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To expect my working from home to be respected

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footballinthepub · 20/06/2024 18:58

I work from home a couple of days per week. I am mid-twenties and living in my parent's house at the moment however I am actively making offers on flats. There isn't much on the market in my area and I keep getting outbid so it's been a longer process than I'd like. I also contribute money each month to the house.

I am in my first line management position. When I work from home I use the office upstairs and shut the door. My dad doesn't work and so is in and out of the house during the day. About 11am this morning, he opened the door to the office with no warning and said, "bye!" I was on a call at the time but thankfully not one where I needed to have my camera on or participate.

Later this afternoon when he came home, he walked in again unexpectedly. I asked him if he would mind not just coming in to the office when I'm working as I had literally just finished a call speaking to someone in my team about wellbeing issues they're having; given that I'm a manager my work can be about sensitive confidential topics. My dad's response was, "don't you dare. I can go where I like in my own house". I pointed out that until I can get a flat, it is my house too as I don't have anywhere else to go. He then left without shutting the door properly behind him. I got up to close it.

About 15 minutes later he burst in again to get something from the office. I protested again and he said, "it's my house. I need to be able to come in and out when I want. All I can speak for is me and what I need". I suggested that we at least discuss and come to an agreement that considers what we both need, such as him knocking the door first to check if it's ok to come in. His response was, "oh wise up!" said with derision, as though I was being ridiculous. I asked where he suggested I go to work where I won't be disturbed and he said, "I don't know, that's your lookout and for you to work out".

He is now acting as though nothing has happened and that I'm the bad one for being annoyed with him. This is always the pattern when we have a disagreement and nothing gets resolved.

AIBU to expect not to be unexpectedly disturbed when working from home?

OP posts:
Ottervision · 20/06/2024 21:38

Universalsnail · 20/06/2024 21:36

I agree with your Dad that if you work from home you can't expect people to not interact with you in some ways sometimes and if this is a big problem for you you should go work in an appropriate work space. I think this idea that our homes have to become someone's work space and we just have to tip toe around them working such nonsense and one of the worst things to come out of the pandemic.

There's a massive difference between "tiptoeing" round someone, and bursting in several times for no apparent reason. Nobody "tiptoes" round me when I wfh, equally they don't burst into the room because why on earth would they?

camelfinger · 20/06/2024 21:37

It sounds like he resents you being there all day. If I had an adult lodger, I’d stipulate that they couldn’t work from home except in emergencies. It just alters the dynamic somehow and I’d want my house to feel like a home rather than a workplace. Things have changed now so everyone is at home more - I wouldn’t mind my SC living with me until they were much older but I would expect the to spend most of their time out with friends or at work, it would get a bit much otherwise. Could you try to speak to your dad to get a compromise? He probably isn’t aware of newer working practices.

Ottervision · 20/06/2024 21:36

Whizzgosh · 20/06/2024 21:27

Wfh is really disruptive to anyone else in the household. I wfh which is usually fine as nobody else is home but ds has just finished his A levels and dd will be back from uni soon so I will be trying to organise more office days over the summer.
Talk to him about when you can’t be disturbed and when it’s ok for him to come in, ask how he suggests managing it.

I really don't get this if you're just in a room in the house? I just tell my child and husband not to come in but they can use the rest of the house perfectly fine?

Universalsnail · 20/06/2024 21:36

I agree with your Dad that if you work from home you can't expect people to not interact with you in some ways sometimes and if this is a big problem for you you should go work in an appropriate work space. I think this idea that our homes have to become someone's work space and we just have to tip toe around them working such nonsense and one of the worst things to come out of the pandemic.

Cookie105 · 20/06/2024 21:30

Put the desk in your bedroom.

Whizzgosh · 20/06/2024 21:27

Wfh is really disruptive to anyone else in the household. I wfh which is usually fine as nobody else is home but ds has just finished his A levels and dd will be back from uni soon so I will be trying to organise more office days over the summer.
Talk to him about when you can’t be disturbed and when it’s ok for him to come in, ask how he suggests managing it.

stichguru · 20/06/2024 21:25

Your dad is a horrible selfish man. However I think your best bet is to find somewhere else to live fast, as I don't think you will change him.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 20/06/2024 21:23

RawBloomers · 20/06/2024 21:21

I’m in two minds on this - Your DF has been rude and inconsiderate. But you taking over the office for your work could also be seen that way if it was done without discussion. People working from home is an inconvenience for the rest of the household during that work time, especially if the space they are using is a shared space. When you were offered the WFH position, did you discuss with your parents that you would need more of their house to yourself more of the time and come to an agreement about what that would look like? It sounds like you fell into the routine of working from home before your DF retired and now he has the costs of you doing so have manifest and he doesn’t like it?

His approach to the issue seems pretty childish so I wonder if he’s normally prone to being an ass when he wants his own, is really struggling with retirement (very common), or if you’ve long passed your welcome living at home anyway and he thinks you should have moved out quite some time ago?

It wasn't an office, it was used for storage, her dad built her desk so she could use it as an office

TheCadoganArms · 20/06/2024 21:22

Can you lock the door when on calls?

RawBloomers · 20/06/2024 21:21

I’m in two minds on this - Your DF has been rude and inconsiderate. But you taking over the office for your work could also be seen that way if it was done without discussion. People working from home is an inconvenience for the rest of the household during that work time, especially if the space they are using is a shared space. When you were offered the WFH position, did you discuss with your parents that you would need more of their house to yourself more of the time and come to an agreement about what that would look like? It sounds like you fell into the routine of working from home before your DF retired and now he has the costs of you doing so have manifest and he doesn’t like it?

His approach to the issue seems pretty childish so I wonder if he’s normally prone to being an ass when he wants his own, is really struggling with retirement (very common), or if you’ve long passed your welcome living at home anyway and he thinks you should have moved out quite some time ago?

sprigatito · 20/06/2024 21:19

You'll get lots of "his house, his rules" responses but I don't know anyone who would treat their adult child like this. Most of us want our adult children to do well and thrive. It's not hard to work around someone needing an uninterrupted space if you actually have any respect for what they are doing. Your dad is childish, spiteful and weird.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 20/06/2024 21:16

ilovesooty · 20/06/2024 19:40

Where has there been any suggestion that her father would ask for a set of keys when she buys her own property?

There wasn't. I was giving advice to avoid future boundary crossing scenarios. Many people give their parents or family members a set of keys and soon regret it.

soupfiend · 20/06/2024 21:13

Kelly51 · 20/06/2024 19:52

These pp saying he can burst in if he likes, would you like it done to you?
Do your DHs constantly go into your DDs bedrooms without a knock or is it ok?
OP is paying her way and he knows she's working, he is being rude and a bully.

Is OP in the bedroom when the dad bursts in?

user16422052 · 20/06/2024 21:12

Completely unreasonable of your father. It's his home but it would be basic courtesy to knock and wait. I guess he still thinks of you as a child doing children's things, not a proper job.

All the people telling you to "just" move out - it's not 20 years ago when there was a good supply of affordable housing. If you were my DD I'd be proud that you're a manager and trying to save for your first flat, not undermining you!

EatTheGnome · 20/06/2024 21:10

I get your workplace might jot have enough desks but you need to raise this with them. I'm sure something could be worked out, for example asking if someone wants to volunteer to work from home for a few days to allow you the space. This is your wellbeing issue.

Yes, your dad's being a disrespectful knob, but who is more likely to shift, work or dad? You need dad for a home right now. It's either talk to work or move out now.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 20/06/2024 21:08

And to everyone sticking the boot in about why she's living there, you don't know her circumstances so maybe a little thought before you pile on

Ariela · 20/06/2024 21:08

@footballinthepub You say you work locally therefore there is no available workspace. I suggest ask locally - and you may well be surprised. A gentleman in our road has a business space in the next door village, he allows others to use the space for very little cost, and welcomes half the village when there is a village wide broadband outing/power cut. However you have to be in the know to know as it's not advertised space - so it is worth asking about.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 20/06/2024 21:05

WhatsMyEmail · 20/06/2024 20:44

If it was my adult-aged child at home, trying to buy a house and working, I'd be supportive of their job and encourage a system to know when it's okay to come in and when not (e.g door open/closed). Of course it wouldn't be ideal but if I didn't want to live around another adult, then I shouldn't have extended the offer.

I absolutely would not be sabotaging their job.

For you OP, I'd move the desk into your bedroom and consider a lock for the door (maybe something temporary like you can buy for travelling).

This in spades, I can't actually believe some of the replies on here!

Fraa · 20/06/2024 20:59

He is being an arse, I'd work from the bedroom if you can't rent somewhere for a while.

This is giving me flashbacks of living back at home for a few months in my 20s when I was buying. Before mobiles, one phone in kitchen - trying to speak to friends for maybe 10 minutes, so closing the door for privacy. My dad would always choose to come in and be busy in the kitchen, no need for it except he hated me closing the door.

And my mum walking into my bedroom each morning to get clothes from the cupboard in there, and thinking it was ok to try and go in the bathroom while I was in the bath.

Thank fuck I could move out pretty rapidly. Zero boundaries.

Blarn · 20/06/2024 20:55

I do hope some of the people with the 'my house, my rules' way of thinking never need to move into their childrens' houses when they are very elderly.

I can't imagine my dad ever behaving like this if I was in the same situation. I would respect that I was working in his home but equally he would understand that I was at work and would knock before entering a room. But he's not an entitled arse.

eurochick · 20/06/2024 20:51

Is your mum around? Can you get her onside to get your dad back in his box?

Ottervision · 20/06/2024 20:49

CupboardTV · 20/06/2024 20:27

How long have you been back living with your parents? You say at the moment - how long has the moment lasted? I think your dad wants his house back and is impossibly a bit worried that you are not trying hard enough to move out. Want to be treated like an adult - you'll need to behave like one and prioritise getting your own place.

She is behaving like one? It's her dad acting like a petulant child.

Op clearly says she's putting offers in on flats. What else can she actually do?

WhatsMyEmail · 20/06/2024 20:44

If it was my adult-aged child at home, trying to buy a house and working, I'd be supportive of their job and encourage a system to know when it's okay to come in and when not (e.g door open/closed). Of course it wouldn't be ideal but if I didn't want to live around another adult, then I shouldn't have extended the offer.

I absolutely would not be sabotaging their job.

For you OP, I'd move the desk into your bedroom and consider a lock for the door (maybe something temporary like you can buy for travelling).

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 20/06/2024 20:43

Nah I’d have to move out. Widen your search area, look for shared places, shared ownership / I’d do whatever it took rather than live with an ignorant twerp like that. He has no respect for his own daughter all because it’s ’his House his rules’ 🤮

ohtowinthelottery · 20/06/2024 20:37

I have an adult DS living at home who changed jobs 12 months ago to one which means he now works from home virtually every day. I offered him the use of our 'office' room but he declined and said he'd work from his bedroom. I never disturb him when he is working. He shuts his door as he starts work and I only see him when he comes out for his lunch. I don't even hoover on the landing outside his room when he's working. If he'd chosen to use our office room I would have similarly kept out of the way. If, by chance, I'd needed something out of there whilst he was working I'd have messaged him to ask when I could pop in. No way would I have barged in.

Your DF clearly doesn't want you working from home but as you have very little choice until you move out then he needs to learn to put up with it.

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