6 year child - stranger talking about her penis

What would you call it?

He was getting a kick out of discussing his dick with a small girl 👧.

In no way can anyone convince me that was an innocent conversation.

“Unfortunately I do not have the guts to go to HR who as I have mentioned this government organisation is very Stonewall leaning.
My daughter will not be helped if I get it wrong and somehow mess up my career. Also as this was OUTSIDE of work (ie a social, hosted bu a colleague but not paid for by work) they could just not get involved”

Even if you’re not in the workplace and you are ‘off the clock’, if work colleagues are at an event, employment law still applies. Of course it’s up to you to decide whether or not bring the matter to the attention of your employers, but in my opinion a formal warning from your employer would be appropriate.

Talking to children about your genitals at a social event is pretty much the definition of perving. If this dodge-pot had been wearing jeans, would you report him to your manager? I bet you would.

Government departments are a lot less Stonewalled than they used to be. I am in a Government department that walked away from SW a few years back, and things are VERY different now.

Why do they need to shave their legs? I wish it was more socially acceptable for women to have body (and facial) hair tbh.

Yes that's why I'm unsure if they would still have enough male hormone to grow one. I do know one TW, but not well enough to know what surgery they have or haven't had. They definitely have 5 o'clock Shadow.

This is why it is such a red flag that the person even mentioned their penis, because its presence or absence is completely irrelevant to their identifying as a woman.

Sorry and I am sure the mn police will hang me for this, but if you have a dick you are not a woman. End of story.

If you would like to be considered as one at least have the decency to make the bloody effort to shave your beard, legs etc to make a sodding effort.

Good point. Presumably they would be on female hormones though.

Completely agree that it’s unnecessary & inappropriate.

Just thinking that the implication that they had had surgery is probably untrue. Also can’t imagine that someone who had gone through a full surgical transition would want a beard.

@Emotionalsupportviper I didn't take it that OPs colleague was 'perving' on her child. If that were the case then HR and even the police should be involved. He was inappropriate in language but that's different from perving!?

But in doing so your are following the ridiculousness that defies all logic.

This is the trans debate. Welcome!

All the Be Kind, “live and let live”, “what someone does in private” matters not a jot because this sort of thing is the bones of the issue.

If TWAW then the logical conclusion to that is men in women’s prisons/sports/rape centres etc especially when you’re definition of “what is a woman?” is “anyone who identifies as one”. You do not get to exclude some of the demographic. That’s it, that’s The Debate.

Also, he was very reductive in his definitions. It’s usually us GCers who get accused of reducing people to their genitals. A man is more than a human with a penis.

YANBU. It is completely unacceptable for a man to mention his penis to a 6 year old he doesn’t know at a work event plenty of other ways he could have described himself, no need to bring genitals into it.

It's just occurred to me that some of your colleagues may also have young children- I would have a quiet word with them if you feel able to.

Is that definitely the case?

I ask because I'm a woman (the female kind just in case you think I mean a transwoman) and I could grow a full beard if I so wished. Admittedly that's down to pcos, which transwomen can't have. But if a woman can have enough of a hormone imbalance to grow a beard, then can a TW?

I don't know there is much the police could do.
While it certainly isn't morally right I don't know that any law has been broken.

I do think Op should speak with HR and make sure they are aware not to have him at family events or just not hold family events. You don't know what he's going to do next time.

Your an adult with adult logic. A child isn't going to know that nor do they need to know that.

So we are expecting children to deny the reality of their eyes now are we?

Totally wrong. I would have gone to that person and warned them that is extremely inappropriate and next time police would be called.

If the person had had their genitalia removed then they wouldn’t have the hormones to grow a beard. Therefore I would assume they were still fully penised anyway.

Can't believe people are acting as though the problem here is the six-year-old's question.

The only scenario in which I would discuss my vagina with a six-year-old would be if they were a close family member - my own child, or perhaps a niece or nephew - and I needed to explain basic biology to them. That's it. Mentioning genitals to a child at a work event is just completely alien to me.

Do you honestly think this is something a child would make up?? Really??

Blokes in dressing 👗 it is not going to enter a child's head that man with beard may or may not still have a penis.

This. It is massively unreasonable to have said this to any child much less a child you don't know. There are a million other answers that could have been given.