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Caught Cleaner clipping her Nails in our Bathroom..

269 replies

Naliny · 21/06/2024 13:42

…with my nail clipper.

AIBU to fire her over this?

(Also - have never done an AIBU before and can’t figure out how to do the poll).

OP posts:
RefusingToPlayYourGames · 21/06/2024 15:37

Caravaggiouch · 21/06/2024 14:01

WTF? I’m amazed at these responses, I couldn’t care about this. It’s a nail clipper, she’s not wiping her arse with your toothbrush.

😂😂

BoobyDazzler · 21/06/2024 15:37

This wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow for me, tbh.

Everythingiscalmfornow · 21/06/2024 15:36

Riapia · 21/06/2024 15:31

Are you certain of this?
😉😁😁

Well actually you can't be certain at all. It's an employer/ employee relationship based on trust. She has access to everything in the home that isn't locked up.
If OP has caught her concealing behaviour then it puts a dent in the trust.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 21/06/2024 15:36

Quittingwifework · 21/06/2024 15:30

People are mental. It has nothing to do with thinking a cleaner is “beneath” anyone and I have no idea why people jump to that conclusion.

it has to do with someone - anyone - just going through your cupboards to use an item without asking. If she had indeed needed to use, she should ask. As should a guest etc. I would never just go through someone’s cupboard at their house and use their nail clippers/hair brush or anything else.

her cleaning loos and sinks has absolutely nothing to do with it. That’s something she is employed to do - it’s not something she’s being forced into, it’s her job. And it’s certainly nothing to be ashamed of either so im not sure why people are acting like its some awful job!

I adore my cleaner, she’s absolutely fantastic and I would let her use my nail
clippers, but I would expect her to ask me. Just as I would ask her if I went to her house!

Very sensible view

Riapia · 21/06/2024 15:31

Caravaggiouch · 21/06/2024 14:01

WTF? I’m amazed at these responses, I couldn’t care about this. It’s a nail clipper, she’s not wiping her arse with your toothbrush.

Are you certain of this?
😉😁😁

Quittingwifework · 21/06/2024 15:30

People are mental. It has nothing to do with thinking a cleaner is “beneath” anyone and I have no idea why people jump to that conclusion.

it has to do with someone - anyone - just going through your cupboards to use an item without asking. If she had indeed needed to use, she should ask. As should a guest etc. I would never just go through someone’s cupboard at their house and use their nail clippers/hair brush or anything else.

her cleaning loos and sinks has absolutely nothing to do with it. That’s something she is employed to do - it’s not something she’s being forced into, it’s her job. And it’s certainly nothing to be ashamed of either so im not sure why people are acting like its some awful job!

I adore my cleaner, she’s absolutely fantastic and I would let her use my nail
clippers, but I would expect her to ask me. Just as I would ask her if I went to her house!

MidnightPatrol · 21/06/2024 15:30

It’s a bit weird, but I don’t think I’d get worked up over this given you have a good relationship with her.

Boundaries can become a bit blurred with people who work in your home and with your family, and by the sounds of it she knows she did something stupid.

MsLuxLisbon · 21/06/2024 15:29

I would find that pretty gross, although maybe not an immediately firing offense. It's the sort of thing I would overlook if she's a great cleaner, but wouldn't be so keen on if she isn't, which you say is the case. It depends really on how important the babysitting aspect is, if you care about sparing her feelings you could make up and excuse. Take no notice of the people who say you need to be ok with this, you don't. You can let any employee go for any reason, as long as you aren't rude about it.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 21/06/2024 15:28

I think people just want to shit on the OP.
Why couldn't she have ASKED - and the OP would have said yes/no?

//

This

There is some epic projecting going on by some posters ...

LonginesPrime · 21/06/2024 15:28

The disconcerting thing about this is the fact she deliberately concealed what she was doing with your things and thinks she got away with it.

I'd be wondering what other weird/unsavoury things she's doing with your stuff behind your back, tbh.

astonssandboxisalittertray · 21/06/2024 15:27

There's a hygiene issue with this! When you go to a nail salon clippers need to be cleaned with anti-bac/fungicide. It's not the same as eg: just using some hand soap and moisturiser. It is closer to using your toothbrush.

There is the very obvious boundary overstepping but there also a significant gap in her knowledge/behaviour re: what is hygienic. Is she using the same cloth for door handles as she is for the toilet?!

I think you definitely need to say something. What you say should be guided by what your desired outcome is. Do you want to give her a warning and be clear why it is unacceptable? Or is it best you part company given this? Do you have a contract? Would you pay her in lieu of notice?

CelesteCunningham · 21/06/2024 15:25

mathanxiety · 21/06/2024 15:18

I agree, it's not a big deal.

But all the cleaners I know (a sample of nine women) have neat nails. It's still possible to snag one when changing bedding or handling towels, bathmats, or clothing.

I know. I'm genuinely puzzled why you said "Give people a little credit for intelligence", we appear to be on the same side of this discussion but that implies otherwise. Confused

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 21/06/2024 15:22

Not sure I'd fire her over this however I would be now wondering what else she may be doing that crosses professional boundaries

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/06/2024 15:22

I wouldn’t fire her over this, @Naliny - but if you are worried about using the clippers, you could wash them, then put them in boiling water - that will get rid of any nasties.

CheeriosOrFrosties · 21/06/2024 15:22

pearlsundersea · 21/06/2024 14:54

It is grim. There is also a small risk of passing on a bloodborne virus in "sharing" personal grooming items that have the potential to break skin.

This. Hepatitis C can be transmitted through sharing things like nail clippers where there is a risk of blood being left on the item.

It’s a no no imo.

DragonGypsyDoris · 21/06/2024 15:21

Naliny · 21/06/2024 13:42

…with my nail clipper.

AIBU to fire her over this?

(Also - have never done an AIBU before and can’t figure out how to do the poll).

She has almost certainly used your bush trimmer too. Definitely a hanging offence.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 21/06/2024 15:21

Nail clipping (especially a decent pair of) is actually a very distinct sound especially in an otherwise quiet house

butterpuffed · 21/06/2024 15:20

CeasarS · 21/06/2024 15:15

I've clipped many a broken nail at my desk with paper scissors. No one appeared to find it weird.

I'd love to be at the tribunal for someone who was sacked for clipping their nails in the work loos 🤣

My apologies , I had [maybe wrongly] assumed it was her toenails she was clipping !

mathanxiety · 21/06/2024 15:19

Caravaggiouch · 21/06/2024 14:47

Clearly. We have shared household nail clippers and I don’t view every person I know as dirty, fungal disease vectors at all times. She’s entitled to her boundaries, but when those boundaries involve trusting someone with your children but not your nail clippers, forgive me for looking askance at it.

Yes to this.

Everythingiscalmfornow · 21/06/2024 15:18

CelesteCunningham · 21/06/2024 15:07

The drinks or the nail clippers? But yes, I would be/am fine with either.

This is the woman who is the only adult bar DH and me who goes in our bedroom, she changes our sheets. There's an intimacy involved in the relationship and I think it's best served with relaxed give and take.

I was actually referring to the drinks.
She is actually consuming your coffee and squash. And she has never asked if it is OK? I'm sure she is right in assuming you wouldn't say no but doing it without even the courtesy of asking is really presumptuous in my opinion. I wouldn't go into anyone's house and do that. Even if it was a relative I would ask if they minded.

Tbh it is becoming apparent why some people might be having a problem with the lack of boundaries displayed by their cleaners:
In some households the cleaners appear to be given carte blanche to do exactly what they want. Take and use what they want. So I wonder if they then assume when they go along to their next client it will be OK to do what they want there!

mathanxiety · 21/06/2024 15:18

CelesteCunningham · 21/06/2024 15:05

I don't know what you mean, honestly. I think it's entirely believable that she was cleaning, snagged a nail and realised the rest needed a trim so she took care of that before she snagged any more. I just can't see what the big deal is, at all.

I agree, it's not a big deal.

But all the cleaners I know (a sample of nine women) have neat nails. It's still possible to snag one when changing bedding or handling towels, bathmats, or clothing.

Womanofcustard · 21/06/2024 15:15

Just can’t believe some of the responses here! “Well you just can’t get the staff these days”.
i used to work as a cleaner. Don’t recall ever having to trim my nails while working, but I of course would have done if I’d snagged one.

CeasarS · 21/06/2024 15:15

CelesteCunningham · 21/06/2024 15:12

I've never come across an office where someone would be fired for clipping their nails in the ladies.

I've clipped many a broken nail at my desk with paper scissors. No one appeared to find it weird.

I'd love to be at the tribunal for someone who was sacked for clipping their nails in the work loos 🤣

Wills890 · 21/06/2024 15:14

butterpuffed · 21/06/2024 15:03

What an over reaction 😅

Absolutely not!! Can not think of anything more disgusting. Who would go round to someone's house and do this! Ugh, no. I'd go absolutely nuclear.

nokidshere · 21/06/2024 15:14

heard her clipping nails, it was that very obvious sound! So I went into our bathroom and our nail clipper was nowhere to be found.

See this in itself is weird. If I heard someone in my house clipping their nails my first action would not be to go and look in my bathroom to see if they were mine.