owns a bull breed but also hates XLs with a passion.

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 22/06/2024 11:27

Whinge · 22/06/2024 11:20

@peopleareinsane

So you didn't call the police? You keep talking about irresponsible dog owners, but you say you witnessed a dog fight in a children's play area and you just walked away? Confused

And posted on mumsnet at the same timeHmm

Whinge · 22/06/2024 11:20

@peopleareinsane

So you didn't call the police? You keep talking about irresponsible dog owners, but you say you witnessed a dog fight in a children's play area and you just walked away? Confused

peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 11:18

@TheTartfulLodger the reaction from their owners seemed to send a signal that what they were doing was not acceptable.

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godmum56 · 22/06/2024 11:17

peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 09:37

Ok I'm glad it's just not me. I am HORRIFIED. I will email the dance leader. I've never owned a dog so I don't understand this mind set. But for fucks sake.

The mum and the dad are both here at the ballet wait room, surely one of you could have stayed at home with this dog. Twats!

I have had quite a few dogs and don't understand the mindset either.

peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 11:16

I feel that dogs should have a license like a driving license. Have a theory test.

You enter a room full of children and babies. Your dog becomes overstimulated and starts pulling on the lead, Do you....

A) leave the room immediately as it's not the right environment for a dog to be in
B) stay and aggressively tug the lead so the dog gets even more pissed off and angry
C) let it off the lead so it can play with kids

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TheTartfulLodger · 22/06/2024 11:14

peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 11:00

@Choochoo21 they were allowing the dogs to grapple with each other aggressively so yes they were allowing them to fight. It didn't seem like dogs having a lovely wrestle and play. It was nasty aggression from both dogs . It then escalated to a very intense growl at which point they stepped in.

But you've never had a dog before. How do you know it was aggressive and they weren't just sizing eachother up roughly? Have you actually seen what a bitch does to it's pups to teach them?

Topofthemountain · 22/06/2024 11:12

Setyoufree · 22/06/2024 11:05

What? So if a cafe says dogs welcome, and my well behaved dog lies under my table and minds her own business, you say I should have just left her at home?? 🤨

If your dog is allowed, then so is every other dog. How is it determined your dog is well-behaved and others aren't?

If you allow dogs, you allow all dogs. You can't pick and choose.

Summermightbegreat · 22/06/2024 11:11

peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 11:00

@Choochoo21 they were allowing the dogs to grapple with each other aggressively so yes they were allowing them to fight. It didn't seem like dogs having a lovely wrestle and play. It was nasty aggression from both dogs . It then escalated to a very intense growl at which point they stepped in.

You still need to call the police OP

TheTartfulLodger · 22/06/2024 11:10

Chipsahoy · 22/06/2024 11:03

People treat their dogs as if they’re people. I live on a farm. Dogs are animals not people, they live in the barns not the house. Apparently that’s cruel. They are dogs!
They are trained very well. I currently have a 9month pup. She’s massive. Sweetest thing ever and very much loved but she’s still an animal. Dogs don’t belong in cafes or places that other dog owners believe they should. We can love our animals without treating them like humans. We need to respect them as animals not expect them to react like a human. The entitlement of some dog owners is ridiculous. It’s as if the dogs matter more than children.

Unfortunately we don't all live on farms and not all dog owners have a barn to put their dog in. It's a real bind sometimes when i have visitors and can't put the dog in the spare cattle shed but there you go, we have to make do...

TheTartfulLodger · 22/06/2024 11:07

peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 10:52

I said bully type dogs. I have no idea if they are or not. All I know is they are fucking terrifying muscular dogs.

Unfortunately this is the problem with media hysteria. People don't know what breed the dogs are but have decided it must be one of the types in the headlines because they think it looks a bit like it. That would not be the criteria used to determine a bull type or XL. For all we know they could be not remotely bully type dogs.

OriginalUsername2 · 22/06/2024 11:05

Misthios · 22/06/2024 09:44

Have you met the kind of people who own these animals?

You politely say "excuse me, please could you wait outside with the dog" and you get a mouthful of sweary abuse. People are not prepared to get into confrontation with a person who has a big, scary animal with them. I wouldn't.

Exactly. I’d be scared the dog would bite my head off just for asking tbh

Setyoufree · 22/06/2024 11:05

What? So if a cafe says dogs welcome, and my well behaved dog lies under my table and minds her own business, you say I should have just left her at home?? 🤨

curious79 · 22/06/2024 11:05

This is dog owners generally. Not everyone likes dogs or wants them around.

Chipsahoy · 22/06/2024 11:03

People treat their dogs as if they’re people. I live on a farm. Dogs are animals not people, they live in the barns not the house. Apparently that’s cruel. They are dogs!
They are trained very well. I currently have a 9month pup. She’s massive. Sweetest thing ever and very much loved but she’s still an animal. Dogs don’t belong in cafes or places that other dog owners believe they should. We can love our animals without treating them like humans. We need to respect them as animals not expect them to react like a human. The entitlement of some dog owners is ridiculous. It’s as if the dogs matter more than children.

Setyoufree · 22/06/2024 11:03

Was it actually an XL bully though? Because I am always getting drama off people about my "XL bully" which is actually a Rhodesian Ridgeback and looks nothing at all like a bully.... Also the constant assumption that it's a dangerous dog. Yes she's big, no she's not aggressive. Obviously I wouldn't take her into the school grounds though