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Are people actually insane?

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peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 09:32

Yesterday at my son's sports day a family brought an bully type dog onto the field in amongst the kids activities. Am I mad in thinking this is just twatish behaviour. Not all kids like dogs and they had it amongst everything, put me totally on edge.

I'm now at my daughters ballet class and sat in the wait room full of babies and toddlers and a dad has brought what I am sure is an XL bully in this room. It's tugging on the lead wanting to get off and is getting increasingly agitated.

What would you do? Are some people total fucking morons or aibu?

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peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 13:14

SpicyMoth · 22/06/2024 13:11

YABU unless you also feel the same around German Shepherds, Dalmatians, Malinois, Huskies, Malamutes, Chow Chows, Boxers, Great Danes, Newfoundland's, English Mastiff's, the list goes on.

Yep I do. If I couldn't pick up a dog and throw it across the room if it was attacking me I don't want my children near it.

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SpicyMoth · 22/06/2024 13:11

YABU unless you also feel the same around German Shepherds, Dalmatians, Malinois, Huskies, Malamutes, Chow Chows, Boxers, Great Danes, Newfoundland's, English Mastiff's, the list goes on.

mindutopia · 22/06/2024 13:07

It’s not insanity. It’s small dick energy.

ilovesushi · 22/06/2024 13:02

People are mental. It is completely inappropriate to bring a dog into those situations. I love dogs, I love dog friendly places but some places need to be dog free.

Tatiepot · 22/06/2024 12:58

Me and DS would love to get a dog at some point, but the way some people are with their dogs now - the whole furbaby can go anywhere never mind who it upsets thing - is really putting me off. I just don't want to be associated with that kind of behaviour just because I have a dog.

LoftyTurtle · 22/06/2024 12:50

Unfortunately, owning an XL bully almost invariably goes hand in hand with being incredibly thick. Only someone incredibly stupid wouldn't A. Research the dog breed they're buying before buying one, B. Believe the actual proven lies that XL bully breeders spout (Nanny dog myth which was created by enthusiasts of dog fighters to try and sanitise their fighting dogs) C. Buy a dog that is, given its breed, essentially guaranteed to be either supporting dog fighting and/or puppy farms D. Not bother to understand or research basic fucking dog behaviour before buying a dog. "Oh he's just being protective of the baby, how cute!" No, that's resource guarding and you or your baby is 1 step away from being mauled

Anyone who buys an XL bully or believes they have the potential to be nice family pets are at best absolutely deluded, and at worst, absolute idiots

DillyTin · 22/06/2024 12:49

Procrastinates · 22/06/2024 09:34

I find it very hard to believe no one from the school or ballet class have said anything? Confused

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YankTank · 22/06/2024 12:47

Topofthemountain · 22/06/2024 12:24

There will be lots of people gritting their teeth and getting on with it. Don't take lack of objection to mean that it was"positively received".

I wouldn’t complain outright myself, but would be seething inside. So true, my lack of objection doesn’t equal consent either.

Miyagi99 · 22/06/2024 12:43

peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 09:41

I somehow am relaxed around small dogs. But I'm sure they could cause a nasty bite. But this dog is muscular and huge. If it turned, someone would be dead in a minute.

if it’s an XL Bully legally it needs to be muzzled. I’m a dog owner but wouldn’t take my dog to either the activities you’re describing, not fun for the dog either I should think!

SanctusInDistress · 22/06/2024 12:34

The thing is these dog types are a status thing amongst some people, and if you’ve got nothing else to feel proud or confident about, then you get one of these types of dogs, that’s why they do it. These people bringing in these dogs to these events must have been trying to make themselves look better ‘look at me I’m a macho man’, when in reality they probably have a lot of angst and lack of confidence.

Hedgeoffressian · 22/06/2024 12:32

fusspot786 · 22/06/2024 12:21

Are you referring to all 'bully breeds' or just the XLs?

The ones that own the bigger bully types. My brother owns one and he fits the stereotype perfectly. Its all about the dog. How ‘sweet’ he is. He jumps up at the kids, he’s knocked them over. He jumped up at me and I ended up with scratches all over my legs. He seems friendly enough but he’s a massive chunk of muscle. He literally looks like he’s on steroids (a bit like my brother 🙄). His jaw is massive and I shudder to think of the damage he could do if he wanted to. I dont go round there much because of it.

Coffeebreakneeds · 22/06/2024 12:30

There will be lots of people gritting their teeth and getting on with it. Don't take lack of objection to mean that it was"positively received".

Quite the opposite, they are very much welcomed and it works well. The children make a beeline for dogs to make a fuss of them as they know them all. There is plenty of space for everyone so if someone wanted to avoid the dogs they can, but everyone comes to sit amongst them. If a parent doesn't bring their dog everyone moans that they aren't there! Works very well at our school but appreciate it doesn't everywhere.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/06/2024 12:28

fusspot786 · 22/06/2024 12:21

Are you referring to all 'bully breeds' or just the XLs?

Mainly the XLs inasmuch as it's possible to identify them, fusspot786

Nothing wrong with a "big" dog in appropriate places, but alarm bells start flashing when they're unmuzzled, have a multi spiked collar, are called something like Satan and come attached to an individual who clearly has fewer IQ points than they

Topofthemountain · 22/06/2024 12:24

Coffeebreakneeds · 22/06/2024 12:06

Our school allows dogs on leads at sports matches. Sometimes the teachers have their dogs as well. Most parents who bring dogs have very well behaved ones who just lie down by the chair. Never been any issues and they are always positively received by everyone especially the children.

There will be lots of people gritting their teeth and getting on with it. Don't take lack of objection to mean that it was"positively received".

Cornflakes44 · 22/06/2024 12:23

This is part of a trend that I notice a lot. Dogs are now seen like children and have all the same rights as people. You can't go into a cafe or restaurant round mine without it being full of dogs. I actually hate dogs but even if I didn't I'd think it was inappropriate to have them in places with food.

fusspot786 · 22/06/2024 12:21

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/06/2024 12:14

But what fucking twat even thinks this is a good idea

The sort who would choose an animal like this in the first place?

And it's often not difficult to work out what "type" of dog it is ... take a look at the owner and the closer their knuckles are to the ground the closer to a bully breed it'll be

Are you referring to all 'bully breeds' or just the XLs?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/06/2024 12:19

It's quite possible to leave dogs at home

True, but then the owners wouldn't have their "I'm a big guy, me" accessory and some are clearly so inadequate that they need them to prop their egos up

For that matter it's also possible to insist on dog liceences, neuter the breeds out of existence and more, but what makes anyone think such owners would take any notice?

Edited to add - as for "the ban", what ban?? The huge estate a couple of miles from me is still crawling with the things

Hedgeoffressian · 22/06/2024 12:16

I would have had a quiet word with one of the teachers if it were me. My husband was badly attacked as a small child by a bull type dog. Not everyone likes being around big boisterous dogs. I do think some of the owners of these types of dogs are out to prove a point (following the XL bully ban) by shoving them in everyone’s faces to prove how ‘harmless’ they are. Quite astonished that the school didn’t say anything to be honest. They have a duty of care towards the children on their premises and they failed.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/06/2024 12:14

But what fucking twat even thinks this is a good idea

The sort who would choose an animal like this in the first place?

And it's often not difficult to work out what "type" of dog it is ... take a look at the owner and the closer their knuckles are to the ground the closer to a bully breed it'll be

WingsofRain · 22/06/2024 12:13

AmiShitsaline · 22/06/2024 09:59

Huskies are lovely looking dogs but have also killed a baby a couple of years ago.

That was a very unusual case and there were background circumstances that you can read about online. It was in no way representative of normal behaviour for the breed.

peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 12:09

@Fairyliz I am going to predict I would have faced a similar wrath this morning if I had said anything.

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Fairyliz · 22/06/2024 12:06

TomatoSandwiches · 22/06/2024 10:07

There are lots of stupid, entitled, anti social people around unfortunately.
I have no problem pointing out their shitty behaviour and often get a mouthful of abuse back but 9/10 times they leave or stop doing whatever it is.

People need to collectively address individuals like this but no one wants to take that risk, which I understand but also find frustrating, that's how they get away with their nonsense.

I used to work in a primary school office so all the parents would come and complain to me when an incident like this happened.
Unfortunately last time I tackled it I ended up with a parent smashing the office door and promising to fucking kill me.
As you can imagine I didn’t tackle it again.

Coffeebreakneeds · 22/06/2024 12:06

Sunmoonstars9 · 22/06/2024 11:35

All schools should make it clear that dogs with the exception of assistance dogs are not permitted within the school grounds. If every pupils family brought a dog to sports day it would be absolute chaos so why should one be allowed.

Our school allows dogs on leads at sports matches. Sometimes the teachers have their dogs as well. Most parents who bring dogs have very well behaved ones who just lie down by the chair. Never been any issues and they are always positively received by everyone especially the children.

peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 12:04

@CarrotySnack spot on. I have heard a similar analogy when it comes to violent men and trying to explain how women feel.

Imagine you are put in prison with hundreds of inmates. Four of those inmates want to murder you but you don't know which ones

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CarrotySnack · 22/06/2024 12:01

To all the 'how do you know it was dangerous' comments: it's perfectly fair to be unsettled by large, muscular dogs not on a lead, in public spaces. Why do we only get a right to feel unsettled or scared if we can be certain that a dog is a dangerous breed?! Danger doesn't work like that, does it? If I told a friend to get in a random stranger's car, I wouldn't scoff if they said they weren't sure if the bloke was definitely decent or not. And as many people have said, it's not as simple as saying only XLs are dangerous - many breeds of large dogs can turn dangerous in the wrong moment.

I'm tired of people who think they have a right to go around making other people feel scared, and then act as if we're the ones with a problem.