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dd accidentally accused girls of serious things they never did

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BeWarmOtter · 21/06/2024 12:37

My dd is 15. We are not in the UK so she still has 2 years at her school with her cohort. At the start of the year, she got to know 2 girls in class. As they just got to know each other, dd's bestie told her that she overheard the girls calling her a pick me and was plotting to trick my dd into playing a sex game. My dd dismissed it at first but the bestie kept on telling her it, which made her freak out. The bestie suggested going to the form teacher about it, and dd went with her as she was so scared it might actually happen to her. She didnt know the girls well then.

The form teacher instructed dd not to interact with the girls anymore, but somehow dd felt upset about the instruction and continued to gauge interaction with the girls. She had the feeling that something isnt quite right and she missed the girls but she couldnt dictate what exactly was the issue. After the holidays, in a class my dd was having a little bit of fun with the girls as she had finished her work. That afternoon, her bestie informed her that a friend of the girls sent her text messages about how the girls was saying a bunch of really mean comments about dd. dd was really angry and upset and got passive aggressive with the girls.

The bestie promised to send dd the screenshots as prove but still couldnt send it for a week. The day when dd was literally rushing her to give her the screenshot she suddenly lost access to everything that she could have screenshotted with. When she could finally give dd a screenshot it was very obviously fake.

The girls believed that dd was part of the plot and they dont trust dd anymore. Around the same time dd discovered that the bestie was also making ridiculous things up about her other friends, aiming to isolate her with everyone but the bestie herself.

Dd felt horrible that she falsely accused the girls of the stuff to the form teacher as the girls got into trouble. She wrote them an apology letter but now she feels like its cringe. The girls have been acting weird around her; we are on holidays now and they snap her less often and replaced with surroundings instead of their usual selfie.

I want to give dd insights of how to navigate the situation but I don't have much. Any insights will be appreciated. She misses the girls but she doesnt want to make them feel pressured into anything. She cut ties with the bestie but now she is scared of her as the bestie already made fake screenshots of her badmouthing her good friend, who doesnt know who to believe.

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FavRos · 22/06/2024 11:41

Thank you! The only thing was the bestie was very specific in how she knew (she overheard) and did tell dd a specific sex game and even their specific plan.

What was the sex game? I have no notion what this could be?
Such talk from bestie is a massive 🚩she must have some issues. Have you spoken to bestie's parents about what she did? It's pretty serious. Has the school dealt with bestie? In fact have you spoken to the School and reported that besties misled and made false accusations?

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 11:40

Imnotsu · 22/06/2024 11:33

But is it worth how exhausting analysing the minutiae of this? A fresh start sounds healthier for everyone

Due to being ND changing environments like this might not be beneficial. This will pass fine as ling as dd handle it delicately.

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Imnotsu · 22/06/2024 11:33

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 11:27

It is in dd's best interest to stay at current school academically, and dd wants to stay.

But is it worth how exhausting analysing the minutiae of this? A fresh start sounds healthier for everyone

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 11:27

Imnotsu · 22/06/2024 11:26

Can you just move schools?

It is in dd's best interest to stay at current school academically, and dd wants to stay.

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Imnotsu · 22/06/2024 11:26

Can you just move schools?

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 11:23

FavRos · 22/06/2024 11:16

But what would the teacher do about it? Imagine going to your teacher as a 15 year old and saying my friend told me these girls are going to trick me into xyz. The whole language is quite young, I'd expect this maybe in year 3 or 4, not year 10 or 11. If your dd had told you instead of the teacher (did she tell you about this before speaking with teacher?) you could have advised her to stay away from the group and be vigilant and cautious, not send messages with them, not ever meet-up or be alone with them. You could have also explained that her 'bestie' seems to be saying a lot of gossipy things, creating dramas and to beware of people who cause issues like that. You could explained that besties are not always the best ideas and she should preferably have several good friends, it would have been an opportunity to talk about what she expects in a friendships and that there are gossipy scheming girls to stay well clear of. You could have encouraged her to ask her friend more questions, e.g. how did she know, what was this sex game. You could have asked dd if her and her friends talk about sex and in which way an how she feels about that. Just done a lot more asking and fact finding but not running to your teacher 🙄.

Going to your teacher with allegation on hearsay and gossip is quite something. It's as if your dd already saw herself as a victim. This would alarm me and I'd try to boost her social confidence and skills.

dd accidentally accused girls of serious things they never did

does suggest that she has no agency, it wasn't accidentally she made choice, the choice was very bad. But mostly it was naive. I hope your dd gets the support she needs to wisen up. 'Besties' like you describe are absolute scum though. We all need to teach our dc to be very wise to nasty bullies like bestie.

Thank you! The only thing was the bestie was very specific in how she knew (she overheard) and did tell dd a specific sex game and even their specific plan.

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FavRos · 22/06/2024 11:16

But what would the teacher do about it? Imagine going to your teacher as a 15 year old and saying my friend told me these girls are going to trick me into xyz. The whole language is quite young, I'd expect this maybe in year 3 or 4, not year 10 or 11. If your dd had told you instead of the teacher (did she tell you about this before speaking with teacher?) you could have advised her to stay away from the group and be vigilant and cautious, not send messages with them, not ever meet-up or be alone with them. You could have also explained that her 'bestie' seems to be saying a lot of gossipy things, creating dramas and to beware of people who cause issues like that. You could explained that besties are not always the best ideas and she should preferably have several good friends, it would have been an opportunity to talk about what she expects in a friendships and that there are gossipy scheming girls to stay well clear of. You could have encouraged her to ask her friend more questions, e.g. how did she know, what was this sex game. You could have asked dd if her and her friends talk about sex and in which way an how she feels about that. Just done a lot more asking and fact finding but not running to your teacher 🙄.

Going to your teacher with allegation on hearsay and gossip is quite something. It's as if your dd already saw herself as a victim. This would alarm me and I'd try to boost her social confidence and skills.

dd accidentally accused girls of serious things they never did

does suggest that she has no agency, it wasn't accidentally she made choice, the choice was very bad. But mostly it was naive. I hope your dd gets the support she needs to wisen up. 'Besties' like you describe are absolute scum though. We all need to teach our dc to be very wise to nasty bullies like bestie.

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 11:15

CherryBlossom321 · 22/06/2024 11:01

The sad thing is it needn’t have ever got this far. Her “bestie’s” initial “information sharing” was a huge red flag. There’s lessons here for both of you.

It was definitely but our concern was that it could have been true. There was no way for dd to know for sure.

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CherryBlossom321 · 22/06/2024 11:01

The sad thing is it needn’t have ever got this far. Her “bestie’s” initial “information sharing” was a huge red flag. There’s lessons here for both of you.

gillefc82 · 22/06/2024 10:56

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:29

Sorry for bothering everyone here but dd is asking if she should ask the girls before moving seats as it will affect them? There seems not to be a solution for the seating arrangement problem.

I think she should just walk in, sit down and if they make eye contact / look over just smile and say hi, then just start getting her text books, pencil case etc out of her bag and get ready for the lesson. Don’t make it a big deal. Don’t put any pressure on it. Just keep it lowkey and casual. It’s then up to them how they respond - whether they ignore her, just say hi back or start chatting away to her as if nothing has happened etc, but at least this way the ice is broken and she’s demonstrated she is willing and able to be polite and friendly.

NotSoSimpleHere · 22/06/2024 10:55

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:36

Dd feels like she shouldn't initiate interaction with the girls for a while unless they initiate it as she doesn't want to pressure them into talking to her or anything. The seat is right next to them, not just near them. She would be uncomfortable sitting next to ex-bestie but personally she would like to sit next to the girls, if it wasn't for the above concern.

Sitting next to them is not initiating interaction or putting pressure on them to speak with her. I'm sure there are many situations where you sit next to someone and don't interact with them? This is an option the girls have too. There is no need for anything other than a smile or polite hello.

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:40

FavRos · 22/06/2024 10:34

Sorry, did I miss that your dd is ND? That's a whole different story as this would make her vulnerable.

"Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me" was exactly what she said to the teacher. The teacher couldn't find out the truth so she just had a word with the girls.

This is quite a naive thing to say to a teacher in secondary I think not even in year 5 or 6 would this go down well. If your dd is ND, can you do social stories to help her deal with the complexities of relationships?

At the end of the day, she snitched and really should't have. There are much more clever way to deal with this. As a rule of thumb if a 'friend' tells you that other are saying horrible things about you, it's is probably NOT a friend.

Ditch the concept of bestie, too much expectation attached to this. Friendships should be about, fun and mutual support and respect. If you feel shit around your friends, they're no friends.

Do you mind sharing what the more clever ways would be? At the time dd couldn't be sure whether the allegations were true or not and she didn't want to risk it actually happening. That's why she went to the teacher. It would have been bad if it turned out to be true and she didn't tell the teacher.

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BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:36

NotSoSimpleHere · 22/06/2024 10:33

I think you're making a much bigger thing of this than it needs to be. She could go in, stand by a seat and ask if they mind if she sits there, casually. It really doesn't matter where she sits (other than her own discomfort with either position) because sitting near someone doesn't mean having to interact more than necessary to be polite.

Dd feels like she shouldn't initiate interaction with the girls for a while unless they initiate it as she doesn't want to pressure them into talking to her or anything. The seat is right next to them, not just near them. She would be uncomfortable sitting next to ex-bestie but personally she would like to sit next to the girls, if it wasn't for the above concern.

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coodawoodashooda · 22/06/2024 10:35

NeedToChangeName · 21/06/2024 12:50

My advice to my DC has always been quite straightforward -

(1) hang out with people who make you feel good about yourself

(2) avoid the ones who bring you down

(3) avoid drama

(4) be kind, but not a pushover

(5) this is how adults do friendships

Good luck. I think your DD might be best just avoiding these girls completely and looking for some nicer friends

This is great

FavRos · 22/06/2024 10:34

Sorry, did I miss that your dd is ND? That's a whole different story as this would make her vulnerable.

"Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me" was exactly what she said to the teacher. The teacher couldn't find out the truth so she just had a word with the girls.

This is quite a naive thing to say to a teacher in secondary I think not even in year 5 or 6 would this go down well. If your dd is ND, can you do social stories to help her deal with the complexities of relationships?

At the end of the day, she snitched and really should't have. There are much more clever way to deal with this. As a rule of thumb if a 'friend' tells you that other are saying horrible things about you, it's is probably NOT a friend.

Ditch the concept of bestie, too much expectation attached to this. Friendships should be about, fun and mutual support and respect. If you feel shit around your friends, they're no friends.

NotSoSimpleHere · 22/06/2024 10:33

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:29

Sorry for bothering everyone here but dd is asking if she should ask the girls before moving seats as it will affect them? There seems not to be a solution for the seating arrangement problem.

I think you're making a much bigger thing of this than it needs to be. She could go in, stand by a seat and ask if they mind if she sits there, casually. It really doesn't matter where she sits (other than her own discomfort with either position) because sitting near someone doesn't mean having to interact more than necessary to be polite.

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 10:29

Sorry for bothering everyone here but dd is asking if she should ask the girls before moving seats as it will affect them? There seems not to be a solution for the seating arrangement problem.

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Imnotsu · 22/06/2024 09:48

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:29

Sorry if Im causing discomfort I am just using dd's language to describe the situation to prevent miscommunicating anything here

We would understand what a best friend is, it's not some secret code 😁

It's stopping me being able to post sensible advice reading 'bestie' 5 times within a 6 line post. Obviously you can write whatever you choose.... But I'm glad I'm not the only one driven insane by it haha

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:45

diddl · 22/06/2024 09:38

Don't get me wrong I am not involved with the at the school or in the situation I am just looking for better advice to offer to my dd!

I think if she sits next to one of the girls that's fine.

Plenty of people manage to get along with/be polite to/work with others that they aren't friends with nor want to be.

It's certainly part of 2ndry school.

Was she asking you for advice about the situation at the time?

At the time she wasn't asking for advice much but now she is

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BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:44

Bristolnewcomer · 22/06/2024 09:38

I think also OP it is important to be clear that contrary to your title she didn’t “accidentally” accuse the girls. She was peer pressured and lied to, which I understand that if she is autistic for example it might be harder for her as she may find it tricky to tell when people are lying, but she made the choice to report them based on hearsay. Probably she did this because she was scared? However it wasn’t an accident, it was a decision. Her ex bestie sounds like a piece of work however she will need to find an appropriate way to deal with arseholes (don’t we all), for example if something similar happened again she could speak to a trusted parent or teacher reporting what she knows rather than what she’s been told. In this case it would be “Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me.” It’s then the job of the parents/teacher to help her think out whether this is the case And try to resolve the whole thing without letting it get out of control.

"Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me" was exactly what she said to the teacher. The teacher couldn't find out the truth so she just had a word with the girls.

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diddl · 22/06/2024 09:38

Don't get me wrong I am not involved with the at the school or in the situation I am just looking for better advice to offer to my dd!

I think if she sits next to one of the girls that's fine.

Plenty of people manage to get along with/be polite to/work with others that they aren't friends with nor want to be.

It's certainly part of 2ndry school.

Was she asking you for advice about the situation at the time?

Bristolnewcomer · 22/06/2024 09:38

I think also OP it is important to be clear that contrary to your title she didn’t “accidentally” accuse the girls. She was peer pressured and lied to, which I understand that if she is autistic for example it might be harder for her as she may find it tricky to tell when people are lying, but she made the choice to report them based on hearsay. Probably she did this because she was scared? However it wasn’t an accident, it was a decision. Her ex bestie sounds like a piece of work however she will need to find an appropriate way to deal with arseholes (don’t we all), for example if something similar happened again she could speak to a trusted parent or teacher reporting what she knows rather than what she’s been told. In this case it would be “Best friend has been telling me these girls plan to trick me.” It’s then the job of the parents/teacher to help her think out whether this is the case And try to resolve the whole thing without letting it get out of control.

BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:29

willWillSmithsmith · 22/06/2024 08:52

I don’t ever want to hear or read the word ‘bestie’ again 😁

Sorry if Im causing discomfort I am just using dd's language to describe the situation to prevent miscommunicating anything here

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BeWarmOtter · 22/06/2024 09:19

VickyEadieofThigh · 22/06/2024 09:17

Indeed. And when parents get involved it usually makes even more work for teachers.

Don't get me wrong I am not involved with the at the school or in the situation I am just looking for better advice to offer to my dd!

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VickyEadieofThigh · 22/06/2024 09:17

Shortfatsuit · 21/06/2024 13:49

I do feel terribly sorry for teachers having to deal with this sort of nonsense. Must be very wearing!

Indeed. And when parents get involved it usually makes even more work for teachers.

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