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To think I heard a dog barking on a KLM flight?

113 replies

MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 00:24

Is this possible?

I flew from Amsterdam to Edinburgh today with KLM. As the plane started to taxi before takeoff, I distinctly heard the high pitched yelps of a dog underneath us.

Do normal planes offer dog carriage in the hold?

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parkrun500club · 21/06/2024 08:38

Ladyandherspaniel · 21/06/2024 01:50

I know this isn't the question but I often wonder how scary it must be for a dog to be in the hold of the plane by itself. And how traumatised they must be afterwards.

My dog is traumatised by the hoover so imagine how loud and scary that must be for them 😭

I couldn't personally do that to my dog.

I know it's a weird concept. Either holiday in the UK, go overland or leave your dog at home with a dogsitter or use a kennel. And if you are moving overseas, surely you'd drive/go overland. I know people don't like kennels but it's got to be better than stocking a live animal in the hold of a plane.

Although I know of someone who recently moved to Canada and took her dog with her. She travelled via the US but I have no idea what airline or type of aircraft she took :)

MonsteraMama · 21/06/2024 08:20

LakeTiticaca · 21/06/2024 07:42

Did he have his own seat?

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Yes! I had the window seat, Monty in his carrier in the middle, owner had the aisle.

OneRealOchreHiker · 21/06/2024 07:59

liveforsummer · 21/06/2024 05:56

KLM may well take dogs on some routes but unless things have changed, Manchester is the only airport in the UK that receives live animals.

There is an ARC in Edinburgh, and I think there are actually 2 at LHR and LGW now as well. Pet shipping is a big industry. Ex UK dogs generally have to go in hold unless service dogs.

LakeTiticaca · 21/06/2024 07:42

MonsteraMama · 21/06/2024 00:26

Yeah KLM allow pets in the hold, and in the cabin on some flights. I got to sit next to a very pleasant cat recently, he was the best plane neighbour I've ever had.

Did he have his own seat?

HappiestSleeping · 21/06/2024 07:34

Hatfullofwillow · 21/06/2024 06:40

Pilot's guide dog?

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Greencats78 · 21/06/2024 07:25

KLM website says pets in the cabin allowed as long as they are under 8kg

notimagain · 21/06/2024 07:12

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/06/2024 05:52

Agreed. Very interesting. I had no idea you’d be able to hear a dog in the hold from above. Mind you, you’d probably hear mine. He is notoriously LOUD!

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Have to say did a bit of flying over the years and have never known dogs to be audible from the passenger cabin.

As mentioned the Airbus shorthaul aircraft are certainly notorious for producing a very noticeable rhythmic dog barking sound (due to the hydraulics), often happens on engine start or shutdown….and in these days of fuel efficiency it’s not uncommon to start the second engine, and hence get the sound, during taxi out. Boeing’s don’t do it to my knowledge, not sure about Embraer.

Be interesting to see what aircraft was actually in use yesterday.

Hatfullofwillow · 21/06/2024 06:40

Pilot's guide dog?

ProjectKettle · 21/06/2024 06:28

liveforsummer · 21/06/2024 05:56

KLM may well take dogs on some routes but unless things have changed, Manchester is the only airport in the UK that receives live animals.

What happened to the animal centres at Heathrow and Gatwick? There used to be a documentary series about the animals that they received. Have they been closed?

pyjamalife · 21/06/2024 06:28

@RealOliveTraybake another one who thinks your posts are brill. Not at all angry or aggressive (unlike the poster who claims you are) and you kept your cool in responding to the fake allegations.

bergamotorange · 21/06/2024 06:13

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They weren't angry, just factual.

CormorantStrikesBack · 21/06/2024 06:05

Lassi · 21/06/2024 01:44

I found @RealOliveTraybake post really interesting to be honest. Amazing when someone pops up with that kind of specialist knowledge.

I also found her post interesting and not rude.

Bernadinetta · 21/06/2024 05:57

@ReadthemAndWeep tbh you’re the one coming across as angry and rude. @RealOliveTraybake was giving information in a perfectly normal way.

liveforsummer · 21/06/2024 05:56

KLM may well take dogs on some routes but unless things have changed, Manchester is the only airport in the UK that receives live animals.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/06/2024 05:52

amylou8 · 21/06/2024 04:31

Clearly an av geek. Absolutely nothing wrong or aggressive about their well considered responses. Thank you @RealOliveTraybake very interesting.

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Agreed. Very interesting. I had no idea you’d be able to hear a dog in the hold from above. Mind you, you’d probably hear mine. He is notoriously LOUD!

SheIsBack · 21/06/2024 05:50

MonsteraMama · 21/06/2024 00:26

Yeah KLM allow pets in the hold, and in the cabin on some flights. I got to sit next to a very pleasant cat recently, he was the best plane neighbour I've ever had.

I got to sit next to a very pleasant cat recently

This comment amused me!

(My husband is allergic though and would have sneezed the entire way!)

MikeRafone · 21/06/2024 05:45

ReadthemAndWeep · 21/06/2024 00:43

Most likely the hydrolics pumping. I hear it all the time when I fly, at that same exact time before takeoff. I asked the crew and this is what they said. They often joke it's dogs in the hold apparently.

This ^ I used to fly with monarch and it always happened on take off

FiveShelties · 21/06/2024 05:17

When we emigrated to NZ in 2003 we shipped a Sheltie. When we moved back to UK in 2014 we shipped a different Sheltie and then took that same Sheltie back to NZ three years later.

It is the definition of insanity to do three international moves and to ship a dog on each move - it was also very expensive.

Frangipanyoul8r · 21/06/2024 05:12

RealOliveTraybake · 21/06/2024 01:07

The "dog barking" sound is one particular to the A320 family, and is the PTU(Power transfer unit) - a reversible hydraulic motor that transfers hydraulic power without fluid exchange between systems. KLM mainline doesn't operate any A320 family aircraft, this was likely a 737 or embraer 190.

Yes they heard a dog.

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Love it when someone who knows what they’re talking about swoops in like this while all of us are faffing around guessing 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

amylou8 · 21/06/2024 04:31

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Clearly an av geek. Absolutely nothing wrong or aggressive about their well considered responses. Thank you @RealOliveTraybake very interesting.

SD1978 · 21/06/2024 04:22

@ReadthemAndWeep- they o it aggressive sounding posts really are yours- sorry! I also found @RealOliveTraybake responses quite informative! Do you watch all the flight paths too @RealOliveTraybake?!

CottonCandyLand · 21/06/2024 04:10

When we moved overseas we brought our dogs with us. They had a 14hr flight, pee break, 3 hour flight, 1 hour flight. They were fine, not traumatized at all.
Some dogs don’t cope well at all but mine did. I’m glad I had three together so although they couldn’t see each other they could smell each other.

Persianpuss · 21/06/2024 04:03

I didn't read @RealOliveTraybake 's posts as angry or rude 🤷‍♀️

WiddlinDiddlin · 21/06/2024 03:22

I wouldn't put my dog in the hold, though thats more because I fear the dog not making a connecting flight, not being loaded on the correct plane at all, being left on the tarmac, being allowed to escape into the airport grounds (all things I know have happened to dogs, some with fatal consequences)..

My clients that have/do fly their dogs, train them to handle being crated, to cope with loud noises etc and prep for flights long before they go on the first one and in between flights too. Its not (or it should not be!) a case of shoving them in a crate and flying them for hours with zero prep!

Ladyandherspaniel · 21/06/2024 01:50

I know this isn't the question but I often wonder how scary it must be for a dog to be in the hold of the plane by itself. And how traumatised they must be afterwards.

My dog is traumatised by the hoover so imagine how loud and scary that must be for them 😭

I couldn't personally do that to my dog.