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Is there a polite way to never go to team socials?

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Cindyhadayellowcar · 21/06/2024 11:04

I work in a team of 5. I like them. Fine people to work with. I transferred to the team about six months ago, and have known my colleagues for about 5 years.

They all want to go out for a team meal. To be clear - not paid for by the company - just us lot going out for a jolly. Bit of team bonding etc.

I don't want to go. Not to this one, or to any team meal or jolly, ever.

I have been on one before, a few years ago when I was in a different team but working closely with a couple of people in this team - so I can't say I never go out. Plus, just from chatting at work they know I do have friends and socialise.

What I want is a perfectly polite and reasonable reason why I can't ever go out on team socials. An excuse why I can't make this one won't work because they'll either reschedule it or I'll have the same issue at the next one.

Shall I just pretend to go along with it and then be unwell on the night?

Or is it actually professionally necessary to occasionally grin and bear these things?

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NeverNap · 22/06/2024 05:37

MoneyTeresa · 22/06/2024 05:27

As I soon as I read this OP, I wanted to ask if you thought you might be neurodivergent! I just saw your update.

Don’t go. You’ll be giving up energy that you don’t have, to people who will have no idea what it has actually taken from you, just because you are worried about being liked.

You don’t deserve to be put through that, and if your colleagues had any idea about it would feel like for you then, if they are decent people, I am sure that they wouldn’t want you to go through it either.

Look at all the posters asking why you don’t want to go though! Because neurotypical people are seeing the whole world through their lens. If you were in an office full of autistic people then you wouldn’t have to put up with any of this nonsense: you could just do your work and go home.

I once worked somewhere where it was expected that I would go rock climbing with colleagues at weekends 😂 and hang around in a canteen area and socialise with them at lunchtime. Insane.

Look at all the posters asking why you don’t want to go though

It is easier to help someone make an excuse if you know their reason for not wanting to go. That was a long time coming from the OP.

MoneyTeresa · 22/06/2024 05:27

As I soon as I read this OP, I wanted to ask if you thought you might be neurodivergent! I just saw your update.

Don’t go. You’ll be giving up energy that you don’t have, to people who will have no idea what it has actually taken from you, just because you are worried about being liked.

You don’t deserve to be put through that, and if your colleagues had any idea about it would feel like for you then, if they are decent people, I am sure that they wouldn’t want you to go through it either.

Look at all the posters asking why you don’t want to go though! Because neurotypical people are seeing the whole world through their lens. If you were in an office full of autistic people then you wouldn’t have to put up with any of this nonsense: you could just do your work and go home.

I once worked somewhere where it was expected that I would go rock climbing with colleagues at weekends 😂 and hang around in a canteen area and socialise with them at lunchtime. Insane.

WoollyRosebud · 22/06/2024 05:07

For me it would depend how far you had to travel home after the team event. I used to commute into central London with a 90 minute journey each way. Factor that into an evening out plus the perils of public transport late at night, possibly a taxi as well if really late at night. I very rarely attended after hours events and as far as I know people understood and didn’t mind. When I did go along I did enjoy myself however.

HollyBerri · 22/06/2024 04:24

Looking at it a different way if they socialise anyway this might be a special effort to include you. I think you need to go too. I think you did its a small team. Try and relax.

LondonQueen · 22/06/2024 00:16

I blame my children. I don't care to spend time with the wider team outside of work. There's a select few I'd rather see privately.

ilovesooty · 21/06/2024 23:59

I hope you don't find it too exhausting. Hopefully the fact that you do at least like them will help a bit.

Cindyhadayellowcar · 21/06/2024 23:47

RichardsGear · 21/06/2024 23:33

Why are you so dramatically opposed to having the odd night out with them?

Lots of reasons.

  • I won't enjoy it.
  • I barely have enough time to catch up with friends I do want to see - to spend an evening with colleagues seems a waste (though I now agree it's not a waste - it's about showing willing and being a team player).
  • I'm not wealthy and it's money I'd rather not spend.
  • I'm neurodivergent and it takes a huge amount of effort to remember how to be a pleasant, social person for a whole evening. I can do it - but I'm doing it all on manual and it's exhausting. Eye contact. Not too much eye contact. Words to affirm the person's story. Now join in and add an anecdote. Don't talk too much. Only say appropriate things. Make sure that you never actually say anything, just do words that are pleasant. And do it in a noisy restaurant where everyone is talking at once and I can't eat most of the menu.
  • I sometimes get the above wrong and then I've put all that effort in and they still think I'm a weirdo and then I have to shame spiral about the thing I said wrong. (Working on this).
  • I can't drink at social things because it lets my guard down, and I'd rather stay home on a saturday night and have a glass of wine with my cat and relax.
  • No matter how hard I try I'll always be a bit 'other' and I know they socalise without me anyway, and I genuinely understand why they do. I'm not one of the gang and however nice I am, and however nice they are - I don't and can't fit in. I'm acutely aware of this and these work socials are painful. However - all that said I can see that the judgement is that I have to go anyway once in a while. Fair enough. Have taken this on board and will go.
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WildFlowerBees · 21/06/2024 23:38

Just tell them that you really enjoy working with them but team nights aren't your thing and you hope they all have a great time. Why anyone would be offended is beyond me, not everyone wants to bond with their colleagues outside of work nor should you be expected to. If you're friendly in work I can't see it being an issue.

Cindyhadayellowcar · 21/06/2024 23:36

Thepeopleversuswork · 21/06/2024 13:16

I do understand that work socials can be draining and a bit of a pain in the arse.

But I also think saying you never want to go to any ever under any circumstances is a bit precious. I also think the benefit of just swallowing it and going to one with good grace (even if just for an hour or so) will far exceed your satisfaction at having got out of it. You will generate goodwill which will really help you.

The reality is that work has a social component and every now and then you have to show willing. Just basic courtesy.

Its one thing to not like them: a lot of us don’t like them. But insisting you are so special you should never be expected to go sends a signal to them that you think you deserve special treatment. It’s not worth it.

You don’t have the go every time. One out of every five or six will go a long way.

This is sensible. I'll stick on a smile and go to the meal.

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RichardsGear · 21/06/2024 23:33

Why are you so dramatically opposed to having the odd night out with them?

Diversion · 21/06/2024 23:30

"Not my thing but I hope that you have a great time"

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 21/06/2024 23:28

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 21/06/2024 19:24

Why not just go out with them?

or not

MuchasSmoochas · 21/06/2024 19:38

I know 2 people at work who don’t “do” social events and it’s completely fine, we joke about it. Don’t lie or make excuses, simply say thanks but not for me and leave it there. Let them speculate, who cares as long as you are decent at work.

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 21/06/2024 19:24

Why not just go out with them?

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 21/06/2024 19:23

Dont go as it often edns in tears
i was branded "anti-social for not going out on after work, the whole team events - could I give a flying f - well it hurt initially but I had my 2/3 close buddies - and guess what, even they stopped going as too much 2bitiching going on" and people fell out, ie those that could not handle their drink!!

You are good staying out of that!!

SomethingFun · 21/06/2024 19:19

We get a budget for socials and it’s like pulling teeth to get people to come out for a free lunch during working hours never mind doing something in the evening for an hour (escape room type stuff). Beyond tedious. Because the budget is for team stuff it makes it really hard to justify spending it when a couple of individuals will not come and do anything anyone suggests. I can’t say they add anything to the socials other than their presence but still they are part of the team. I’m sure you’re lovely op but if there is someone like me on your team that just wants to use the money we have on a nice lunch maybe just grit your teeth and come with us 😁

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 21/06/2024 18:54

I'm so glad I don't work where half the people on mumsnet work, it would be a very dull working environment.

Team bonding helps teams work together, it adds cohesion. It helps people get to know who they're working with on a more personal level. I have a great relationship with my colleagues, because we've got to know each other when we aren't sat trying to work.

I've worked in places where no one did anything together, I've worked in places where people do stuff together. I know which I prefer and which is a nicer place to work, and which has better team cohesion.

tigger1001 · 21/06/2024 18:02

Beowulfa · 21/06/2024 15:12

Team lunches are reasonable. Evening meals are not. My free time is extremely valuable to me.

WTF is team bonding, anyway? I don't need it to do my job properly. Why can't people just do their fucking jobs?

I agree. If it's seen to be that important that people have to socialise- events should be done in working time.

Work shouldn't monopolise free time. And people shouldn't be disadvantaged at work just because they don't socialise out with work

PancakeClock · 21/06/2024 17:27

I like my colleagues and enjoy socialising with them sometimes. I would extend the invite wide enough so not to exclude people, but would hate to think someone was having this dilemma of not wanting to go but feeling like they should.

Why should we not accept someone politely declining invitations, just because we work with them?

OP I honestly wouldn't think any less of you but it's evident that there are people who might, so you do have a decision to make regarding how you want to handle this. Is there someone you're closer to in the team that you could have a quiet word with and try to gauge what the feelings towards you not going on team socials would be?

Sunset6 · 21/06/2024 16:23

Say that money’s tight at the moment and you are trying not to eat out/spend it on drinks

Skyrainlight · 21/06/2024 16:17

TimeForMyMonthlyNameChange · 21/06/2024 11:09

‘I’ve got a lot going on so it’s hard for me to pinpoint a date. You all choose the best date for you and if I can make it I’ll come along’.

I also like this idea.

Beowulfa · 21/06/2024 15:12

Team lunches are reasonable. Evening meals are not. My free time is extremely valuable to me.

WTF is team bonding, anyway? I don't need it to do my job properly. Why can't people just do their fucking jobs?

Smoothiesaresoups · 21/06/2024 14:26

Let them pick a date and then say you can't make it because you have other plans.

For the posters talking about the social component of work - that's for during work hours like a team lunch or events hosted by the workplace imo. If it was the companies Christmas do, then it could be antisocial to not go as it's only once a year and (hopefully) provided by the company. A team having several social meetups throughout the year is just unnecessary. It's hard enough amongst working full time to schedule in days that work to see actual friends and family, who actually wants to spend time out of work with people you already spend the majority of your life with anyway.

MavisPennies · 21/06/2024 14:25

Why don't you want to go?

WildfirePonie · 21/06/2024 14:21

Can you say that as much as you like them and enjoy working together, you'd prefer not to mix business with pleasure.

I wouldn't want to go either, and with this reason you never need a new excuse.