6 year child - stranger talking about her penis

"It would be in keeping with transphobic behaviour to invent a story about a transwoman taking to a child about their genitalia."
Misgendering that stunning and brave woman who only wanted to talk to a little girl about his penis.

I would report that creep to HR department if he was a colleague. Or complain to HR that your child was approached by a creep talking to her about his genitals.

I agree with you ... she could have left it at the I was born a man part. You should have said something. You'd be canceled in a heartbeat if you mis gendered this person so someone needs to speak to her about how we speak to kids. Excuse me miss.. we don't speak to kids like that!!!!!

Why would you need to be sensitive towards some creep who is trying to corrupt your child?

If this wasn't a transwoman (man in a dress), but just some creepy bloke perving on your small daughter, would you worry about being "sensitive"?

@Verv

except he wasn't talking ABOUT his penis, just that he has a 'willy'. I agree it was unnecessary, but there's no need to make it sound worse than it was.

You've either tagged me by mistake or you've misunderstood one of my posts- I am entirely in agreement with you, as my posts on this thread will demonstrate.

I think the implication is MN posters make up stuff to paint TW in a bad light.

The truth is, while lots of TW are not predators, there are enough true stories out there that we don't need to make stuff up.

People think you are making it up because Mumsnet is a well known haven for those with gender critical views. Some believe that Mumsnet is transphobic. It would be in keeping with transphobic behaviour to invent a story about a transwoman taking to a child about their genitalia.

Edit: I believe you.

I do wonder if he was hoping that she'd ask whether he still had a willy or not 😳

@IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine - who cares what language this man would use to himself as. He’s a predator who spoke about his penis to a six year old child.

It’s morally repugnant. This man wants attention and is clearly doing it to get off sexually.

There’s zero reason for him to mention his penis to a six year old child.

And he’s not a woman - he doesn’t even bother to pass as a woman.

OP - if this was a work event I would be making a formal complaint about a man with a beard wearing a dress spoke with your six year old child about his penis.

Yes to this

Adults are not helping children when they are told to disbelieve their eyes and ears

The trans thing is a complete red herring as it isn't OK for any adult to be talking about their genitals to a 6yr old child.

If it was at a work event then I'd have thought HR would be your first point of call.

During interviews with a risk assessor, Miller, who previously ran a butcher’s shop, “even attempted to place responsibility on [his victim]”, the judge said. “You told the assessor you went into business mode, ‘trying to think of a plan’.”

What a horrendous case.

I have no doubt that Miller did victim blame, but I don’t think the journalist has explained it very well, as I don’t understand how that statement to the risk assessor is “victim blaming”?

This ⬆

In spades

There is nothing "rude" about a child asking a man why he is wearing a dress.

It's natural curiosity.

If I went out wearing (say) horns or angel wings, and a child asked me why, would that be rude? Of course not. The child sees something unusual and comments on it and is curious about it.

Stop telling children they should ignore their instincts about who is male and who is female. Those instincts could keep them safe some day, Curiosity should be encouraged. Yes - good manners are important, but it is not bad manners to seek the truth.

Edit for mistype

This post just doesn't sound right to me!

Indeed, but a TW would never want to admit that pretty dresses are 'for everyone 'because want they want is for us to STFU and go along with the charade that they are a woman.

Absolute tosh. People (particularly women, and from an early age) are taught to ignore their instincts, to their detriment. If anything we should be encouraging little girls who sense that something is out of the ordinary, and question it.

It's nothing like a disability: it's a perverted attention-seeking man. The child sensed something was wrong and, guess what, she was proved right immediately by him showing himself to be the kind of man who refers to his penis to a six year-old girl! So you can hardly use that as evidence that she was in the wrong.

I don't really see how you could be accused of sounding like a wanker by stating that someone who tried to rape your friends is a predator!

Here's the Guardian version for those with an aversion to the DM.

Victim blaming was an aggravating factor according to the judge so perhaps those who say OP's daughter was rude should think again about who the transgressor is here.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/18/paedophile-who-abducted-schoolgirl-while-dressed-as-a-woman-jailed-for-20-years