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to wonder if a high ponytail sends a message I'm unaware of?

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AuntieWithAttitude · 21/06/2024 12:19

I was watching a friend's kid after school and told her about a summer camp where I used to work. We often helped the kids put their hair in 'camper buns'—a messy bun right on top of their heads. She asked me to do it for her, but didn't like it, so we ended up with a super high ponytail instead. She loved it and had fun swishing it around.

When her mum saw it, she commented on how high it was and then lowered it.
I didn't really think too much of it, until today on TV a character wore a high ponytail, and other characters remarked on how high it was, saying things like 'erm, are you sure you want to wear your hair like that?'.

Am I missing something about the significance of high ponytails? I can be bad at this stuff, subtle cues and such, I'm wondering if I've caused offence to my friend somehow. She seemed really weird about it. Don't want to make the same mistake again if I've misunderstood the significance of something.

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ChristmasFluff · 22/06/2024 05:59

A high ponytail has been one of my summer goth looks since the 1980s. So much for a certain type of MNer to judge!

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 22/06/2024 05:02

What? I'm obviously not most people on this site. Don't speak for me please

Eh? I was replying to @MsLuxLisbon...

Opinionwontchangeluv · 22/06/2024 01:11

Lameee it means nothing

Calliopespa · 22/06/2024 00:56

SocksAndTheCity · 21/06/2024 17:24

I had no idea about any of this, although the news that there's yet another way to judge women by the minutiae of their appearance is never going to be a shock.

I'm entertained by the idea that stupid people will believe I'm chopping and changing between classes, income brackets and backgrounds multiple times a day for no reason other than how I've most recently tied up my hair 😁

I don’t think a ponytail can make you chav. It’s more that if you are you will be more likely to gravitate to certain styles.

Ultimately it’s no big deal. It’s not like life values or anything . You can take it out and redo it at the drop of a 🎩 ( or shall we say slight drop of a ponytail …?)

Calliopespa · 22/06/2024 00:52

SergeantDawkins · 21/06/2024 21:59

Only read the first and last page but has anyone mentioned the fact that Ariana Grande made high ponytails cool/ non-chav look a while back.

Isn’t her style a little bit chav?

I think maybe what’s coming through is we all have different images of chav.

FarmGirl78 · 21/06/2024 22:52

kitsuneghost · 21/06/2024 12:24

It has always been a very popular style with girls from the rougher end of town.
Alongside fake eyelashes and fake tan.
I would never mess with a girl with a high ponytail.

And big gold hoop earrings? Aka "shoplifter earrings".

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 21/06/2024 22:24

Sandy in Grease had a lovely high ponytail when she was a cheerleader. She's fairly classy, or at least innocent.

Funkyfizz · 21/06/2024 22:20

wellington77 · 21/06/2024 21:56

I associate it with Chavs wearing sports wear

I'd associate your comment with being a bit of a twat.

Funkyfizz · 21/06/2024 22:19

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 21/06/2024 21:16

Excuse me, who are you to speak for 'most people on this site'? I'm not a fan of the look you describe myself, but I'd rather be 'common' than snobby.

What? I'm obviously not most people on this site. Don't speak for me please.

SergeantDawkins · 21/06/2024 21:59

Only read the first and last page but has anyone mentioned the fact that Ariana Grande made high ponytails cool/ non-chav look a while back.

wellington77 · 21/06/2024 21:56

I associate it with Chavs wearing sports wear

pizzaHeart · 21/06/2024 21:36

I’m not from UK originally so don’t have the same cultural experience about ponytails. However when she was younger my DD used to like a ponytail to be in certain place otherwise it was tickling her neck.
Also it could be that your friend thought that its inappropriate for you to do her DD’s hair. I’m not saying she was right but some people don’t like it ( e.g me)

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 21/06/2024 21:16

MsLuxLisbon · 21/06/2024 15:27

Well, you live and learn! There is nothing 'stuck in the fifties' about not like Croydon facelifts. They go along with big hoop earrings and tracksuits, it isn't a look most people on this site would want to go for.

Excuse me, who are you to speak for 'most people on this site'? I'm not a fan of the look you describe myself, but I'd rather be 'common' than snobby.

Funkyfizz · 21/06/2024 20:48

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 21/06/2024 17:35

How on earth can you swish a ponytail in a provocative way? Do horses do it for you or something? Envy<- queasy, not envy.

Are people really so dim and shallow as to find some sort of 'code' in something as innocuous as hairstyles and use it to heap more judgement on women? Always on women, by women... 'sisterhood', yay! No wonder the patriarchy are laughing at us as a sex. Pathetic.

MN seems to be full of the terminally dim these days.

MsLuxLisbon · 21/06/2024 20:44

EmeraldsAreForever · 21/06/2024 19:03

Misogny✔️
Classism ✔️
Ageism ✔️

The photo choices above are interesting, I feel we are on the verge of racism too..

How so? Ashley Graham is white.* I am half black. Look, the OP asked a question, asking people to explain why this other mother wouldn't want her daughter's hair in a high pony, and some posters explained. We can't help the fact that some of you don't like that explanation. Of course, we might be wrong and the other mother just thinks that the high pony is bad for hair (which it is!) However, chances are that it is for class reasons. That is the way of the world.

*This reminds me of when people accuse people of racism who don't like the Kardashians, when in fact if anyone is racist it is the Kardashians for their constant blackfishing.

EmeraldsAreForever · 21/06/2024 19:03

Misogny✔️
Classism ✔️
Ageism ✔️

The photo choices above are interesting, I feel we are on the verge of racism too..

Calliopespa · 21/06/2024 18:44

Tomatina · 21/06/2024 18:37

Kim Wexler's ponytail (as worn by Rhea Seehorn in Better Call Saul) was a great ponytail, high and elegant. So much for the snobs!
Agree with your second paragraph too.

It wasn’t a high one though. It was still back of head.

Tomatina · 21/06/2024 18:37

EmeraldsAreForever · 21/06/2024 14:14

There was a poster on here with the user name "Kim Wexler's ponytail" which I always loved (username and ponytail!)

Other than that, what a fucking depressing thread this is as a demonstration of misogyny. Either as a reflection of society, or worse, actively demonstrated by posters themselves.

Kim Wexler's ponytail (as worn by Rhea Seehorn in Better Call Saul) was a great ponytail, high and elegant. So much for the snobs!
Agree with your second paragraph too.

RamonaRamirez · 21/06/2024 18:24

And what is wrong with giant hoops?ConfusedGrinBlush

I often wear my hair in a high bun or ponytail and I have a weak spot for giant gold hoops

I have absolutely no fear of looking "common" as I am not British born but an immigrant...and therefore exempt from your class system Wink

Floorbard · 21/06/2024 18:13

MsLuxLisbon · 21/06/2024 15:27

Well, you live and learn! There is nothing 'stuck in the fifties' about not like Croydon facelifts. They go along with big hoop earrings and tracksuits, it isn't a look most people on this site would want to go for.

What a weird way to live. I don’t have the energy to be so judgmental, personally!

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 21/06/2024 18:09

Coulddowithanap · 21/06/2024 17:59

Hoping I'm not sending signals with my hair.. often wear mine in a high ponytail so it's out the way!

I wouldn't worry, it only sends out a bat signal to the thick-witted...

The rest wouldn't give it a thought.

Coulddowithanap · 21/06/2024 17:59

Hoping I'm not sending signals with my hair.. often wear mine in a high ponytail so it's out the way!

TulipTuesday · 21/06/2024 17:51

I was never allowed a high (top of head) pony tail when I was young. My mum deemed it ‘common’

Except for the time I won tickets to a NKOTB concert and she did me the highest pony ever as a treat 😄

Twototwo15 · 21/06/2024 17:46

I don’t know about signals from pony tails on top of the head, but the topic brings back memories of the “Peru two” as one of them favoured a top of head bun which was quite a look.

CyanideShake · 21/06/2024 17:37

ItsVeryHyacinthBucket · 21/06/2024 15:38

High ponytails piss me off, I hate it when people walk/run swinging their ponytail side to side, it looks so pretentious. It’s always a princessy, up their own arse person who does this.

Other than that they signify:
slapped back and greasy: Croydon facelift
messy bun: rough as fuck
scraped back with tidy bun: girl who thinks she’s a pretty ballerina type, generally a wanker
fashion pack type (also a wanker)

you're a grade A weirdo.