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To think I heard a dog barking on a KLM flight?

113 replies

MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 00:24

Is this possible?

I flew from Amsterdam to Edinburgh today with KLM. As the plane started to taxi before takeoff, I distinctly heard the high pitched yelps of a dog underneath us.

Do normal planes offer dog carriage in the hold?

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Compash · 21/06/2024 09:59

Persianpuss · 21/06/2024 04:03

I didn't read @RealOliveTraybake 's posts as angry or rude 🤷‍♀️

No, nor me - just sharing insider information that I was interested to hear. 🤷‍♀️

Topseyt123 · 21/06/2024 09:57

liveforsummer · 21/06/2024 05:56

KLM may well take dogs on some routes but unless things have changed, Manchester is the only airport in the UK that receives live animals.

I don't think that's true. Heathrow even has an Animal Reception Centre, which it colloquially knows as the Ark (ARC). It has for many years.

Gatwick has similar facilities.

Animal care facilities at both airports are open 24/7.

OnceICaughtACold · 21/06/2024 09:49

ReadthemAndWeep · 21/06/2024 09:45

Nah, the poster was rude.
I offered an explanation to the op and they jumped down my throat with "facts" repeatedly, even though they had no idea what plane the op was on and my Google search proved them wrong.

They didn't want to be wrong and continued with their unproven "facts"

You know all of us who think you’re the rude one can read all the posts too, right?

SerafinasGoose · 21/06/2024 09:48

crackofdoom · 21/06/2024 09:47

Me too.

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+1 for that! I love offbeat facts that are probably useless to me but interesting nonetheless.

crackofdoom · 21/06/2024 09:47

Lassi · 21/06/2024 01:44

I found @RealOliveTraybake post really interesting to be honest. Amazing when someone pops up with that kind of specialist knowledge.

Me too.

Groveparker01 · 21/06/2024 09:47

I live near an airport that only flies private planes - lots of celebs/F1 teams/politicians/business people etc. They have a dedicated team for people's pets. It's called Sky Pets and I'm a little bit obsessed with it!

ReadthemAndWeep · 21/06/2024 09:45

Nah, the poster was rude.
I offered an explanation to the op and they jumped down my throat with "facts" repeatedly, even though they had no idea what plane the op was on and my Google search proved them wrong.

They didn't want to be wrong and continued with their unproven "facts"

TheFlis · 21/06/2024 09:44

Greencats78 · 21/06/2024 07:25

KLM website says pets in the cabin allowed as long as they are under 8kg

Some airlines allow animals in the cabin but UK regulations do not allow animals to be in the cabin when arriving in the UK regardless of airline policy. They are allowed to be in the cabin on some flights departing the UK though.

SilkFloss · 21/06/2024 09:44

Another one here re-iterating that @RealOliveTraybake didn't come across as rude in the slightest. They were stating some aviation facts and figures, relevant to the thread.

SammyScrounge · 21/06/2024 09:41

RealOliveTraybake · 21/06/2024 01:07

The "dog barking" sound is one particular to the A320 family, and is the PTU(Power transfer unit) - a reversible hydraulic motor that transfers hydraulic power without fluid exchange between systems. KLM mainline doesn't operate any A320 family aircraft, this was likely a 737 or embraer 190.

Yes they heard a dog.

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@RealOliveTraybake
That must be one of the most impressive and knowledgeable answers ever given on MN!
The dog barked! Yes indeedy the little dog
barked!

SerafinasGoose · 21/06/2024 09:40

CorporaINobbyNobbs · 21/06/2024 00:52

i would love to sit next to a cat on a plane!

I love cats too.

But it would be just the same if its travelling companion had been allergic.

KimberleyClark · 21/06/2024 09:38

On a recent flight to Edinburgh (Loganair) a blind man had his guide dog with him in the cabin. Lovely dog.

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MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 09:37

The pilot and crew were all utterly immaculate in incredibly crisp, stylish outfits. Women had choice of traditional pencil skirt or adorable little flared slacks. All in Dutch blue, so attractive.

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MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 09:34

It was an older plane with three three seating but I must take a moment to praise KLM for their professionalism and great service. Most reassuring for those of us less experienced travellers.

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StrawberryFlowers · 21/06/2024 09:33

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She wasn't angry or rude.

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MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 09:32

Yip, I'm in awe!

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TheDarkMonarch · 21/06/2024 09:30

RealOliveTraybake · 21/06/2024 01:07

The "dog barking" sound is one particular to the A320 family, and is the PTU(Power transfer unit) - a reversible hydraulic motor that transfers hydraulic power without fluid exchange between systems. KLM mainline doesn't operate any A320 family aircraft, this was likely a 737 or embraer 190.

Yes they heard a dog.

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Don't you just love it when a thread subject and a subject expert meet like this Grin

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MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 09:26

Hatfullofwillow · 21/06/2024 06:40

Pilot's guide dog?

😂😂😂

I'm certain it wasn't the hydraulics. But nobody else around me appeared to notice the yelps. Sorry to admit to the dog lovers that it did sound like a distressed, probably quite small, doggy.

Aircraft geeks are most welcome too, I find flying really stressful but I'd prefer to find it fascinating!

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Onacuctustree · 21/06/2024 08:53

Many years ago we emigrated with our dog. On our return we were advised not to put the dog through Heathrow. Pet handling was better at Schiphol apparently. So he flew from Schiphol to Manchester. He was not traumatised by the experience.
I have no idea if you would actually be able to hear a dog bark from the hold. But it doesn't sound like it's beyond the realms of possibilities.

MrsGhastlyCrumb · 21/06/2024 08:53

Lassi · 21/06/2024 01:44

I found @RealOliveTraybake post really interesting to be honest. Amazing when someone pops up with that kind of specialist knowledge.

I completely agree. I didn't find it aggressive either, be honest. Just informed.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 21/06/2024 08:51

I flew from Cork last week and saw two dogs being loaded into the hold of the neighbouring Air France plane.

Clearinguptheclutter · 21/06/2024 08:50

In continental Europe it is entirely normal to have dogs in the cabin

this was years ago but once on Swissair the cabin crew were actually playing fetch with a small poodle and a ball.

notimagain · 21/06/2024 08:48

For info from the likes of Flightaware looks like KLM did indeed have 737’s on the route yesterday, which lends weight to the idea the noise might not have been hydraulic system related (unless the newer Boeings have started barking).

It’s been a while since I was involved in this but AFAIK any dogs on flights into the UK would have to be in a carrier in the hold (though service dogs get an exception), and on many types it’s usually the rear hold for reasons various.

The cabin floor structure is fairly lightweight and there are air vents that run between the passenger cabin to hold, so whilst I’ve definitely not heard dogs in the hold barking on flights I know they have been carried I’d guess in some circumstances it might be possible.

TakeOnFlea · 21/06/2024 08:47

The poster wasn't aggressive or rude. People are ridiculous on here. It'll be the hydraulics, you're not hearing a dog bark in the hold.