6 year child - stranger talking about her penis

The way to get your head round it is to acknowledge that it is harmful nonsense and teach your children that it is harmful nonsense.

Men have penises and women have vaginas. Anyone trying to tell you otherwise is at best misguided and at worst wants to harm you.

There is nothing kind about any of this. Kind has been redefined, just as woman, female and rights have been redefined.

“This incident encapsulates this new reality. I don't like it much either! But I'm trying to get my head round it. That's all. But context and intention also matters.”

There is no context where it’s ok for a man to mention his penis to a child he has just met.

None.

There are some hard boundaries.
Not everything is relative.

I understand you are trying to negotiate a world where a significant chunk of the population is trying to renegotiate all the boundaries and you are trying to avoid being judgemental about it.

I would recommend you hold on to the wisdom you’ve acquired over your lifetime and stop pandering to children and young adults telling you you’re sooo old fashioned and just don’t understand.

Keep your head when all around you are losing theirs. Exercise discernment and wisdom. Call a spade a fucking shovel.

This was not just a man in a dress, it was a man pretending to be someone he is not- and we all know they are dangerous. This man is showing us who he is. Why not believe him?

You're far more generous in your assessment than I am

OneTC

Of course no one wants a strange man to say penis to their child - but equally this whole issue can't be reduced to this one thing IMO.

I can't say it should be illegal to say 'penis' to a child - you understand that I am trying to demonstrate neutrality. Kids are watching really horrible porn on their phones. Twitter showed images of Michael Mosley's body on the beach - these are terrible boundaries being breached and we are helpless.

This gender ideology believes that men can be women in reality. I don't believe that but through this social movement we are expected to be kind and understand the glaring contradiction of an ordinary hairy assed bloke in a dress in a garden exposing to a child he has a penis but he is also a 'lady' (whatever that means.. see David Wallisms...)

Given this new reality this man is trying to make sense of his presentation to a child. Clueless and offensive.

Children were always taught - men and boys have penises and women have breasts, vaginas and have the potential to have babies.

This incident encapsulates this new reality. I don't like it much either! But I'm trying to get my head round it. That's all. But context and intention also matters.

Also @Allshallbewell2021 i still don't understand why you think it's acceptable or even necessary for women/children's rights and needs to be compromised for men who like to wear dresses.

It seems perfectly straightforward to me. We accept men expressing themselves how they like - without confusing the issue with any suggestion that this gives them rights to women's spaces or leeway to talk about their genitalia to children.

This bloke aside (because bringing genitalia into a conversation with a child is obviously not right), but a man wearing a dress isn’t necessarily a fetish or sex related. Men are allowed to wear whatever clothes they like, just as women are.

We need people who believe in biological reality to bring the cultural space back into their comfort zone, not just accept that society believes women can have penises now.

As a person who was sexually abused as a child by a family friend - believe me - I do not want to destroy child safeguarding!

Yet by suggesting that men in a dress be treated in some different way to men not in a dress with regard to public conduct - you are doing that. Whether you realise it or not.

No, in the exact same scenario – a child asked a trousered male-presenting man (or however you wish to phrase it) why a transgender person was wearing a dress and came out with the same answer – I would also have the same opinion.

All shall be well said she'd feel more understanding of a bloke in a dress talking about his dick to a child rather than a bloke in trousers talking about his dick to a child because one's a quirky paradox and one's a deviant sex pest.

Pull the other one

Literally no one has said it was OK. No one is standing up for this right.

I do believe in biological reality and that woman means biological woman - but I also believe that the cultural space has shifted out of my comfort zone and I am working with that reality.

As a person who was sexually abused as a child by a family friend - believe me - I do not want to destroy child safeguarding! We didn't have that when I was little.

I am not condoning any abuse, exploitation, or even bad behavior.

I am only acknowledging that the people I deal with are individuals and I am trying to work with the mix of people in this complex new cultural world. The innocent and the bad intentioned are all mixed up in this. Just like in life and politics. I don't defend the bad but I can see there are perfectly innocent men in dresses who don't say penis to children.

As long as I'm not aligning myself with someone who uses the word 'pervert' as a blanket statement to cover one characteristic, I'm good thanks.

Yup!

I'm really intrigued by pp assertion that inclusivity requires victimising people and hope they expand on that.

It's ... quite something 😵‍💫

Well said!

I cannot believe this is a hill any woman would choose to die on, and yet here we are!

I hope all the posters standing up for men's rights to talk about their penis to little girls are proud of themselves.

Shame you're not on my keyboard, I guess? I'll write exactly as I wish to and you will have to deal with it – suck to be you, I guess.

Well yes, but I'm not allowed to say things like that. I get ticked off. I appreciate you filling in the gaps though.

Andrew Gold discusses how he met a woman in Germany who works with men who admit they are attracted to children but don't act on it. So to prove her faith in them she lets them babysit her own children

Jesus. I despair

Have you spoken to the people whose party it was?

I'm willing to believe that @Allshallbewell2021 has simply been a bit bamboozled by all the 'inclusivity' narratives and has boxed herself into arguments that she hasn't fully thought through. Hopefully she doesn't ultimately believe that the vulnerable in society need to suffer more so that men can push the boundaries of what society accepts.

I hope that's the case anyway.