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Boyfriend wants me to put his car under my car insurance

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CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 04:52

Sorry for the log post. First for the backstory I have been dating this he's really nice, kind, affectionate, not stingy etc. He has expressed a desire to to marry me. He is divorced with 3 kids.

The issue is that when we met he told me about his bad credit. I wasn't really sure why but he had some debt, so hasn't been able to get a mortgage but he is self employed (contractor) earns comfortably so he's been trying to pay it off.

The issue now is recently he's found it hard to pay his bills. He works hard but the contacts have not been as consistent and many don't pay as well as before. He's just told me he can't pay his car insurance which was really high and he can't pay his rent and he pays the rent of his ex wife ) (in full) who the children live with and he has a child in a fee private school school fees is around 7k. He never discussed his choice to put his child in private school with me he just told me after the fact and that's a big part of my he has large outgoings. He's now finding it hard to pay that also.

The insurance company have cancelled his insurance for not paying and he really needs his car to drive to work which can be very far away sometimes.

i want to help him I suggested speaking to citizens advice etc but he's suggested I put his car under my name so he can continue to drive it. He has about 12 points on his licence (speeding) and is at risk of losing his licence which he's going to court for to appeal.

I feel bad for him but what would you wise ladies do in this situation. A I being unreasonable to say no. I'm a single mum btw.

OP posts:
MmedeGouge · 21/06/2024 08:51

The more information you share the worse he sounds.
He really could drag you down with him if you do not become more wary.
I would walk away whilst I still could, if I were you.

TheTartfulLodger · 21/06/2024 08:51

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:47

Yes I have said no, a few weeks back he asked me to take a loan so he could sort out some things and he would be servicing it. I said NO! 😊

Jesus Christ! He's asking you to take out loans for him too? Why are you even with this man??

Notacrab · 21/06/2024 08:51

Don't do it.
Don't get pregnant.
Don't move him in.
Don't marry him.

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:50

TheTartfulLodger · 21/06/2024 08:46

I still don't understand what his plan is with the education. Who's choice was that? What about the other 2 children? If he can't afford his own rent and insurance how will he pay private fees for his other 2 children? Clearly his spending is not sustainable. I've honestly never heard of anyone so financially enmeshed with an ex. Even a court wouldn't expect this much financial involvement.He can't be paying maintenance if he's paying all this other non essential stuff. It's bizarre how he continues making further financial commitments to his ex without OPs knowledge, then expects her to subsidise him because he can't afford his ex wifes lavish lifestyle.

Edited

I mentioned that his ex didn't even know about him applying to the private school for the son but I guess she just accepted it since she wasn't the one paying. I don't think he plans to send the others to private school. He said he did it cos he passed 11+ but wasn't offered a place due to catchment.

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stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 21/06/2024 08:48

LOL

No

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:47

TomatoSandwiches · 21/06/2024 08:45

Have you ever said no to his requests op?

Yes I have said no, a few weeks back he asked me to take a loan so he could sort out some things and he would be servicing it. I said NO! 😊

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viques · 21/06/2024 08:47

Forget the debts, points on licence, cancelled car tax, three kids ex wife baggage this person drags behind him to your door. The most important sentence in your post is the last one.

You are a single parent.

So sit yourself down for a minute and think about who is the most important person in your life, who do you need to be protecting, who should come first in every decision you make.

There, that wasn’t hard was it?

TheTartfulLodger · 21/06/2024 08:46

I still don't understand what his plan is with the education. Who's choice was that? What about the other 2 children? If he can't afford his own rent and insurance how will he pay private fees for his other 2 children? Clearly his spending is not sustainable. I've honestly never heard of anyone so financially enmeshed with an ex. Even a court wouldn't expect this much financial involvement.He can't be paying maintenance if he's paying all this other non essential stuff. It's bizarre how he continues making further financial commitments to his ex without OPs knowledge, then expects her to subsidise him because he can't afford his ex wifes lavish lifestyle.

TomatoSandwiches · 21/06/2024 08:45

Have you ever said no to his requests op?

Feelsodrained · 21/06/2024 08:44

Also did you say to him “ah well you will have to stop with the private school”? Because that is absolutely what he needs to do if he can’t pay his car insurance ffs. The fucking cheek of him, forking out for a fancy school he can’t afford and then asking you to sub his insurance for him. No kid needs to be in private school. So what if his DS is bright? So are loads of other kids in the state sector. Doesn’t mean they are super special and can’t attend a normal school (with the thick plebs).

DaffydownClock · 21/06/2024 08:40

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 05:55

His redeeming qualities? He's a very devoted father. Very affectionate and loving 🙈 helps out around the house when he comes over. Great sense of humour, doesn't cheat. He's generous as well (I know what you're thinking)

And he wants you to be generous towards him with your money now?
Uggh. He sounds like he’s worming his way into using you as a money bank.
Run.

BingoNight · 21/06/2024 08:37

Some really wise posts given to you here Op, from years of experience.
He may seem a nice guy but he's not if he's asked you to lend him money and to commit fraud for him!
Are you a rescuer type?
Do you feel good helping others but by doing so put yourself at a disadvantage?
You're posting for advice, please listen to your instinct and don't be a mother to this man, any respect you have for him will wear away.

Feelsodrained · 21/06/2024 08:37

How long have you been together?
How long will he be paying his ex’s rent for?
Anyone with 12 points about to be banned for totting up is really stupid and reckless. Does he realise that chances are he will be banned? They might take pity on him but it has to be exceptional.
Anyone who puts their child in private school when they cannot comfortably afford it is also stupid and reckless. He will need to put his son back in state school - maybe spend some of the savings on a tutor. Also what sort of parent sends only one child out of three private?
Anyone who asks their partner to take over the insurance on their car is a bit of a user.
He needs to come to an arrangement with the ex about the rent because he can’t be paying for her property and one of his own long term.

He needs a wake up call. It will probably come with the impending driving ban.

haveatye · 21/06/2024 08:36

His life is a mess and he wants to drag you into it so your life is one as well.

Ok divorce is hard and business can be hard. But why the fuck has he run up so many points on his licence? We all might nod over the speed limit now and then, but 12 points is way beyond that.

He's a bad driver (who is not permitted to drive) and wants you to insure him. Why would you do that?

rainfordays · 21/06/2024 08:35

So what is he doing to actually take responsibility for his own financial problems? Because it sounds like he;'s expecting you to pick up the pieces. If he cannot afford to put a child through private school, that has to go. If he cannot afford to pay full rent for his house AND the house where his ex and children live, that has to be reduced somehow. Either way, if you allow him to bury his head in the sand by bailing him out, you're not helping him in any way. Plus you're only going to get more and more requests like it as time goes on, because this situation doesn't look like it's going to get any better.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 21/06/2024 08:33

Please just end this.

Put your own child first-he is! He makes poor financial decisions without discussing them or their impact with you. He doesn’t respect your thoughts.

get some counselling and sort your self esteem out-work out why you think that this guy is a prince, when he is a pauper. Of course he’s nice to you-he wants you to subsidise his lifestyle choices. Get out before he really fucks you, your finances and your child over.

Crinkle77 · 21/06/2024 08:31

I'd also be suspicious about whether he is really paying his ex's housing costs. Could well be a story to excuse why he is short of cash.

NasiDagang · 21/06/2024 08:30

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:13

He chose to pay the rent as a way of helping and supporting the kids since that's where they live. I've always thought they should split it but I just kept my nose out of it and out of their drama as a whole cos there's loads of it despite all he does for the kids.

Prioritise your own child! Why should you fund his kid's private education? Such a bizarre concept.

skyeisthelimit · 21/06/2024 08:27

I think you have already got the message but I will add my vote just in case... Do not do this. Do not lend him any more money. Do not let him move in.

He is living a life he can't afford. He is reckless with his driving. That means he shows no consideration for other road users.

He shows no consideration for you either by putting you in a position where you feel that you can't say no to him.

Clearinguptheclutter · 21/06/2024 08:25

What everyone else said i.e. no

i’d help someone out (in a legal fashion that would not affect me otherwise) if they had genuinely had rotten luck and needed a few £ to get back on the feet
but this guy’s troubles are 100% of his own making
dont help him out and even more so don’t marry him!

Baconking · 21/06/2024 08:22

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:13

He chose to pay the rent as a way of helping and supporting the kids since that's where they live. I've always thought they should split it but I just kept my nose out of it and out of their drama as a whole cos there's loads of it despite all he does for the kids.

Despite what he tells you he does for his kids.

You only hear one side of the story...

TheTartfulLodger · 21/06/2024 08:22

He is so financially enmeshed with his ex that he shouldn't be getting involved with other women full stop. You won't see it now but the reason people are telling you to run is because they can all see where this is going. He will either leave you or you will finish with him but either way you will be saddled with a financial mess.

NotAgainWilson · 21/06/2024 08:20

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 05:46

Thanks for all your replies, he's never gambled though. I must say I could see the red flags and didn't want to say I told you so when all this happened, cos that would just be kicking someone when their down. I must say that I have lent him money in the past and he always pays back. I just felt that he could see how I managed my finances even though I earn way less and learn from it.

All along, his financial decisions worried me a lot that's one of the reasons I have not committed any further.

Honestly, this a proper deal breaker and a perfect example of why he is struggling: He is useless at making financial decisions and he wants you to help, which is what couples do, but actually what he is asking you to support him, his ex wife and his DC to keep living above their means so he can continue to be as irresponsible as he is, which is fine if you are generous and do want to ruin your future credit checks and your finances by linking your finances to him by sharing a financial product.

One thing to note is that he is not struggling to pay just for the insurance, he is just disclosing this issue to you because he needs to get it sorted ASAP, but there would be hundreds of other issues you are not aware of. Believe me, if he cannot pay a car insurance he is already scrapping the barrel, he is not the wealthy man you think, he is just a man in a huge amount of debt spending more pretending not to be.

Personally, I would run a mile NOW as you will find it more difficult and costly to leave in the long run. If he cannot see how he is spending his money, he wouldn’t notice either how much you will be subsidising him: it may not be much but if he is spending a lot of time in your house, dropping by for dinner AND he is not contributing to your increased household expenses AND you often go “halves” OR offer to pay for some stuff as it is not a big deal… you are already spending hundreds of pounds a month on him.

Your man may be all the nice things you say he is, he might have a heart of gold that doesn’t allow him to stop spending money on things he can’t afford, but whatever the reasons, this is not going to change and will potentially reduce any opportunities you and any future children will have as you will spend most of your life plugging holes in his finances and getting not much out of it.

Iaskedyouthrice · 21/06/2024 08:20

He has his eyes on your financial security, he will up the game until you are subsidising him, his ex and child so he can continue to pay their rent and the school fees.
You are a mother, concentrate on your child and their welfare. No to the car insurance and no more loans. You read it on here all the time from women who are with men like this, they always pay the money back at first. Then they stop and ask for more and more.

MmedeGouge · 21/06/2024 08:19

As regards to lending money to risky people :- In my experience they will ask to borrow small sums and always pay you back.
Once they have your confidence they ask for a much larger loan. They won’t be intending to pay this back.
Be very careful.

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