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footballinthepub · 20/06/2024 18:58

I work from home a couple of days per week. I am mid-twenties and living in my parent's house at the moment however I am actively making offers on flats. There isn't much on the market in my area and I keep getting outbid so it's been a longer process than I'd like. I also contribute money each month to the house.

I am in my first line management position. When I work from home I use the office upstairs and shut the door. My dad doesn't work and so is in and out of the house during the day. About 11am this morning, he opened the door to the office with no warning and said, "bye!" I was on a call at the time but thankfully not one where I needed to have my camera on or participate.

Later this afternoon when he came home, he walked in again unexpectedly. I asked him if he would mind not just coming in to the office when I'm working as I had literally just finished a call speaking to someone in my team about wellbeing issues they're having; given that I'm a manager my work can be about sensitive confidential topics. My dad's response was, "don't you dare. I can go where I like in my own house". I pointed out that until I can get a flat, it is my house too as I don't have anywhere else to go. He then left without shutting the door properly behind him. I got up to close it.

About 15 minutes later he burst in again to get something from the office. I protested again and he said, "it's my house. I need to be able to come in and out when I want. All I can speak for is me and what I need". I suggested that we at least discuss and come to an agreement that considers what we both need, such as him knocking the door first to check if it's ok to come in. His response was, "oh wise up!" said with derision, as though I was being ridiculous. I asked where he suggested I go to work where I won't be disturbed and he said, "I don't know, that's your lookout and for you to work out".

He is now acting as though nothing has happened and that I'm the bad one for being annoyed with him. This is always the pattern when we have a disagreement and nothing gets resolved.

AIBU to expect not to be unexpectedly disturbed when working from home?

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ZiriForGood · 23/06/2024 17:06

Fingers crossed that you will find something soon. In the meantime, deal with this situation as with a hard management exercise.

He is obviously unhappy about something and can't deal with it in a reasonable way.
Just expecting your WFH will be respected obviously doesn't work, so you can try some other approach instead.

footballinthepub · 23/06/2024 16:17

AquaFurball · 22/06/2024 23:19

Read the OPs post again and consider this is a mid 20s man. The verbal exchanges from OP are rude at best.

OP has a bedroom they can work from, causing grief with Dad isn't going to help. Dad can rightfully tell them it's time to go rent if they can't buy.

Anyone who frequently gets outbid for properties needs to take a look at what they are offering or check if they are just being unrealistic about what they can afford. Harsh but true.

For context on the property market in the area I'm looking, there are very few flats being put on the market in my price bracket. Any that are advertised are extremely popular.

For example, one that I made an offer on was listed on a Friday afternoon. I viewed it on the Sunday, and rang the estate agent on the Monday at 9.30am to place an offer. The EA advised me that there had been 3 offers made already that morning, including 2 from investors. One offer was already at 6% over asking price. By 9.30am the next working day after the flat was listed! I made an offer 9% over asking price but got outbid - I don't know how much more over asking price it went.

This has been the situation for most of the flats I've bid on. They were all within my budget and I would have had a 20% deposit for them.

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elessar · 23/06/2024 10:20

Yes the dad set up the desk in the office so he was happy for her to work in there, but that doesn't necessarily follow that he was agreeing to her having exclusive access to the room during the working day.

I think the OP is being precious. The dad opened the door/entered the room on three occasions. On only one of those occasions was the OP on a call, and it was one where she had her camera off and wasn't participating.

So she's getting arsey about him popping into the room on principle, on the basis that she may have been on a sensitive call. That's easily addressed by using a headset/blurred background, or taking any particularly sensitive calls in her bedroom.

She's got her dad's back up by taking the attitude that the office is her space exclusively during the day and that he ought to ask her permission to enter, when by the sounds of it, this isn't something he's agreed to. She might have got a better response by saying something like "hey dad, between 11 and 12 I've got a call with a team member about some personal issues they're having, it's quite a sensitive subject so do you mind staying out of the office for that hour, or should I take the call in my bedroom?"

It doesn't change the fundamentals of the issue, but the level to which the OP is paying rent probably does impact her dad's response to this as well. Making statements like "it's my house too as I don't have anywhere else to go" are going to be more inflammatory if she's making a fairly nominal contribution towards household expenses compared to paying full market rent.

Ottervision · 23/06/2024 08:41

AquaFurball · 22/06/2024 23:19

Read the OPs post again and consider this is a mid 20s man. The verbal exchanges from OP are rude at best.

OP has a bedroom they can work from, causing grief with Dad isn't going to help. Dad can rightfully tell them it's time to go rent if they can't buy.

Anyone who frequently gets outbid for properties needs to take a look at what they are offering or check if they are just being unrealistic about what they can afford. Harsh but true.

We have no idea of her tone. I don't think it's rude at best at all.

I take it you don't have much idea of the property market at the moment. That's incredibly normal.

GrannyRose15 · 23/06/2024 06:49

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 23/06/2024 02:00

Did you miss the part where the father set up a desk in the office for the OP?

Perhaps dad thought it would be ok at first but now doesn’t like the reality. Perhaps it has gone on for longer than he anticipated. Either way he thinks it is an imposition. OP should respect that and find another working arrangement.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 23/06/2024 02:00

GrannyRose15 · 22/06/2024 23:48

You are being very entitled. If you want privacy go to the office. It is not your parent’s job to enable your choices about working from home. It is clearly something your dad is not ok with so you shouldn’t be doing it in his house. Didn’t you talk about it before deciding to WFH?

Did you miss the part where the father set up a desk in the office for the OP?

GrannyRose15 · 22/06/2024 23:48

footballinthepub · 20/06/2024 18:58

I work from home a couple of days per week. I am mid-twenties and living in my parent's house at the moment however I am actively making offers on flats. There isn't much on the market in my area and I keep getting outbid so it's been a longer process than I'd like. I also contribute money each month to the house.

I am in my first line management position. When I work from home I use the office upstairs and shut the door. My dad doesn't work and so is in and out of the house during the day. About 11am this morning, he opened the door to the office with no warning and said, "bye!" I was on a call at the time but thankfully not one where I needed to have my camera on or participate.

Later this afternoon when he came home, he walked in again unexpectedly. I asked him if he would mind not just coming in to the office when I'm working as I had literally just finished a call speaking to someone in my team about wellbeing issues they're having; given that I'm a manager my work can be about sensitive confidential topics. My dad's response was, "don't you dare. I can go where I like in my own house". I pointed out that until I can get a flat, it is my house too as I don't have anywhere else to go. He then left without shutting the door properly behind him. I got up to close it.

About 15 minutes later he burst in again to get something from the office. I protested again and he said, "it's my house. I need to be able to come in and out when I want. All I can speak for is me and what I need". I suggested that we at least discuss and come to an agreement that considers what we both need, such as him knocking the door first to check if it's ok to come in. His response was, "oh wise up!" said with derision, as though I was being ridiculous. I asked where he suggested I go to work where I won't be disturbed and he said, "I don't know, that's your lookout and for you to work out".

He is now acting as though nothing has happened and that I'm the bad one for being annoyed with him. This is always the pattern when we have a disagreement and nothing gets resolved.

AIBU to expect not to be unexpectedly disturbed when working from home?

You are being very entitled. If you want privacy go to the office. It is not your parent’s job to enable your choices about working from home. It is clearly something your dad is not ok with so you shouldn’t be doing it in his house. Didn’t you talk about it before deciding to WFH?

AquaFurball · 22/06/2024 23:19

Ottervision · 22/06/2024 17:41

This is harsh and mostly fabricated! We have no idea what op pays, what her flat budget is, what she's offering.

Read the OPs post again and consider this is a mid 20s man. The verbal exchanges from OP are rude at best.

OP has a bedroom they can work from, causing grief with Dad isn't going to help. Dad can rightfully tell them it's time to go rent if they can't buy.

Anyone who frequently gets outbid for properties needs to take a look at what they are offering or check if they are just being unrealistic about what they can afford. Harsh but true.

Ottervision · 22/06/2024 17:41

AquaFurball · 22/06/2024 16:23

You contribute money to the house, sounds like you aren't paying a fair rent for utilies and a room imo.

It's your dad's house, your "protest" sounds very rude and disrespectful. If you have the privacy of your bedroom, then work from there. Just because your dad set up the desk in the first place didn't mean you have exclusive use of another room in his house when you feel like it.

You're a grown adult, be realistic about what you are offering if you keep getting outbid or look further afield and reduce your expectations to what you reasonably need not want. You already have the ability to WFH so a longer commute on days you have to go into the office would be the pay off.

Your dad is probably fed up of you living there and claiming you keep getting outbid, while working in a management position job and not paying full rent or bills. Depending on your other spending habits, he may also be looking at you're taking the piss and not saving everything you can.

This is harsh and mostly fabricated! We have no idea what op pays, what her flat budget is, what she's offering.

AquaFurball · 22/06/2024 16:23

footballinthepub · 20/06/2024 18:58

I work from home a couple of days per week. I am mid-twenties and living in my parent's house at the moment however I am actively making offers on flats. There isn't much on the market in my area and I keep getting outbid so it's been a longer process than I'd like. I also contribute money each month to the house.

I am in my first line management position. When I work from home I use the office upstairs and shut the door. My dad doesn't work and so is in and out of the house during the day. About 11am this morning, he opened the door to the office with no warning and said, "bye!" I was on a call at the time but thankfully not one where I needed to have my camera on or participate.

Later this afternoon when he came home, he walked in again unexpectedly. I asked him if he would mind not just coming in to the office when I'm working as I had literally just finished a call speaking to someone in my team about wellbeing issues they're having; given that I'm a manager my work can be about sensitive confidential topics. My dad's response was, "don't you dare. I can go where I like in my own house". I pointed out that until I can get a flat, it is my house too as I don't have anywhere else to go. He then left without shutting the door properly behind him. I got up to close it.

About 15 minutes later he burst in again to get something from the office. I protested again and he said, "it's my house. I need to be able to come in and out when I want. All I can speak for is me and what I need". I suggested that we at least discuss and come to an agreement that considers what we both need, such as him knocking the door first to check if it's ok to come in. His response was, "oh wise up!" said with derision, as though I was being ridiculous. I asked where he suggested I go to work where I won't be disturbed and he said, "I don't know, that's your lookout and for you to work out".

He is now acting as though nothing has happened and that I'm the bad one for being annoyed with him. This is always the pattern when we have a disagreement and nothing gets resolved.

AIBU to expect not to be unexpectedly disturbed when working from home?

You contribute money to the house, sounds like you aren't paying a fair rent for utilies and a room imo.

It's your dad's house, your "protest" sounds very rude and disrespectful. If you have the privacy of your bedroom, then work from there. Just because your dad set up the desk in the first place didn't mean you have exclusive use of another room in his house when you feel like it.

You're a grown adult, be realistic about what you are offering if you keep getting outbid or look further afield and reduce your expectations to what you reasonably need not want. You already have the ability to WFH so a longer commute on days you have to go into the office would be the pay off.

Your dad is probably fed up of you living there and claiming you keep getting outbid, while working in a management position job and not paying full rent or bills. Depending on your other spending habits, he may also be looking at you're taking the piss and not saving everything you can.

longtompot · 22/06/2024 15:32

CupboardTV · 22/06/2024 12:45

Excellent idea, I find threatening people always improves their behaviour!😆

Apologies, I didn't mean it in a threatening way, more of a factual way. Op has already been tying to find a home which has been unsuccessful and would be even more so if she doesn't have her job.

DoreenonTill8 · 22/06/2024 14:58

Ah well thats totally different!

JustMeAndTheFish · 22/06/2024 14:48

DoreenonTill8 · 22/06/2024 12:53

The stroppy and entitledness came from her stating she 'was not best pleased' with him, while accepting his hospitality and using his home as her work environment.

She didn’t say she was not best pleased. She was a bit embarrassed. The words that she was not best pleased are mine. She wouldn’t dream of saying anything upsetting to her grandad.

MdNdD · 22/06/2024 14:38

I don’t agree with the statements - it’s his house, he can come and go into the office as he pleases.

I think it seems more like he doesn’t respect your job.

one thing if he’s just a bit daft but from his response it seems like he doesn’t care.

you might have to find somewhere else to work / live. Maybe he is fed up with the situation and just wants his house back, which is fair enough I guess.

Linearforeignbody · 22/06/2024 13:16

Also, my DH works from home. He wears a headset for calls but I always knock and peep round the door in case he has his camera on!

Linearforeignbody · 22/06/2024 13:14

If the desk is yours, move it to your bedroom and work from there. If not, purchase your own desk and do the same. As others have said , if he’s still disturbing you buy a door stop.
Review what you can afford in purchasing a house and save like crazy!

Flowersandbubblegum · 22/06/2024 13:13

Ottervision · 22/06/2024 13:05

He is being deliberate obstructive though isn't he?

I don't think so, he's probably just not thinking or realising the importance of her job. It must be irritating for the OP, I get that. But even in offices it's rare to get a private room. Wear headphones, expect a little commotion here and there. It's life.

LemonMead · 22/06/2024 13:10

Your dad sounds like a disrespectful idiot, OP. His behaviour reads like a power play, and while I don’t have much advice, I really sympathise

Ottervision · 22/06/2024 13:05

Flowersandbubblegum · 22/06/2024 12:56

I think you are overreacting. They're minor things, you might be the boss at work but you're not the boss of your dad!

He's popping in and being friendly, probably not up to speed with the whole wfh way of life now.

I think you're sounding a bit entitled. He's not being deliberately obstructive. Plus I wfh and there's allowances. People understand, as they too wfh with families.

He is being deliberate obstructive though isn't he?

Flowersandbubblegum · 22/06/2024 12:56

I think you are overreacting. They're minor things, you might be the boss at work but you're not the boss of your dad!

He's popping in and being friendly, probably not up to speed with the whole wfh way of life now.

I think you're sounding a bit entitled. He's not being deliberately obstructive. Plus I wfh and there's allowances. People understand, as they too wfh with families.

DoreenonTill8 · 22/06/2024 12:53

JustMeAndTheFish · 22/06/2024 08:22

Dad is very supportive of my daughter and proud of her work. He has always had a home office/study and suggested she use it rather than the bedroom. He would be horrified if she offered to pay !
But, at the age of 95, he just really doesn’t understand the wfh concept - not does he really understand the internet and how she can simultaneously be talking to people on Georgia and Vietnam.
Entitled and stroppy? Please!

The stroppy and entitledness came from her stating she 'was not best pleased' with him, while accepting his hospitality and using his home as her work environment.

CupboardTV · 22/06/2024 12:45

longtompot · 22/06/2024 11:16

I would add that if his interruptions put your job at risk, then your house hunting will go on for even longer.

Excellent idea, I find threatening people always improves their behaviour!😆

Shinyandnew1 · 22/06/2024 12:03

I don’t know if the OP is ever coming back but I’d would be useful to clarify a few things.

Were you rude to your dad when you asked him not to just come in? Some of your comments about your dad ‘not working’ come across as a bit snippy. Is it possible that the way you said, ‘would you mind NOT interrupting me at work-I’m a manager and doing very important and confidential sensitive things?!’ got his back up and that’s why he reacted as he did? Maybe if you’d said it in a different way, he wouldn’t have reacted this way?

How much of a ‘contribution’ are you making? Market rent plus bills is very different to £100 a week! Maybe your dad is fine to poke up with you being there, taking over his office and paying minimal rent, but you being rude to him on top, was the final straw?!

Walkden · 22/06/2024 11:20

"He sounds very rude. Regardless if it's your house or not, you pay rent and tbh he's just being rude and nasty to you."

We don't know she pays rent as opposed has never clarified this. She says she makes a "contribution". For all we know this is her share of food shopping money

longtompot · 22/06/2024 11:16

T1Dmama · 22/06/2024 08:39

I would have a conversation with him when he’s calm, and you’re calm.
Just say ‘oh dad about the other day’…. Tell him you respect it’s his house and you’re just the lodger, but you do need privacy while talking to clients on the phone…. You appreciate the office is a shared space but could you both agree to knocking and waiting before entering to give each other respect and privacy…
If he’s resistant to this reasonable request then he’s just being a pig

I would add that if his interruptions put your job at risk, then your house hunting will go on for even longer.

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