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To think that owning your own home doesn't give you the right to be rude and entitled?

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k2493 · 20/06/2024 23:17

AIBU to think that owning your own home doesn't give you the right to be rude and entitled?

We have been having issues with our neighbours and how entitled they appear to be for years now. i.e please stop allowing your guests to park where they block our driveway.

We have asked the agent but we keep getting told try to have a discussion.

Well I finally had enough and politely asked must you constantly allow your guests to block our driveway? It's making our life very difficult. The response straight away was Do you own your property? Nope. Well we do.

What the actual? I am genuinely confused. Does it really matter in this day and age whether you rent or own? DH says he's a twat because it should have nothing to do with money but if he wants to play that game, we pay 1.5 times more in rent than he does for his mortgage so he needs to get a life.

Also I appreciate there have been some bad tenants in the past but there's a lot of us good ones and I appreciate not all home owners are this bias but surely this is bang out of order lording it over and thinking it's there god given right because they own and we don't. I work with clients needing housing all the time so I know how severe the housing shortage is at the moment. Surely anyone who is keeping a roof over there head at the moment is doing a great job mortgage, tenant or otherwise. Why do we deserve less respect because we are renting.

OP posts:
crackofdoom · 21/06/2024 08:35

orangeleopard · 21/06/2024 08:22

I’m having a very similar issue. I live on a nice new build ‘estate’ where all of the houses are owned and are worth around £1m+. On this estate is two small council block of flats, we pay over £1k to the council so our rent isn’t cheap - but they treat us like crap because we’re council and they own their homes. The flats have a car park where we have allocated parking spaces. The houses don’t want to lower the status of the area by making it look ‘messy’ with cars on the road so they send their visitors to park in our car park - which means them parking in our allocated spaces. I mean when people have parties, all guests park in our car park which means none of us residents cannot park in our own spaces. I have brought it up the council and they do nothing, yet when one of the houses bring something up - the council send out a letter to state to ‘not park on the kerbs/road’. I have two allocated spaces and one car and a lot of the time cannot get one of my spaces. These houses have garage/garages AND large drives and still have the audacity to use our carpark. Yet they think because they own their homes and we’re ’just’ council that we’re beneath them.

Why don't you just block them in when they do that? That's what I do.

Soukmyfalafel · 21/06/2024 08:35

You should respond and say its a good job you rent because you don't have to live next to people like him for the rest of your lives and can easily move away.

Take lots of pictures and ask your agent to send them to your LL. Maybe if the homeowner turns up to have a word they might listen. You could always just say you are the LL daughter/nieceor something if that works.

parkrun500club · 21/06/2024 08:32

Everythingiscalmfornow · 20/06/2024 23:29

So you are basically being told by your neighbours that you are second class citizens because you rent your home and they own theirs?
An absolutely disgusting attitude.
Of course no one should be blocking your driveway. Owning or renting has no bearing on your rights as regards this.
What horrible snobs your neighbours are. You shouldn't let idiotic people like that put you down. You are as good as them. Better in fact because their attitude shows them up for what they are.

I've not encountered this with home ownership but I've definitely encountered it with cars - ie if you have a cheap (relatively speaking, I'm not sure any second hand car is cheap these days!) car you must be poor and therefore not worth speaking to.

Experienced it with parents of members of ds's football team. Also a neighbour. And a neighbour of my mum who was inspecting our 2014 reg car (my mum spotted him looking at it said our Porsche was in the garage Grin)

The thing is, I probably afford a new(er) car but I don't want one - I work from home and don't need to drive very much.

And by the same token it's a bit of an assumption that people who rent can't afford to buy - there are lots of reasons why people rent! And so what if they can't afford to buy. Lots of people can't afford to buy. It's weird how people think they are morally superior because they (think they) have more money.

Silly snob OP but it's hard when you live next door to them.

Jc2001 · 21/06/2024 08:31

Sasqwatch · 20/06/2024 23:36

we pay 1.5 times more in rent than he does for his mortgage so he needs to get a life.

Uhm I’m not sure that is a cause for celebration or oneupmanship 🤔

They're making a point about entitlement.

Onelifeonly · 21/06/2024 08:31

Call parking control at the council? Once I parked in a hurry when I was late for work and forgot to check the position of the front of the car. It was partially blocking someone's drive and I got a fine. I assumed the resident called the council as it's unlikely a parking warden just happened to be patrolling. (We live in a CPZ and one year I forgot to renew my yearly permit - they are online now so nothing put in the car window. It was 6 months before a warden noticed.)

PoppyCherryDog · 21/06/2024 08:31

Ponoka7 · 20/06/2024 23:59

You can look up an address and it will tell you what it last sold for. Mortgages are cheaper than rents, without doing that.

You can’t look up what rate their mortgage is on, what term it is and what their deposit was though 😂

Tiredalwaystired · 21/06/2024 08:26

Correlation is not causation. Your neighbours are just wankers, home owners or not.

For gods sake let’s not add homeowners v renters to the tribalism debate - theres enough already!

Daisys24 · 21/06/2024 08:24

I agree with your DH. I do own and I commend anyone who rents as I know I couldn’t afford it. Also you are paying for the use of the house and your neighbour isn’t so it’s your right to use the property and driveway not theirs.

orangeleopard · 21/06/2024 08:22

I’m having a very similar issue. I live on a nice new build ‘estate’ where all of the houses are owned and are worth around £1m+. On this estate is two small council block of flats, we pay over £1k to the council so our rent isn’t cheap - but they treat us like crap because we’re council and they own their homes. The flats have a car park where we have allocated parking spaces. The houses don’t want to lower the status of the area by making it look ‘messy’ with cars on the road so they send their visitors to park in our car park - which means them parking in our allocated spaces. I mean when people have parties, all guests park in our car park which means none of us residents cannot park in our own spaces. I have brought it up the council and they do nothing, yet when one of the houses bring something up - the council send out a letter to state to ‘not park on the kerbs/road’. I have two allocated spaces and one car and a lot of the time cannot get one of my spaces. These houses have garage/garages AND large drives and still have the audacity to use our carpark. Yet they think because they own their homes and we’re ’just’ council that we’re beneath them.

PoppyCherryDog · 21/06/2024 08:21

Yanbu they shouldn’t block your driveway.

But you have no idea what their mortgage is…

Stickthatupyourdojo · 21/06/2024 08:12

Urgh I sympathise OP it absolutely should not matter you rent but sadly some people get very excited or irate about renters. When we moved in we got a vibe that the neighbours were all actively avoiding us despite us being friendly. About 8 months in one finally spoke to us and referred to us as renting. We said we weren't renting and suddenly all smiles. She is the street's gossip so within a month suddenly everyone else started being friendly. We've since had regular unsolicited updates on who owns and who rents on the street. Bizarre how much people care about this sort of stuff.

I like the previous posters suggestion of reminding him any neighbour disputes will have to be declared if and when he sells his house.

PinkTonic · 21/06/2024 08:09

We rented a house for 6 months when we moved to a new area. The snobbish next door neighbour was horrified to have tenants next door instead of the RAF officer owners, and caused a lot of stress and trouble with complaints and reports. When we told her were moving she asked where to and clearly didn’t believe we were buying the much bigger nicer house than hers. A couple of days after we moved we saw them slowly driving past the new house peering in to check it was us.

k2493 · 21/06/2024 08:03

@ Sasquatch Because he had the audacity to tell me that he is aware that we pay a lot more in rent than he does for his mortgage because not only does he keep an eye on prices of rent in the area but he also knows the landlord. Our nice neighbour on the other side has the same house and we know what they pay for there mortgage because they happily tell us when they see rent going up and up. This neighbour went on to say we are still just renters. No it doesn't give us one upmanship but I understand my DH making the comment because he was angry that we pay a lot of money and the neighbour was implying we are trash and have no rights/less rights because we rent.

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decionsdecisions62 · 21/06/2024 07:54

A few people see rental houses on their street as a negative I'm afraid. They think it dents their property value. Quite often but not always it does. Very few people then go on to verbally abuse those that are living there. They are psychos.

SpringKitten · 21/06/2024 07:53

@TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre i would do this too. “I’m blocked in by by your guests, I’ll wait here while you fetch them to move their vehicle.” If they reply “we will move it in five minutes” I’d repeat “I need to use my driveway now, so that won’t work - I’ll wait here.”

And if they re parked across the drive, I would ring again as soon as they did, and again drive around the block.

I would definitely also contact LL and explain and ask for a legal letter to be sent to neighbour explaining that if drive is repeatedly blocked, cars will be towed with no notice and expense charged to neighbour starting from dd.mm.yyyy.

You have the same right to access your property as houseowners.

if ll says no to sending a letter, explain you will otherwise be forced to raise a dispute with police and local authority and this means it would show up if ll ever wishes to sell the property. Ll may not like that.

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 21/06/2024 07:45

Every single time someone blocks your driveway I'd go knock on the door.

"Could you move your car please?"
Even if you just drive around the block.

Next time
"Could you move your car please?"

Do it enough times and the guests will cop on. He's probably told them it's ok to park wherever as you won't be going anywhere. I suggest you go somewhere, every-single-time.

Keepthosenamesgoing · 21/06/2024 07:40

greencartbluecart · 21/06/2024 07:35

Just remind them that a neighbour dispute will knock thousands off the value of their house

This ! You're tenants so no skin off your nose but definitely affects him !

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 21/06/2024 07:37

Get the council enforcement people to come and tow them. Every time.

greencartbluecart · 21/06/2024 07:35

Just remind them that a neighbour dispute will knock thousands off the value of their house

wastingtimeonhere · 21/06/2024 07:33

Try being council tenants to boot. We had one whose son would shoot his air gun out of the bedroom window at our son who he was bullying at school too. 'you can't do nuffink, my dad owns our house'

Another house, neighbour tried telling us what type of car we could have. Complained about noise, until council told him there wasn't a problem, it was the house construction but if he wanted sound proofing he could pay for it.
Complained we had a caravan. ( we had already checked, and we could have it. )

swayingpalmtree · 21/06/2024 06:46

we pay 1.5 times more in rent than he does for his mortgage so he needs to get a life

He sounds truly awful but what on earth has this got to do with anything? This is just as silly isnt it?

Moonlitwalk · 21/06/2024 06:44

CassandraWebb · 21/06/2024 00:37

When I was renting our neighbours didn't even bother checking with me before cutting a beautiful tree down that was in our garden. It was in full blossom as well!

They just looked baffled when I asked why they didn't check.

They regretted it when I told the landlord and he started legal action and they had to pay nearly £10k to replace it.

(They cut it down because they didn't like blossom landing on their cars!)

This is amazing- has brightened my day already!

Your neighbours are vile OP but thats their personality not due to owning their home. They would have been twats when they rented too. I own my house and have had neighbours park over my drive constantly as it's right next to the downs so people walk their dogs there. It's unbelievably inconsiderate.

Our next door neighbour tried to lord it over us because she'd lived there longer than we did which was so stupid. As if living there longer gives you the right to tell your neighbours what to do- karma got her in the end as she had to move out and into a small flat. I often wonder how she reacted when her new neighbours told her she couldn't do anything as she hadn't lived there as long as them!

paasll · 21/06/2024 06:43

Tell them they might own their property but they don’t own yours so they need to stop blocking access to it

Sillystrumpet · 21/06/2024 06:35

It’s nothing to do with renting or owning, he’s just a twat, surprised you don’t know this and have to ask.

in addition I’m not sure the fact you pay more is the positive you’re making out.

Floogal · 21/06/2024 06:20

Worse is when you live in a flat and one or more of the neighbours owns. Had one spiteful cow who was really like Mrs Hobbs. Had another guy who would rummage through the rubbish and recycling and leave passive aggressive notes up starting with 'tenants'.

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