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Terrorists' vandalising Stone Henge and trying to force govt policy

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FoxJTT047101111 · 19/06/2024 19:58

We need the security services to shut the group down when they are carrying out what can be described as terrorist methods to influence govt policy.

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wellington77 · 20/06/2024 00:15

Totally agree. Even Greta Thunberg has said that how these people protest actually harms the cause because everyone just gets angry with them and then view the cause in a negative light. All publicity is good publicity is a load of bollocks- it’s actually made me switch off to their concerns as I just can’t respect these people

Apolloneuro · 19/06/2024 23:59

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/06/2024 21:00

How did throwing themselves under a horse, carrying out bombings and arson attacks win women the vote ?

Sometimes it takes more than polite petitions.

This is where I have mixed feelings. I don’t like what they’re doing, but am grateful those brave women took action on my behalf, a 100 years ago.

Sometimes adverse actions are needed?

To compare them to the Taliban is ridiculous, even by mumsnet standards.

Mummy2024 · 19/06/2024 23:18

Cooper77 · 19/06/2024 22:47

You can make your point without damaging historic buildings or works of art. Those imbeciles who slashed an 18th-century painting should have been sent to prison for five years. A work of art, or a historic building, is irreplaceable. You can’t make a new stone henge, or a new Monet painting. Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever. Why not smash up some rich oil baron’s Mercedes instead?

Absolutely correct

Harvestfestivalknickers · 19/06/2024 23:17

Lopine · 19/06/2024 22:58

Well it’s been a conversation starter. It’s making people on this thread and beyond talk about their position on climate change and their views on the protesters.

It's certainly getting people to talk about their views on the protestors. Talking about their position on climate change .....less so.

Mummy2024 · 19/06/2024 23:15

voiceofastar · 19/06/2024 23:14

Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever.

Well, quite. Orangutans are critically endangered and expected to become extinct by 2029, largely because of the demand for palm oil. Once they’re gone, they’re gone forever. I don’t understand the outrage over a painting or Stonehenge. Yes, they’re beautiful things, but so are the things being destroyed by human activities every day which for some reason don’t provoke such strong emotions.

Perfect response and absolutely correct aswell

Oops wrong post attached lol although i do agree with the sentiment there's only 1 earth too however this is not the way to deal with the situation. It's criminal

voiceofastar · 19/06/2024 23:14

Cooper77 · 19/06/2024 22:47

You can make your point without damaging historic buildings or works of art. Those imbeciles who slashed an 18th-century painting should have been sent to prison for five years. A work of art, or a historic building, is irreplaceable. You can’t make a new stone henge, or a new Monet painting. Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever. Why not smash up some rich oil baron’s Mercedes instead?

Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever.

Well, quite. Orangutans are critically endangered and expected to become extinct by 2029, largely because of the demand for palm oil. Once they’re gone, they’re gone forever. I don’t understand the outrage over a painting or Stonehenge. Yes, they’re beautiful things, but so are the things being destroyed by human activities every day which for some reason don’t provoke such strong emotions.

blablasmthsmth · 19/06/2024 23:12

GreigeO · 19/06/2024 21:53

LOL at everyone tutting over disrespecting the witches!

I don't get what's funny about posters bringing up the significance of stone henge to people with different beliefs?

cupcaske123 · 19/06/2024 23:10

I'm wondering what on earth they were going to do with the Magna Carta.

Gingerdancedbackwards · 19/06/2024 23:07

FoxJTT047101111 · 19/06/2024 20:07

I understand your point but the view of Lord Carlile of Berriew Q.C

"“The use of serious violence against persons or property, or threat to use such violence, to intimidate or coerce a government, the public or any section of the public, in order to promote political, social or ideological objectives.”

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7b9cb240f0b62826a04b08/7052.pdf

Spraying a stone with dyed cornstarch is hardley serious violence, ergp noy an act of terrorism, not terrorists.
Arseholes yes, terrorists, no

XChrome · 19/06/2024 23:03

FoxJTT047101111 · 19/06/2024 20:07

I understand your point but the view of Lord Carlile of Berriew Q.C

"“The use of serious violence against persons or property, or threat to use such violence, to intimidate or coerce a government, the public or any section of the public, in order to promote political, social or ideological objectives.”

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7b9cb240f0b62826a04b08/7052.pdf

Violence is only possible against living beings, not objects.

The WHO definition works better;

"Violence is defined by the World Health Organization in the WRVH as “the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, that either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation.

This definition emphasises that a person or group must intend to use force or power against another person or group in order for an act to be classified as violent."

Mummy2024 · 19/06/2024 23:02

FoxJTT047101111 · 19/06/2024 19:58

We need the security services to shut the group down when they are carrying out what can be described as terrorist methods to influence govt policy.

I think using the word terrorist Is quite frankly hysterical and also an insult to terror victims.

We are all outraged, the ruining of the king portrait and now stone henge along with the many other ridiculous and valdalous crimes committed. Something should be done quite frankly jail time is required to put a stop to this once and for all but please keep things in perspective.

cupcaske123 · 19/06/2024 23:01

LimeandCourgette · 19/06/2024 22:56

Several years on and I'm still waiting for the Extinction Rebellion symbols that were sprayed on with paint that will 'just wash off in the rain' to actually wash off.

They used cornflour powder that didn't come of? Well that's a concern.

Lopine · 19/06/2024 22:58

Harvestfestivalknickers · 19/06/2024 22:55

But does it being top of the news make people think 'stop oil' or does it makes them think 'wankers'?

Well it’s been a conversation starter. It’s making people on this thread and beyond talk about their position on climate change and their views on the protesters.

LimeandCourgette · 19/06/2024 22:56

cupcaske123 · 19/06/2024 20:16

I believe so. It's powder paint.

Several years on and I'm still waiting for the Extinction Rebellion symbols that were sprayed on with paint that will 'just wash off in the rain' to actually wash off.

1ittlegreen · 19/06/2024 22:56

Whilst I don't disagree with the cause, I'm fuming that they desicrated a religious structure around Litha/Solstice.

Had they done this to a church at Easter, there would have been outcry.

How dare they ruin this sacred place for us? The rain water will never wash off all the orange particles.

Sp I no longer support them. Dickheads.

cupcaske123 · 19/06/2024 22:55

Fireyflies · 19/06/2024 22:41

Stone henge is a henge made of stones. The field 400+ meters away from it is not stone henge.

It's called the Stone Henge World Heritage Site. Planning Inspectorate officials said that the tunnel would cause “permanent, irreversible harm” to the area. Despite that, the government gave it the go ahead. The area is of great archeological significance and shouldn't be touched. That's why the decision was challenged.

Harvestfestivalknickers · 19/06/2024 22:55

But does it being top of the news make people think 'stop oil' or does it makes them think 'wankers'?

SammyScrounge · 19/06/2024 22:54

Blackcats7 · 19/06/2024 20:02

Whilst I don’t think their methods are right I don’t agree that they are terrorists. They target things not people.

In the early days of these 'actions ',I recall an ambulance on an emergency call being blocked and these terrorists refusing to let it pass their blockade. Someone very ill was in that ambulance. I'd say that person was targeted by terrorists.
What made it worse was the nauseating self-righteousness they displayed in a TV interview. These morons were loving the attention.o

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/06/2024 22:51

Cooper77 · 19/06/2024 22:47

You can make your point without damaging historic buildings or works of art. Those imbeciles who slashed an 18th-century painting should have been sent to prison for five years. A work of art, or a historic building, is irreplaceable. You can’t make a new stone henge, or a new Monet painting. Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever. Why not smash up some rich oil baron’s Mercedes instead?

Ecosystems are also irreplaceable. When people hear about catastrophic habitat loss they don’t care, don’t listen. Spray cornstarch on a rock and it’s top of the news.

WhatANiceNewWord · 19/06/2024 22:51

Don't think they exactly induced terror...

Cooper77 · 19/06/2024 22:47

You can make your point without damaging historic buildings or works of art. Those imbeciles who slashed an 18th-century painting should have been sent to prison for five years. A work of art, or a historic building, is irreplaceable. You can’t make a new stone henge, or a new Monet painting. Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever. Why not smash up some rich oil baron’s Mercedes instead?

Hibernating80 · 19/06/2024 22:45

I haven't read the article yet, but I just wonder, out of interest, what are posters doing to help tackle climate change?

saoirse31 · 19/06/2024 22:44

Disgusting thing to do.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/06/2024 22:42

Everysand · 19/06/2024 22:28

So you don’t need a car then

Why not ?