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Boyfriend wants me to put his car under my car insurance

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CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 04:52

Sorry for the log post. First for the backstory I have been dating this he's really nice, kind, affectionate, not stingy etc. He has expressed a desire to to marry me. He is divorced with 3 kids.

The issue is that when we met he told me about his bad credit. I wasn't really sure why but he had some debt, so hasn't been able to get a mortgage but he is self employed (contractor) earns comfortably so he's been trying to pay it off.

The issue now is recently he's found it hard to pay his bills. He works hard but the contacts have not been as consistent and many don't pay as well as before. He's just told me he can't pay his car insurance which was really high and he can't pay his rent and he pays the rent of his ex wife ) (in full) who the children live with and he has a child in a fee private school school fees is around 7k. He never discussed his choice to put his child in private school with me he just told me after the fact and that's a big part of my he has large outgoings. He's now finding it hard to pay that also.

The insurance company have cancelled his insurance for not paying and he really needs his car to drive to work which can be very far away sometimes.

i want to help him I suggested speaking to citizens advice etc but he's suggested I put his car under my name so he can continue to drive it. He has about 12 points on his licence (speeding) and is at risk of losing his licence which he's going to court for to appeal.

I feel bad for him but what would you wise ladies do in this situation. A I being unreasonable to say no. I'm a single mum btw.

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Feelsodrained · 21/06/2024 09:05

Passthecoffee · 21/06/2024 08:56

You can't insure a car if you don't own it - you have no insurable interest. He would need to transfer the ownership of his vehicle to you. Regardless of this, I wouldn't recommend it. He needs to sort it out. Also, having an insurance policy forcibly cancelled is something that needs to be declared on any new insurance policies he may take out.

You can be insured on a car you don’t own. I’m not sure what he’s proposing actually - that the OP pay his insurance or that she is the main named driver and he is an additional driver. But his premiums would still be high.

StarvingMarvin222 · 21/06/2024 09:05

@CrossingBoundaries007how old is your child and how long have you been seeing cf.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 21/06/2024 09:04

You do realise he's full of shit and telling you a pack of lies?

echt · 21/06/2024 09:04

LameBorzoi · 21/06/2024 08:56

If you enjoy his company and you aren't wanting more, he could be a pleasant boyfriend.

Just don't subsidise him for anything, don't get married, and don't let him move in. Keep your legal and financial stuff completely separate

He is not pleasant, he's asked her to commit fraud.

Ladyritacircumference · 21/06/2024 09:02

His insurance status would be investigated next time he speeds, or has an accident or looses his license. You will be found to have committed fraud, as that is what it is. He is the main driver of the car, not you. You will be held to account for it. Do you really want that on your insurance record forever, plus you will have a criminal record. Imagine what that will do to your future employability. You won’t be able to get insurance, you won’t be able to hold a job that you need to drive to. This is not to mention the stress it will cause your own children. He knows all this, yet he is asking you to do it. This man doesn’t give a stuff about you.

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/06/2024 09:01

None of this adds up.

The private school fees amount, the fact that he chose the school and she didn't know even though she is primary carer. Even the fact that she's in rented accommodation and he's paying...

Doesn't make any sense.

Illpickthatup · 21/06/2024 09:01

So his ex's rent is paid in full and his child is in private school but he can't afford his rent or car insurance. If he can't afford his own rent why is he paying for someone else's? Maybe he should be speaking to his ex first about her starting to support herself unless the rent payment is in place of maintenance. If he's paying maintenance then he shouldn't be paying her rent as well.

You're risking your own insurance by putting him on it. 12 points? Really? He needs to start being a bit more responsible and until then it's not up to you to bail him out. Do you really think this will just stop at car insurance? It won't. There will be something else and before you know it he'll have moved in with you and you'll be feeding him and his 3 kids. Meanwhile he'll still be paying his ex's rent.

DragonGypsyDoris · 21/06/2024 09:00

Keep your finances totally separate from this huge problem. Is he currently driving without insurance? How is he getting to work? If he's already got 12 points, he should be banned. Does he even have a current valid licence? Run away.

Nouvellenovel · 21/06/2024 09:00

Passthecoffee · 21/06/2024 08:56

You can't insure a car if you don't own it - you have no insurable interest. He would need to transfer the ownership of his vehicle to you. Regardless of this, I wouldn't recommend it. He needs to sort it out. Also, having an insurance policy forcibly cancelled is something that needs to be declared on any new insurance policies he may take out.

Of course you can. You just have to inform the insurance company.
It is however necessary to put him as the main driver, otherwise it’s fronting.
The company would suss you out v. quickly.

LittleGreenDragons · 21/06/2024 08:58

If you do this (which you shouldn't) you could be liable for paying it all or even possibly refused insurance for yourself. Could YOU cope with no car insurance?

You do realise if you do this his next move will be not being able to pay rent - so he will move in with you. Then he won't be able to pay half the bills... This would mean YOUR child would be subsidising a strange man, a strange woman, and three strange kids all because their mother fancied a man. Grow a pair and tell this future cocklodger NO. Better yet WE ARE OVER. Seriously OP, we see your situation time and time again. Be a real mother and consider your child first. Every single time.

Feelsodrained · 21/06/2024 08:57

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:47

Yes I have said no, a few weeks back he asked me to take a loan so he could sort out some things and he would be servicing it. I said NO! 😊

What the FUCK. Actually get rid of this guy, now. He’s literally just using you.

Passthecoffee · 21/06/2024 08:56

You can't insure a car if you don't own it - you have no insurable interest. He would need to transfer the ownership of his vehicle to you. Regardless of this, I wouldn't recommend it. He needs to sort it out. Also, having an insurance policy forcibly cancelled is something that needs to be declared on any new insurance policies he may take out.

LameBorzoi · 21/06/2024 08:56

If you enjoy his company and you aren't wanting more, he could be a pleasant boyfriend.

Just don't subsidise him for anything, don't get married, and don't let him move in. Keep your legal and financial stuff completely separate

Olivie12 · 21/06/2024 08:56

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:47

Yes I have said no, a few weeks back he asked me to take a loan so he could sort out some things and he would be servicing it. I said NO! 😊

The loan request should have been your signal to leave that relationship. He will just keep taking and taking from you and your DC.

TheTartfulLodger · 21/06/2024 08:55

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:50

I mentioned that his ex didn't even know about him applying to the private school for the son but I guess she just accepted it since she wasn't the one paying. I don't think he plans to send the others to private school. He said he did it cos he passed 11+ but wasn't offered a place due to catchment.

So he fully intends to treat his other children differently. Ok. And knowing full well that he couldn't afford it anyway because he doesn't have a stable reliable income and already had a terrible record for driving offences, he still thought this was a good idea? Come on, she just went along with it? I hate to break it to you but they both would have attended the initial induction meetings together. He probably hasn't told you that though..

echt · 21/06/2024 08:55

He said he did it cos he passed 11+ but wasn't offered a place due to catchment

That doesn't sound right to me. Someone come along and tell me grammar schools are catchment-based. I'm not in the uK.

Itsprobablynotcominhome · 21/06/2024 08:54

If he's asking you to insure the car in your name, so that he can get a cheaper premium having previously had insurance cancelled, and you/he don't plan to tell the insurance company that he has insurance cancelled then that's fraud- it's misrepresentation. You can't insure a vehicle you have no financial interest in in your name.

You also do not want your insurance record associated with someone who has had insurance cancelled. There's an excellent chance that it will cause your premiums to increase and if the insurance company finds out and cancels the new insurance, you'll have committed fraud too for fronting the policy for him.

God knows why you're wasting your life with this loser.

Exactlab · 21/06/2024 08:54

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 05:02

Why shouldn't I help, stupid question i know 🙈

Edited

This man makes poor decisions.

He pays his ex wife’s rent which means he can’t pay his own = poor decision.

He puts one of his children in a private school he can’t afford = poor decision.

He hasn’t paid his car insurance so he’s now driving around without insurance = poor decision.

He has almost lost his license due to speeding - even though he needs his license for his job = many poor decisions.

His solution is that you put his insurance under your name and you pay the insurance. WTF?!

My understanding of insurance is if a person is doing something reckless or illegal and they cause an accident the insurance won’t pay anyway. But why would you pay insurance for someone who is reckless in a car and speeds? Your premiums will go through the roof if he causes an accident!

You would be very very silly to even consider this. Personally, I don’t think he’s paying his ex’s rent - I think he’s not earning the money to sustain himself or he’s gambling. He should be paying child support though.

You need to say no. This is highly inappropriate.

DexaVooveQhodu · 21/06/2024 08:53

You absolutely need to say no. And keep him at arms length. The fact that he is chaotic and impulsive with money (and clearly with other things too eg speeding) make it a generally bad idea for you to entangle your life with his. So keeping yourselves fully separate financially is vital. No harm having fun with him if you like him. Make absolutely certain you won't conceive a child to him (double up contraception) and don't ever consider living together. If you entangle closer your own child will be the first victim of the chaos that descends.

Abi86 · 21/06/2024 08:52

You’re being completely unreasonable if you DO pay! It looks like he hasn’t got his shit in a sock and he’s making it your problem with his poor life choices. Once you invest in his poor choices you start owning the consequences too.

If you’re prepared to go into debt, struggle to pay for your child’s expenses, perhaps obtain a poor credit rating yourself - along with the stress that’ll contain - fill your boots - bail your bf out.

Bumblebeeinatree · 21/06/2024 08:52

If the insurance is in your name you have to be the main driver, if he's the main driver it has to be in his name or it will be invalid. You would be deliberately fronting his insurance to get a cheaper quote that he cannot get because of his terrible driving.

TomatoSandwiches · 21/06/2024 08:52

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:47

Yes I have said no, a few weeks back he asked me to take a loan so he could sort out some things and he would be servicing it. I said NO! 😊

Good for you, how did he react?
Don't you find it annoying that he's already come back to ask for another favour?

He seems to just take and take from you op.

WaltzingWaters · 21/06/2024 08:52

Lifesucks2024 · 21/06/2024 05:07

Because he's relying on you early on in a relationship.
Because he is clearly a terrible driver and has 12 points on his licence.
Because he shouldn't have children in private school if he can't afford car insurance or bills.
Because it's not your problem to fix and you'll never see that money again.
Because your name will be linked to dangerous driving and your own insurance premiums could they skyrocket.
Because he's shit with money and makes poor decisions.

All of this. I’d call red flags on the whole relationship really, but I’d certainly say no to putting him on your insurance.

Halfemptyhalfling · 21/06/2024 08:51

I think you need some distance between him and you. I think he will keep asking until in a weak moment you say yes.

There is a national shortage of trades people so he shouldn't be short of work.

CrossingBoundaries007 · 21/06/2024 08:51

viques · 21/06/2024 08:47

Forget the debts, points on licence, cancelled car tax, three kids ex wife baggage this person drags behind him to your door. The most important sentence in your post is the last one.

You are a single parent.

So sit yourself down for a minute and think about who is the most important person in your life, who do you need to be protecting, who should come first in every decision you make.

There, that wasn’t hard was it?

No it wasn't that hard, thanks ❤️

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