Guy revealed this on phone.

Manipulation is trying to control or influence someone, which I’m not doing. I said I think she’s free to do whatever she likes – quite the opposite of manipulation. How she feels about my opinion is her own business.

Where's the "bi bashing"? Are people not allowed preferences? Should we be forced to date people we don't want to? What exactly is your problem?

I’m no more interested in a man who needs to experiment with men than I am in group sex, so it would be a hard no for me.

She’s entitled to not have sex or date anyone she doesn’t want to. If the sole reason for the switch off in attraction is someone being bisexual or having had a sexual experience with a member of the same sex, then yes, in my opinion, that is rooted in homophobia/biphobia.

Many people feel this way – I don’t particularly care that they do, but I do think it is what it is. My own DH feels this way and I also said the same to him. We were able to have a conversation about it without anyone feeling offended.

If a gay man expresses the same, then yes – heterophobia/biphobia would be the equivalent.

Jesus wept. I'll say this then i'm done cos I've got a headache from trying so hard. I don't agree with the homophobic aspect but that's what you think so that's that. It was the post I quoted I had issue with. An attempt at manipulation that was shit luckily and easily spotted. Just say what you want to say instead of looking daft.
One last time, do not (attempt to) manipulate women into ignoring their wants and boundaries. Thanks.

@Didimum am confused. A woman not wanting to have sex with a bisexual man is homophobic? Can't make this choice with out being called a bigot? A gay man saying the same is he homophobic?

Men are such vile creatures.

I’m not talking about mentioning group sex on a first date, I’m talking about the bisexual aspect.

I also said OP is entitled to treat dating or relationships however she wishes to.

Viewing something as a homophobic cause is not manipulation, because I don’t care what OP does.

Try harder.

He's just testing the water to see how far and in how many people he can stick his dick without you objecting.

You cannot control the ick. It can't be bargained with, there's no compromise, you can't wait it out cos it's got infinite time & patience - just accept it, move on. You can't be blamed for what you can't control.

You are indeed entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that you need to have a look at why you are trying to manipulate a woman into ignoring her own wants and boundaries. There's something in that I'm sure. It's a little dark.
FYI, very simply, women and men are totally entitled, should be encouraged infact, to follow their intuition on whoever they are dating. The group aspect wouldn't bother me for example but it would raise my hackles if mentioned on the first date. No thanks. Next please.

What absolute nonsense. Are you telling me that if a black man said he wasn't attracted to white women that would be racist? That he's not allowed to only want to date black women? Or is it only racist when it's white people?

I’m not telling her to ignore them. I just saying what, in my opinion, the aversion rooted in. Rage all you like.

I don't think we are anymore. I would hate dating these day's I know that. I've seen 'close minded' mentioned a few times. Sad if that's coming from other women.

56 🥴
So not the ingenue he'd have you think he was !

And they did stating I was dressing up phobic feelings as boundaries ! Oh the attempt to chastise and force guilt! Are we not allowed boundaries anymore?

Haha can’t believe you googled it!! To ‘enhance’ your image, imagine the ‘mime-ee’ is a 56 year old, naked bloke 🤢

Imagine thinking you're clever, spouting this bullshit, trying to tell a woman that her wants equal prejudice. I'm going to guess that you get more blatant further along the thread. Stop telling women to ignore their boundaries with regards to who they share their bodies with. Thanks.

Edited for shocking grammar due to the rage.

I'm with this answer. It doesnt matter one jot if others would be ok with it, you arent. You arent obliged to continue dating someone.

So, move on and let both of you find someone you are compatible with. You've only been on one date, it's not like you've promised each other to be together for a life time. Sometimes people arent compatible and thats ok- better to find out now than later on.

I know totally agree with you, he wouldn't be for me either. I'd sack him off too OP.

The point is it bothers you, and has put you off him - that's why you're posting. Whether other posters would or wouldn't be ok with it isn't relevant. You're entitled to your feelings and are under no obligation to continue the connection with this man...... unless you want to.

How you feel is how you feel... not going into the rights and wrongs of it but if the idea of homosexual sex gives you a massive ick then I'd say thats pretty much the definition of homophobia personally. Irrelevant, it's still how you feel.

But hang on - if he tells you early on he is 'setting you up for group sex'... bad bad person, red flag.

If he DOESN'T tell you early on, he's misleading you...bad bad man, red flag.

Well he can't fucking win then can he?

Just awful! I'm sorry you had to experience that.

Do you want to be in a 'group situation' ? That is not a conversation I'd want to have with someone I'd only just met, but at least he's laid his cards on the table. To not want to have sex with a bi sexual man is not homophobic.

Whatever way you want to read it 👍 I don’t particularly mind.

If you want to dress up phobic feelings as boundaries, then go ahead.