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Caught Cleaner clipping her Nails in our Bathroom..

269 replies

Naliny · 21/06/2024 13:42

…with my nail clipper.

AIBU to fire her over this?

(Also - have never done an AIBU before and can’t figure out how to do the poll).

OP posts:
pearlsundersea · 22/06/2024 01:07

Oh, and the cleaner clearly does have poor hygiene and also poor boundaries to use her employer's nailclippers without seeking permission. She knew it was wrong, hence why she did it surreptitiously.

pearlsundersea · 22/06/2024 01:05

QuestionableMouse · 22/06/2024 00:58

Yes because nail clippers go in the vagina.

The risk of anyone catching a fungal nail infection or hep from nail clippers is tiny. And it's insulting to say that the cleaner has such poor hygiene that they'd have a disease that can be transmitted and still use someone else's nail clippers.

Most people currently living with Hepatitis C have never been tested for it and are unaware they have it. It is common advice if you do have it to not share personal hygiene tools, including toothbrushes, razors, nail files and clippers.

QuestionableMouse · 22/06/2024 00:58

pearlsundersea · 22/06/2024 00:41

How so? I'm sure you'd be happy for your cleaner to borrow your mooncup, though.

Yes because nail clippers go in the vagina.

The risk of anyone catching a fungal nail infection or hep from nail clippers is tiny. And it's insulting to say that the cleaner has such poor hygiene that they'd have a disease that can be transmitted and still use someone else's nail clippers.

Growlybear83 · 22/06/2024 00:53

MissMoneyFairy · 21/06/2024 14:30

Have you asked her if she used your clippers

The OP didn't need to - she was lurking close enough to be able to count the clips .😆😆😆.

I've honestly never heard anything as bonkers as this. I can't believe anyone would seriously consider sacking someone for spending a couple of minutes using their clippers to cut their nails. If I didn't know it was mid June I would be checking to see if it was April Fool's Day.

pearlsundersea · 22/06/2024 00:41

QuestionableMouse · 22/06/2024 00:14

Bit of an over reaction?

How so? I'm sure you'd be happy for your cleaner to borrow your mooncup, though.

QuestionableMouse · 22/06/2024 00:14

pearlsundersea · 22/06/2024 00:03

Having a pee does not run the risk of passing on a fungal nail infection or Hepatitis C, for starters.

Bit of an over reaction?

QuestionableMouse · 22/06/2024 00:13

Hb7x3 · 21/06/2024 13:47

I wouldn't have her back personally. If she's happy doing that she could be doing other things too

Eh, no.

I've occasionally used the nail clippers at work (private housekeeper) when I've broken a nail and need to sort it out ASAP. Doesn't mean I'm doing anything else.

pearlsundersea · 22/06/2024 00:03

Having a pee does not run the risk of passing on a fungal nail infection or Hepatitis C, for starters.

Grammarnut · 21/06/2024 21:03

Newposter180 · 21/06/2024 17:33

You seem very invested in this - are you the cleaner?

I don’t have a cleaner so thankfully this won’t be an issue.

No. But accusing someone of theft when you know nothing about them is a bit off - not to mention utterly prejudiced. My DD has a cleaner. She's a nice woman. She's a person and if she clipped her nails in the bathroom with the nail clipper (fat chance of finding one in DD's bathroom, though) no-one would turn a hair. Going on about this as though it's the end of the world suggests that none of you have any manners. Do you also object if the cleaner needs to have a pee in you lavatory?

olympicsrock · 21/06/2024 20:13

Oversteps the mark. It makes you question her judgement , honestly and what else she does if she thinks this is ok .

astonssandboxisalittertray · 21/06/2024 20:00

On what planet are the people thinking this is ok?! Or equating taking and using nail clippers, (for a sustained time and taken away from the place they are usually kept) with using the loo?! There are clear boundaries in any job within someone's home and this obviously oversteps it.

It's clear there's a group of MNers who disagree with the concept of a cleaner and unless you are treating her like your sister, but with a salary, you're an evil person.

I love my cleaner and she loves us. I respect her hard work, trust her implicitly and forgive small errors. I'm always clear about the stuff she doesn't need to do that day so she doesn't do too much (gets same money even leaving earlier) but she offers to do more when she has time - I've only ever said yes once in 4 years! It's possible to have a good working relationship but still think this is not acceptable (in fact I'll ask her for her thoughts when I see her on Monday).

AInightingale · 21/06/2024 19:44

mathanxiety · 21/06/2024 14:53

This woman cleans your sinks and loos, yet you say "So grim" when your precious nail clipper has touched her fingernails?

Just wow.

This thread is like reading the transcript of a Victoria Wood sketch or Hyacinth Bucket in full flight.

Buttermilky · 21/06/2024 18:55

(How would the cleaner know for sure that YOU don’t have rabies/bubonic plague?!) @RumDo

exactly I was thinking this too. It would just me make me doubt their common sense and judgment in regards to hygiene in general.

I offer my cleaner water or juice but they always decline and just get on with the job and have a quick chat at the end before they’re off. This behaviour of being overly comfortable is just too odd.

I used to be a home tutor for children and I’d never behave like that in anyone’s house.

RumDo · 21/06/2024 17:51

I’m a self employed cleaner. I’m often amazed at some of the antics of cleaners that I hear about on here!
In any normal working day, I am rushing about like a blue arsed fly, to get through my jobs and keep to schedule.
I do a thorough job and always treat my clients’ homes and possessions with the utmost respect.
I don’t help myself to their coffee or scoff their biscuits, spray their perfume or use their clippers. On the odd occasion I’ve needed to use the loo, I’ve asked first and of course, clean it afterwards.
I’ve never used a client’s WiFi code or taken lengthy phone calls while I’m working-there isn’t time!
I just go in, exchange a bit of chat, and crack on.
I’ve kept most of my customers for over 5 years, call many of them friends, and still wouldn’t dream of using their things.
I am aware that I’m in a position of trust.
Most of the domestic cleaners I know are the same.
Using someone else’s nail clippers is 🤮
(How would the cleaner know for sure that YOU don’t have rabies/bubonic plague?!)

Newposter180 · 21/06/2024 17:33

Grammarnut · 21/06/2024 14:41

Charming. Not content with being snobbish you are also accusing someone totally unknown to you of theft. I wouldn't work for you in any capacity, be assured.

Edited

You seem very invested in this - are you the cleaner?

I don’t have a cleaner so thankfully this won’t be an issue.

FrankTheDog · 21/06/2024 17:31

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Crystallizedring · 21/06/2024 17:26

I wouldn't fire her over this but you say she's not very good at cleaning either. So I think you'd be unreasonable to fire her for cutting her nails but you would not be unreasonable to fire her for not being very good at her job.

Aquamarine1029 · 21/06/2024 17:20

mathanxiety · 21/06/2024 17:13

So should the cleaner then refuse to handle bedding, towels, clothes worn and tossed on the floor?

That's up to the cleaner. The cleaner was not given permission to use the op's item for herself. It really doesn't matter what the item is. The fact that it was a personal care item just makes it a bit more squeamish for some people, and I personally feel that anyone with common sense would not help themselves to someone else's nail clippers, especially an employer's.

mathanxiety · 21/06/2024 17:13

Aquamarine1029 · 21/06/2024 16:49

Any item you use on your body for cleaning or grooming purposes is a personal item. It's not debatable.

So should the cleaner then refuse to handle bedding, towels, clothes worn and tossed on the floor?

mathanxiety · 21/06/2024 17:11

Aquamarine1029 · 21/06/2024 17:07

Hand soap and lotion are dispensed out of containers and hand towels are used on clean hands, or at least should be clean hands. Not the same as nail clippers or files at all.

You have no way of knowing if the hands are actually clean.

You have no way of knowing if the cleaner has some condition like molluscum contagiosum or a parasite problem when she sits on the loo, uses the TP, uses the soap, uses the towels.

And unless you are going to stand outside the bathroom when you have reason to believe she's using the loo, you would have no way of knowing if she even washed her hands.

Aquamarine1029 · 21/06/2024 17:07

AmiShitsaline · 21/06/2024 16:57

Hand soap, lotion, hand towel etc are usually shared

Hand soap and lotion are dispensed out of containers and hand towels are used on clean hands, or at least should be clean hands. Not the same as nail clippers or files at all.

AmiShitsaline · 21/06/2024 16:57

Aquamarine1029 · 21/06/2024 16:49

Any item you use on your body for cleaning or grooming purposes is a personal item. It's not debatable.

Hand soap, lotion, hand towel etc are usually shared

Lillieloola · 21/06/2024 16:52

Replying24 · 21/06/2024 14:15

Absolutely you would make someone loose their job which would probably have a big effect on their life over a pair of nail clippers .

Agree with @Replying24 .

cardibach · 21/06/2024 16:50

itsprettyoutside · 21/06/2024 16:45

I wouldn't get upset about this but if you were able to count the clippings, that means she left them behind? Yeeuuukk! Why did she not clean them up?

I think I'd want to find someone new not for the actual clipping but because she left her nails behind. 🤢

She didn’t say that. She could count the sounds, not the actual clippings.

Aquamarine1029 · 21/06/2024 16:49

AmiShitsaline · 21/06/2024 16:32

I wouldn’t class it as personal in the same way that a razor or toothbrush would be

Any item you use on your body for cleaning or grooming purposes is a personal item. It's not debatable.