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Terrorists' vandalising Stone Henge and trying to force govt policy

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FoxJTT047101111 · 19/06/2024 19:58

We need the security services to shut the group down when they are carrying out what can be described as terrorist methods to influence govt policy.

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MissTrip82 · 19/06/2024 21:27

Can’t understand the people ‘turned off the cause’ by this.
Surely nobody of normal intelligence stops seeing the evidence on climate change because of the actions of a handful of people? That would be truly foolish behaviour.

Buryyiirwhat · 19/06/2024 21:25

‘Terrorism’? Get a grip. You clearly have t experienced real terrorism.

SnowDiaries · 19/06/2024 21:24

Just Stop Oil's German equivalent also claimed that the orange paint they sprayed on the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin would 'just wash off in the rain'. It didn't. Cleaning the porous sandstone took three months, costing €140k of taxpayer's money.

Allfur · 19/06/2024 21:24

Soukmyfalafel · 19/06/2024 20:59

They are dicks, but they are not terrorists, not in the way most people view what a terroist is. Unless you can terrorise stones.

Maybe the stones were petrified!

goody2shooz · 19/06/2024 21:23

I’m interested in how they all got there, carrying these large canisters. Bike? Pony and trap? Anyone know? Don’t believe they all live very locally…..

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/06/2024 21:23

They’re a lot less destructive than oil companies and their controversial and headline-grabbing actions help bring this urgent issue to the top of the agenda.

Now we can all read this for example and see if we’re still happy calling orange cornstarch “terrorism”:

“ We were eating, drinking, breathing the oil”

‘We were eating, drinking, breathing the oil’: the villagers who stood up to big oil – and won

The fossil fuel industry faces a reckoning in the Niger Delta after disasters made it one of the most polluted places on the planet

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2022/jun/01/oil-pollution-spill-nigeria-shell-lawsuit?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Toetouchingtitties · 19/06/2024 21:22

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/06/2024 21:05

Dumb argument. Are you saying we can only question ecocide and mass extinction if we first 100% cleanse ourselves of all fossil fuels and derivatives?

I have:

  • Divested my pension
  • Divested my savings
  • Fitted solar and batteries
  • Switched to agile renewables
  • Replaced my diesel with EV
  • Stopped eating beef
  • Cut flights

It’s a good start, there’s lots more to do, I’m working on it !

No, I’m not. But judging by what you’ve been able to do, you’re clearly not living in fuel poverty.

I don’t disagree that changes need to be made to energy supplies - I don’t think very many people are in the camp of let’s do nothing.

But, it has to be sustainably done, funded, planned, the technology developed, people in fuel poverty protected (most important).

Potentially damaging things, causing traffic hotspots, potentially risking lives is childish behaviour.

Feel free to throw yourself under a horse - there would be a lot of concern for the horses welfare; but I suspect not much change in oil production.

UnbelievableLie · 19/06/2024 21:19

They are so good at putting people off their mission, they might as well be on oil companies payroll.......

Gakpo · 19/06/2024 21:15

They really are fucking annoying, and I say that as someone who sympathises with a lot of elements of their cause.

That said, I did like the unintended comedy of the recent attack on the Magna Carta (or maybe that was someone else).

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2024 21:13

KimberleyClark · 19/06/2024 20:04

Stonehenge really should be off limits for these people. It represents the most remote human past of these islands.

Well, that and Reform

Takoneko · 19/06/2024 21:12

Non-violent direct action, even when it involves civil disobedience and minor property damage (which this is as it’s reversible) is not terrorism, not even under the UK legal definition, which is broader than in many places.

I personally don’t think it’s an effective strategy and disagree with them but calling it terrorism is not accurate. I can see why posters from NI would object so strongly to that false equivalence.

Luminousalumnus · 19/06/2024 21:12

Allfur · 19/06/2024 20:12

Whilst the world burns, you're worried about a bit of paint on some old rocks, and I love stone henge

No. I'm worried that wankers like these are what people think of when they consider climate change. Have they ever converted anyone to their point of view? They appear stupid, privileged and out of touch. They make it easier for people to dismiss climate change. Are you sure they are not being financed by oil companies?

Gladanotthwrteamonesomething · 19/06/2024 21:11

Vandals and yobs.

Damage to heritage, art, disruption everywhere.

Arrest and lock up.

Basically they are just twats, who on earth supports them.

Fireyflies · 19/06/2024 21:11

User3962 · 19/06/2024 21:04

Anyone who’s bothered about this vandalism has no idea the vandalism and destruction fossil fuel driven climate change is doing and will do.

Our governments are ignoring the science because they’re in the pockets of the fossil fuel industry.

That's just conspiracy bollocks. Governments the world over are doing masses to try to combat climate change, as is industry - around half our electricity in the UK is now from renewables. Yes, you can argue that we should go faster. We could make harsher compromises against other agendas (spending money on health, education, defence, etc) But the idea that anyone is going to respond to paint being thrown by thinking "oh, people are really angry, we need to do X differently" is batshit crazy!

And governments of other countries responsible for deforestation, etc are going to stop because vandals throw paint in England???? Why would they?

Luxell934 · 19/06/2024 21:11

Stonehenge is beautiful and all, but when it’s all under water it will be irrelevant.

AngeloMysterioso · 19/06/2024 21:11

Oh come on, let’s not play fast and loose with the word terrorists. They didn’t blow anything up or destroy anything, or harm anybody, they chucked some brightly coloured powder at some (yes, I know, very important and sacred) old rocks.

To call it terrorism is to seriously downgrade genuine acts of terror. Nobody is terrorised by these twerps, they’re (mostly) just inconvenienced and pissed off.

Viscoelasticity · 19/06/2024 21:09

They’re not terrorists and they’ve damaged nothing. The colour was cornflower and will wash off in the rain.

They are desperately trying to draw attention to the fact we are destroying the world and rendering greater vandalism on the Earth every day!

Getting upset about Stone Henge? How do you think the South Pacific Islanders feel knowing their homes will soon completely disappear forever?

How do you feel about the Arctic disappearing along with its wealth of wildlife going extinct?

How did you feel watching Australia burn? What about famine and drought and woldwide food shortages?

Still bothered by a bit of orange flour on stonehenge? You need to sort your priorities out.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/06/2024 21:05

Toetouchingtitties · 19/06/2024 20:54

And what are you using that enables you to write on this post? Something made with oil derivatives and probably energised by the same?

Dumb argument. Are you saying we can only question ecocide and mass extinction if we first 100% cleanse ourselves of all fossil fuels and derivatives?

I have:

  • Divested my pension
  • Divested my savings
  • Fitted solar and batteries
  • Switched to agile renewables
  • Replaced my diesel with EV
  • Stopped eating beef
  • Cut flights

It’s a good start, there’s lots more to do, I’m working on it !

Totallymessed · 19/06/2024 21:05

User3962 · 19/06/2024 21:04

Anyone who’s bothered about this vandalism has no idea the vandalism and destruction fossil fuel driven climate change is doing and will do.

Our governments are ignoring the science because they’re in the pockets of the fossil fuel industry.

How is this going to improve the situation?

Harvestfestivalknickers · 19/06/2024 21:05

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/06/2024 21:00

How did throwing themselves under a horse, carrying out bombings and arson attacks win women the vote ?

Sometimes it takes more than polite petitions.

So minimal effort then. Nothing positive involving too much effort. Let's go for easy targets, after all Stonehenge has such a large environmental footprint. Attention seeking Idiots.
If you're not helping to find a solution, you're part of the problem.

User3962 · 19/06/2024 21:04

Anyone who’s bothered about this vandalism has no idea the vandalism and destruction fossil fuel driven climate change is doing and will do.

Our governments are ignoring the science because they’re in the pockets of the fossil fuel industry.

cupcaske123 · 19/06/2024 21:04

BoobyDazzler · 19/06/2024 21:02

Who are “they”?

Just Stop Oil. Eco warriors and now everyone is talking about them.

Londonrach1 · 19/06/2024 21:02

This today lost them their cause!

BoobyDazzler · 19/06/2024 21:02

Who are “they”?

Bluevelvetsofa · 19/06/2024 21:01

They might be damaging things, but those things have an impact on people , so it’s disingenuous to say it’s a bit of lichen on stone and doesn’t matter.

Clearly, it’s far more than that. It’s a group of people damaging things that affect other people, just because they can. They’ve had a significant negative impact on people’s lives, by preventing them from going about their daily lives, by ruining art, celebrations and part of the historical fabric of this country and we are all paying for it one way or another.

They should be held to account, but I don’t suppose they will.