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WishIwasmumsy · 21/06/2024 14:11

I had my husband back after a trial separation, we told the kids he was looking after grandparents house so never actually told them we were splitting. Since having him back I am regretting my decision, nothing has changed. He is still so lazy and goes out all the time. Last week he went to 2 gigs and was rough the following days and tonight he has just asked if he can go to one as he has been offered tickets. This will mean he will not come home from work, I think this time I am even more unhappy than last time. We don't talk anymore, I just go to bed as I am tired or just avoiding him. Our kids ae 6 and 3 and I just want what is best for them.

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Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 18:40

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 18:39

I am ok :), not even been tempted to have a wine either :)

Is he still with you ?

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 18:39

Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 16:23

I hope @WishIwasmumsy is safe

I am ok :), not even been tempted to have a wine either :)

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Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 16:23

TheShellBeach · 23/06/2024 16:19

Did MN ban him @WishIwasmumsy or just delete his thread?

What I mean is, is he still reading this?

I hope @WishIwasmumsy is safe

TheShellBeach · 23/06/2024 16:19

Did MN ban him @WishIwasmumsy or just delete his thread?

What I mean is, is he still reading this?

MadeForThis · 23/06/2024 16:08

The relationship is over.

WigglyVonWaggly · 23/06/2024 15:34

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 08:25

Yes, he is saying that it is me that has to change, he says if he had sex more then he would automatically become more helpful? what'?

Oh right - so him not being a lazy slob who needs picking up after is your reward for having sex? Well, aren’t you the lucky one?! He needs to give his head a wobble. Helping around the house is his obligation as a fellow adult. He’s using it as a way of getting more sex and it’s pathetic. God, no wonder you’re sick of him and don’t want to have sex with him.

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 15:27

BirthdayRainbow · 23/06/2024 15:24

I'm sure you'll feel the need to drink less once you get this twat out.

I already feel somewhat relief. I think it is over now, I dont feel the need to drink wine, think I just got into a habit. I am so glad I have realised that it couldnt carry on. I mentioned it to partner and he said yes but it doesnt affect my parenting, it absolutely does and they mean the world to me.

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BirthdayRainbow · 23/06/2024 15:24

I'm sure you'll feel the need to drink less once you get this twat out.

asbestosmouth24 · 23/06/2024 15:24

Didimum · 23/06/2024 09:47

He keeps sending me videos of what happens to men when they are deprived of sex.

What the shit did I just read?

I thought that too. if the videos are from YouTube then please report the videos to. Arsehole incel men are obviously using these videos to control women into getting sex. And what actually does happen to men in these videos who don't get sex? oh let's guess, their testicals probably explode.
Definitely LTB op.

BirthdayRainbow · 23/06/2024 15:20

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 09:19

He is trying to make me think that he is right. I am not perfect but I am not accepting full responsibility for this, he is saying it is all my fault.

He's trying to prepare you for forceful sex.

BirthdayRainbow · 23/06/2024 15:09

He did something that many people would have divorced him for. I stayed. Then he said something that was so unforgivable it was all over. When you know you know.

Staying with their father when you feel like this is NOT what is best for them.

LargerThanAHobbit · 23/06/2024 15:09

So the other thread has been deleted.

I could give you and him a whole load of advice and sympathy, but I don't think it would help.

He is at heart a "traditional" man or a "misogynist", depending on which way you look at it. Deep down, he believes it is a woman's job to care for the house and children, and provide sex. Anything he does around the house is "helping you", not stepping up of his own volition to do what he perceives to be his natural responsibility.
He also believes that because he earns more, that makes up for the lack of parenting and housework on his part. And that his long hours are perfectly acceptable.
And on top of that he doesn't see anything wrong with the amount of time he spends on his sports, or time he spends away from the family doing his own thing.
He thinks if you went out with friends or hobbies for the same amount of time, it would all be fine. I don't believe for one second that he realises how much you do, and if you were out as much as him then that stuff just wouldn't get done, as he wouldn't do it. Then the children would suffer, living in a dirty house, or with no clean uniform ready, or no clothes that fit as they have outgrown them, or crap convenience food, or toys all lost and broken as no-one made sure they were tidied carefully, etc. etc.

In short, divorce him.
When he is gone, you will find it easier to cut out the wine, and start re-building yourself and your life.

TheShellBeach · 23/06/2024 14:40

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 14:16

I wouldnt call what he did this morning assault. I should have said excuse me instead of just trying to get past

It feels safer to appease an abuser so that they don't hurt you again.
We understand.

VisitationRights · 23/06/2024 14:40

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 14:16

I wouldnt call what he did this morning assault. I should have said excuse me instead of just trying to get past

In a gentle way, OP, you are minimising his abusive behaviour. He elbowed you to hurt you. Would his behaviour be acceptable towards a stranger? What about towards your children? You know it wouldn’t be and it is acceptable towards you either. How would he react if you had done that to him. You need to get away from him.

TheShellBeach · 23/06/2024 14:38

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 14:16

I wouldnt call what he did this morning assault. I should have said excuse me instead of just trying to get past

I think he's told you to backtrack.
He doesn't like being outed as a domestic abuser but we can see him.
Don't worry. A better life is ahead, when you've split up.

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 14:16

I wouldnt call what he did this morning assault. I should have said excuse me instead of just trying to get past

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SunTanningToday · 23/06/2024 13:56

“I go out once a week with a friend for an hour and bring home a takeaway”
yet
“Last week he went to 2 gigs…and has just asked…”
The truth needs to be ascertained here.

I pick one child up from School/Nursery on a Monday and Tuesday in order to support as after school clubs end at 5.30/6pm
WTAF? You’re an equal parent, not a supporting act, Taupe.

Mrsjayy · 23/06/2024 13:34

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 12:33

Apparently if we had sex more he would help around the house

So like a trade off ? No thank you it's his house too so part of the stuff that needs doing is his!

VisitationRights · 23/06/2024 13:31

He’s an abusive dick who is trying to take away your support. You were right when you said that he just has to win, that is why he has posted on mumsnet, he is just trying to win. He can get ti fuck. Asshole.

TheShellBeach · 23/06/2024 13:30

I'm worried for you.
Are you safe at the moment?
Bearing in mind he knows about this thread and has started his own?

BettyBardMacDonald · 23/06/2024 13:27

WishIwasmumsy · 21/06/2024 16:29

He keeps saying that he has asked me to change some things, he said I am not affectionate towards him, I cant be because of the way I feel towards him. Every night I make tea, the least he could do is clear up after. I am sick of coming down in the morning to a load of shit where he has been sat, beer bottles etc, it is just digusting.

Take photos and videos of that sort of thing to remind yourself when you are wavering.

BigBoysDontCry · 23/06/2024 13:02

tothelefttotheleft · 23/06/2024 12:34

@BigBoysDontCry

Can't your children take on some of the chores?

Yes, they already have and it wasn't much to be honest. I've also got them doing more. I sort of stopped getting them to do things as whilst I think they should do things for themselves, I didnt think it was fair getting them to clear up after their dad and also didn't want ex doing even less. Boys have always looked after their own bedrooms, changed their own beds, done their laundry etc

Most of the time it will just be me and eldest. He's autistic and works part time but we've agreed to have a proper rota and he'll happily follow it. We have DS2 home for a few weeks and it's already clear that they can manage to fill the dishwasher and wipe down the worktops without being asked.

Ds1 has been doing the grass and weeds for a few months.

Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 12:57

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 12:24

Things felt a lot more manageable as he always said I needed to drop my expectations and then I would never feel let down. I dropped all expectations and felt more at ease. I am not innocent in this and I need to point out that he has never physically hurt me, other than the incident this morning and smacking my bum so hard it left a handprint, the odd finger pointing in face and swearing etc.

It almost feels like he's brain washing you. And gas lighting.

Since he knows about this thread. Has he told you to say he has not hurt you .

He told you to drop expections. So you would not feel let down... that's fucked up.

It's not exactly the same as your situation but with my ex I felt like a slave to the house, and a slave to him. He made me feel like I had no value. When I finally ended the relationship for good . It felt a massive weight lifted. Everything feels much better without him around.

I hope you are able to end the relationship for you.

RedHelenB · 23/06/2024 12:54

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 09:40

I do question myself because I have always been the one to be goby and voice my opinion. I suppose in the beginning he was so quiet and timid and literally did everything for me. What has changed? what if it is all down to me?

So sounds like you've always had an unequal relationship one way or another. Does it matter who's fault it is? It's not working so time to part ways, putting the kids at the centre of your discussions.

WishIwasmumsy · 23/06/2024 12:41

SunTanningToday · 23/06/2024 12:23

Why don’t you both go back to “I love this woman” then discuss how it’s displayed?

I think we both have different opinions of what love is. The resentment started when we had our first baby. He was working until 10pm some nights and I was overwhelmed and getting up in the night every night with our baby. I was so alone and he ended up leaving when she was 6 weeks old and I massively struggled with it. In that time he was going out with friends and enjoying his life whilst I would be at home with out DD, sometimes holding her with tears falling on her head. I found out I was pregnant again when she was 9 months old and I decided to terminate the pregnancy due to the state our relationship was in. This had a massive negative impact on my mental health and when our son was born 2 yeas later I had massive PND issues in relation to the abortion. I had a lot of guilt and went to the Dr to get help. I was then put on antidepressants and massively improved. I just want to add that I did not drink at all for years whilst pregnant/breastfeeding. It has only been recently that I have started reaching out for wine as a way to relax in an evening. I have been questioning this for a while and know it is wrong and I need to do something about it.

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