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To expect my working from home to be respected

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footballinthepub · 20/06/2024 18:58

I work from home a couple of days per week. I am mid-twenties and living in my parent's house at the moment however I am actively making offers on flats. There isn't much on the market in my area and I keep getting outbid so it's been a longer process than I'd like. I also contribute money each month to the house.

I am in my first line management position. When I work from home I use the office upstairs and shut the door. My dad doesn't work and so is in and out of the house during the day. About 11am this morning, he opened the door to the office with no warning and said, "bye!" I was on a call at the time but thankfully not one where I needed to have my camera on or participate.

Later this afternoon when he came home, he walked in again unexpectedly. I asked him if he would mind not just coming in to the office when I'm working as I had literally just finished a call speaking to someone in my team about wellbeing issues they're having; given that I'm a manager my work can be about sensitive confidential topics. My dad's response was, "don't you dare. I can go where I like in my own house". I pointed out that until I can get a flat, it is my house too as I don't have anywhere else to go. He then left without shutting the door properly behind him. I got up to close it.

About 15 minutes later he burst in again to get something from the office. I protested again and he said, "it's my house. I need to be able to come in and out when I want. All I can speak for is me and what I need". I suggested that we at least discuss and come to an agreement that considers what we both need, such as him knocking the door first to check if it's ok to come in. His response was, "oh wise up!" said with derision, as though I was being ridiculous. I asked where he suggested I go to work where I won't be disturbed and he said, "I don't know, that's your lookout and for you to work out".

He is now acting as though nothing has happened and that I'm the bad one for being annoyed with him. This is always the pattern when we have a disagreement and nothing gets resolved.

AIBU to expect not to be unexpectedly disturbed when working from home?

OP posts:
Willmafrockfit · 21/06/2024 05:08

a rubber wedge seems the solution

TemuSpecialBuy · 21/06/2024 02:41

footballinthepub · 20/06/2024 19:04

We can't work in the office every day as there is not enough office space to do that. Also I live rurally so no shared workspaces here unfortunately.

Do you want to he right or do you want to get what you want?

In a reasonable world he'd leave you alone. But his house, his (bonkers) rules. Imo he is either lonely, has MH issues brewing or has had enough of you at home.

if you pay board I'd be looking to see if lodging with someone else is much more expensive.

It not, for a hundred or two pm moving out might be better especially if its only for 4- 6 months or so.

if not and you cannot accept the interuptions, i would find somewhere else to work.
If you can commute to the office on work days, you can commute to somewhere suitable on your wfh days. Maybe it's the opposite direction.
Id also consider asking your line manage if there is anyway you can work in the office ft for 6m or so

AGoingConcern · 21/06/2024 00:21

Ottervision · 20/06/2024 23:32

Like do you walk into the bathroom whilst people are sat on the loo "because it's my house" or? Where do you draw the line?

Please stop trying to draw parallels between sex crimes and interrupting conference calls. These aren't remotely in the same category, and as someone who experienced the former at the hands of older relatives it's pretty offensive when people make comparisons like that to try to land debate points in unrelated conversations.

OP has made no mention of their father disrespecting bodily autonomy or walking into places where they would likely be nude. This is a post about use of a common living area in the home.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 21/06/2024 00:16

He's being a total dick.

You need to move as he has no respect for you.

countcalculia · 20/06/2024 23:51

Change the layout of the desk so that it's facing the door and he can't be seen on the camera when he comes in to the office.

Wear headphones with a mic so that people won't hear him when you're on a call. Don't just have your laptop on loudspeaker.

Millions of people have been doing the above since March 2020, OP, you can too.

SapphireSeptember · 20/06/2024 23:48

VolvoFan · 20/06/2024 19:23

it's his house, he's being an arse for good reason. Your situation is far from ideal, but why do you get to dictate where he can go in his own house? And why should he walk in without knocking first (in his own house)?

It's got nothing to do with the fact that he's a man or that he's your dad.

It's a catch 22.

I hope you find a decent place soon so you can both live/work in peace.

Edited

Does that apply to OP's bedroom or the bathroom as well? OP has explained she has work calls that involve private information. She needs privacy for those.

nougatcougar · 20/06/2024 23:46

It might be "his house his rules" but I can't imagine a scenario where my daughter had a good job and was doing well for herself as you are, and I was not just supportive and respectful of your working space, but would be proud and pleased to be so.
Sorry your dad is an arse, I hope you find your own place soon and that you are proud of yourself for getting where you are now. You have a bright future

Ottervision · 20/06/2024 23:32

Like do you walk into the bathroom whilst people are sat on the loo "because it's my house" or? Where do you draw the line?

Ottervision · 20/06/2024 23:31

SaintVitasShagulaitas · 20/06/2024 23:29

Anyone who tried telling me which parts of my own house I could enter would very shortly be setting up their desk on the pavement.

You seriously couldn't be considerate to your own child for short periods of the day?

I just can't get over that some people actually feel like this about their own kids.

billyt · 20/06/2024 23:30

Screamingabdabz · 20/06/2024 23:20

Some very ageist posts here as per… 🙄

Insist the company provide you with a full time office space if your role requires that a retired home owner has to tip toe and be restricted in his own property.

I find it incredible that so many people think he’s the ‘arsehole’ in this situation and not wfh dictators who think the entire world should revolve around them and their job.

Hardly restricted, not like he's locked in a room and not allowed anywhere.

It's about respect.

Unfortunately, there are many arseholes who don't think WFH is actually work.

WFH dictators? Do you ever think before you post?

Idiots.

SaintVitasShagulaitas · 20/06/2024 23:29

Anyone who tried telling me which parts of my own house I could enter would very shortly be setting up their desk on the pavement.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 20/06/2024 23:27

BobbyBiscuits · 20/06/2024 23:22

Can you work from your desk in your bedroom, and lock the door? You say you live rurally but could you do some work in a quiet cafe or pub in the nearest village a few days a week? Hopefully you'll be out soon!

If part of the issue is him walking in on confidential calls, working in a pub or cafe is out.

Bedroom - depends on the size. I was in the boxroom at my parents in my late teens/early 20s, no way would even a small desk and chair have fitted in.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 20/06/2024 23:25

Having dealt with way too many blustery old arsehole men in my time, I'd assume that now he's made his point, he probably will actually take on board what you said and not interrupt you like that again. Not that he'd ever admit to being wrong.

But, having had to WFH with teens who 'forget' and barge in every now and again, I'd suggest a couple of simple measures - 1. a Teams background so nobody can see what's behind you and 2. mouse hovered over the mute button if you hear anyone moving about outside the office.

That will protect you and is a lot less disruptive to your life than some of the suggestions on here!

BobbyBiscuits · 20/06/2024 23:22

Can you work from your desk in your bedroom, and lock the door? You say you live rurally but could you do some work in a quiet cafe or pub in the nearest village a few days a week? Hopefully you'll be out soon!

Ottervision · 20/06/2024 23:21

Screamingabdabz · 20/06/2024 23:20

Some very ageist posts here as per… 🙄

Insist the company provide you with a full time office space if your role requires that a retired home owner has to tip toe and be restricted in his own property.

I find it incredible that so many people think he’s the ‘arsehole’ in this situation and not wfh dictators who think the entire world should revolve around them and their job.

Again with the tip toeing. She's asking him to not interrupt a call. Not tip toe around her.

Ageist my arse. He could be 25 and doing this and still be an inconsiderate twat and a shit parent. It's nothing to do with how old he is.

Screamingabdabz · 20/06/2024 23:20

Some very ageist posts here as per… 🙄

Insist the company provide you with a full time office space if your role requires that a retired home owner has to tip toe and be restricted in his own property.

I find it incredible that so many people think he’s the ‘arsehole’ in this situation and not wfh dictators who think the entire world should revolve around them and their job.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 20/06/2024 23:19

Shinyandnew1 · 20/06/2024 19:57

I also contribute money each month to the house.

How much are you paying?

If it’s market rent plus bills, I would ask to sit down with your dad and thrash this out-find out what the problem is (is it that he wants to be able to use his office? Is it he downs like the way you speak to him? Etc etc)

If you are paying eg £250 a month, you are onto a pretty good thing and he’s potentially thinking you’re taking the piss.

Well then OP's DF needs to talk to them about it like an adult rather than acting like an arsehole and possibly jeopardising their job if confidential info is being discussed.

UsualChaos · 20/06/2024 23:19

My dad does this in my house! Walks in unannounced and appears behind me when I'm on a call.
No respect, and doesn't seem to think that working from home is real work. Thinks it's funny when I complain.

MustBeGinOclock · 20/06/2024 23:19

Haven't read whole thread but can't you work in your room set up a little work space op?

Ottervision · 20/06/2024 23:16

Walkden · 20/06/2024 23:14

"Of course she's not paying market rent. She's living with her parents not a landlord."

Because they are doing her a favour and subsidising her living costs and from his perspective she is being a CF in response and being rather entitled. Common in a teenager but op is in their 20s

Yes, because they're her parents. That's what decent parents do? She's not being a CF at all? She's not asking him to never go in there She's asking him to not burst in mid call. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't do that for their own child no matter how old they were?

How mean and intolerant do you have to be to not be able to do that?

billyt · 20/06/2024 23:15

I agree it's your father's house.

But seriously, why does he have to be an arsehole?

My daughters sometimes choose to work from my house. I enjoy their company and presence now I'm on my own.

But I can't imagine being so nasty. If they are working I never intrude.

What a selfish person he is. Sorry.

Walkden · 20/06/2024 23:14

"Of course she's not paying market rent. She's living with her parents not a landlord."

Because they are doing her a favour and subsidising her living costs and from his perspective she is being a CF in response and being rather entitled. Common in a teenager but op is in their 20s

Ottervision · 20/06/2024 23:13

RawBloomers · 20/06/2024 23:11

I agree he’s acting badly, I said as much in my first post. I haven’t taken issue with anyone saying he’s acting badly.

I’m simply pointing out that OP may have been somewhat inconsiderate herself as well.

I don't personally think she has. But even if he thinks she has, two wrongs don't make a right. Let's hope he doesn't need ops assistance in his old age!

RawBloomers · 20/06/2024 23:11

Ottervision · 20/06/2024 22:49

I'm aware of that. It's unusual to be feel as strongly as her dad does that he can't just.... wait until her call ends.

Op is their child at the end of the day. He can be frustrated by it but there's absolutely no reason to act like such a twat. He can use his words to express his emotions like a grown up, and not act like an overgrown baby.

There isn't some weird rule that you must start acting like a tosser when your children turn 18.

I agree he’s acting badly, I said as much in my first post. I haven’t taken issue with anyone saying he’s acting badly.

I’m simply pointing out that OP may have been somewhat inconsiderate herself as well.

DexaVooveQhodu · 20/06/2024 23:09

You need to relocate your desk into your bedroom. I WFH in a bedroom - most people who WFH do so from either a bedroom or a "public" room of the house eg a dining table or kitchen. Not many families have the luxury of an "office" as a dedicated workspace-only room. You just need to arrange the furniture so that you can have a blank background behind you, or make sure you always use the greenscreen function to give you a fake background.

Aren't you being a bit unrealistic expecting to be able to afford a solo flat straight out from leaving home? Most young people live in a houseshare for a few years before they can afford a flat, and in a house share you can definitely only have your own room private.

I don't think it's reasonable to monopolise 2 rooms.

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