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To think I heard a dog barking on a KLM flight?

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MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 00:24

Is this possible?

I flew from Amsterdam to Edinburgh today with KLM. As the plane started to taxi before takeoff, I distinctly heard the high pitched yelps of a dog underneath us.

Do normal planes offer dog carriage in the hold?

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HighOnMaiden · 21/06/2024 13:22

I have family with a holiday home in Slovenia and briefly looked into going out for a few weeks with my small 4kg dog. My understanding was he could fly out of the uk in the cabin, but flying in he’d have to be in the hold.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/06/2024 13:19

MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 00:31

I'm so glad I'm not going mad!!

Sanity is overrated, @MorrisZapp. The last of my marbles fell out of the bag years ago, and I can't say I have missed them!😂

As they saying goes - all the world is mad, save thee and me, dear - and even thee's a little peculiar!

ReadthemAndWeep · 21/06/2024 13:17

JingsMahBucket · 21/06/2024 13:08

Sounds like you just don’t like facts that you yourself don’t know. Are you allergic to them?

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Sound like you are glossing over the part where I Google the "facts" from the "expert" and they are not true 😂

JingsMahBucket · 21/06/2024 13:08

ReadthemAndWeep · 21/06/2024 09:45

Nah, the poster was rude.
I offered an explanation to the op and they jumped down my throat with "facts" repeatedly, even though they had no idea what plane the op was on and my Google search proved them wrong.

They didn't want to be wrong and continued with their unproven "facts"

Sounds like you just don’t like facts that you yourself don’t know. Are you allergic to them?

Notacrab · 21/06/2024 12:51

ReadthemAndWeep · 21/06/2024 09:45

Nah, the poster was rude.
I offered an explanation to the op and they jumped down my throat with "facts" repeatedly, even though they had no idea what plane the op was on and my Google search proved them wrong.

They didn't want to be wrong and continued with their unproven "facts"

Funny how you are the only one with that opinion. 😂

Persianpuss · 21/06/2024 12:48

MoonshineSon · 21/06/2024 10:06

This is my favourite ever geeky technical reply to a question.

I want you as my lawyer.

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Even if (s)he's a pilot? 🤣

Dahlietta · 21/06/2024 11:34

Probably the ghost of all those squirrels...

WhoIsnt · 21/06/2024 11:28

@RealOliveTraybake I found your posts interesting - good factual info.

@ReadthemAndWeep I found YOUR posts to be rude and confrontational. You're very defensive.

MonsteraMama · 21/06/2024 11:09

CasperGutman · 21/06/2024 10:58

This would be an absolute nightmare for me on a long flight, as I'm allergic to cats and would have a horrible time with itching eyes, streaming nose and sneezing multiple times a minute.

I've taken quite a number of flights and never noticed a live animal being carried, so it hadn't occurred to me until now that this could be an issue I could be exposed to. Is there a list somewhere of airlines that allow live animals on board? And do any airlines provide passengers with an opportunity to register animal allergies (or phobias) so they can avoid seating them near pets?

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Ironically I'm actually allergic to cats, but because I'm also motion sick I'm drugged up to my eyeballs on most flights and the medicine I take for motion sickness is also an antihistamine. So I was ok, more or less. I appreciate some allergies are significantly more severe than mine though.

When I boarded the attendants did inform me I'd be sat next to a cat and asked if that would be ok, otherwise they'd move things around, and I think they asked the people in the rows in front and behind too. So they do seem to make allowances for allergies where possible.

CasperGutman · 21/06/2024 10:58

MonsteraMama · 21/06/2024 08:20

Yes! I had the window seat, Monty in his carrier in the middle, owner had the aisle.

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This would be an absolute nightmare for me on a long flight, as I'm allergic to cats and would have a horrible time with itching eyes, streaming nose and sneezing multiple times a minute.

I've taken quite a number of flights and never noticed a live animal being carried, so it hadn't occurred to me until now that this could be an issue I could be exposed to. Is there a list somewhere of airlines that allow live animals on board? And do any airlines provide passengers with an opportunity to register animal allergies (or phobias) so they can avoid seating them near pets?

CallThatCloudy · 21/06/2024 10:20

RealOliveTraybake · 21/06/2024 01:07

The "dog barking" sound is one particular to the A320 family, and is the PTU(Power transfer unit) - a reversible hydraulic motor that transfers hydraulic power without fluid exchange between systems. KLM mainline doesn't operate any A320 family aircraft, this was likely a 737 or embraer 190.

Yes they heard a dog.

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Great post!

Kendodd · 21/06/2024 10:17

I lived in the US as a teen, I remember domestic flights would have all the pets going round on the luggage carousel in their crates with the suitcases waiting to be claimed by their owners on landing.

rainbowunicorn · 21/06/2024 10:17

ReadthemAndWeep · 21/06/2024 09:45

Nah, the poster was rude.
I offered an explanation to the op and they jumped down my throat with "facts" repeatedly, even though they had no idea what plane the op was on and my Google search proved them wrong.

They didn't want to be wrong and continued with their unproven "facts"

You are the only person being rude. Everyone else is just having a discussion
Maybe the fact that so many people have disagreed with you saying the other poster is rude should make you stop and think.
What they said was factual information delivered in a factual, calm way. You are the one getting het up and being rude.

OneTC · 21/06/2024 10:16

ReadthemAndWeep · 21/06/2024 09:45

Nah, the poster was rude.
I offered an explanation to the op and they jumped down my throat with "facts" repeatedly, even though they had no idea what plane the op was on and my Google search proved them wrong.

They didn't want to be wrong and continued with their unproven "facts"

Stop digging 😅

Original poster
MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 10:12

Me too 😊

The only way that answer is improvable would be if it used my preferred pronoun, she. Admittedly my user name is ambiguous.

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Kendodd · 21/06/2024 10:12

ReadthemAndWeep · 21/06/2024 09:45

Nah, the poster was rude.
I offered an explanation to the op and they jumped down my throat with "facts" repeatedly, even though they had no idea what plane the op was on and my Google search proved them wrong.

They didn't want to be wrong and continued with their unproven "facts"

I didn't think they were rude at all.
I was very impressed with your knowledge, but I was even more impressed with their knowledge. You two could have had a really interesting discussion that would have been really informative for the rest of us, shame you decided to take offence.

DrNowt · 21/06/2024 10:10

My dog flew long haul with KLM in the hold, from Africa to Amsterdam ( where they have a big animal reception centre/layover hotel!) then from Amsterdam to London Heathrow, where they have a big animal reception centre also. There was a documentary about the heathrow centre (HARC ) a few years back.....they receive all sorts from flights, dogs, horses, snakes, rhinos! My dog may have met a rhino 😁
I swear I heard her bark on the plane, as I was on the same flight

Lalalalalalalalalalalalala · 21/06/2024 10:09

@RealOliveTraybake wasn't rude. A bit abrupt but not rude. It's not rude for an expert to provide a correction - and looks like she was correct based on other responders here.

I also never thought you'd be able to hear a dog bark from the hold but I sounds like that's what it was. No in cabin into the UK. It's possible exceptions are made for guide dogs and similar but I wouldn't expect a dog trained as well as a guide dog to bark in that environment.

MoonshineSon · 21/06/2024 10:06

RealOliveTraybake · 21/06/2024 01:07

The "dog barking" sound is one particular to the A320 family, and is the PTU(Power transfer unit) - a reversible hydraulic motor that transfers hydraulic power without fluid exchange between systems. KLM mainline doesn't operate any A320 family aircraft, this was likely a 737 or embraer 190.

Yes they heard a dog.

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This is my favourite ever geeky technical reply to a question.

I want you as my lawyer.

mitogoshi · 21/06/2024 10:06

Many carriers (not ba) allow small dogs and cats in carriers in the cabin these days. However it could also be aircraft noise!

Compash · 21/06/2024 10:05

I couldn't bear to think of a dog being upset in the hold... I'd have to buy him a seat, then dress him up in a hat and coat and give him a fake moustache like a little man...

Dontcallmescarface · 21/06/2024 10:03

liveforsummer · 21/06/2024 05:56

KLM may well take dogs on some routes but unless things have changed, Manchester is the only airport in the UK that receives live animals.

Heathrow has an ARC......a family member works there.

Compash · 21/06/2024 10:03

MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 10:00

I took a cat in a car once (in a basket) and it did a crap which then stank out the car for the duration. How would a cat be guaranteed not to ruin a flight by doing likewise?

Our cats make it a point of honour to do so every time... and the worst thing is, you can't open the windows in case they escape... the number of times I've turned up at the vet with tears running down my face... 😭

TheBestFriend · 21/06/2024 10:03

Small dogs are permitted to be in cabin by some airlines. Larger ones go to hold.

Original poster
MorrisZapp · 21/06/2024 10:00

I took a cat in a car once (in a basket) and it did a crap which then stank out the car for the duration. How would a cat be guaranteed not to ruin a flight by doing likewise?

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