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Terrorists' vandalising Stone Henge and trying to force govt policy

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FoxJTT047101111 · 19/06/2024 19:58

We need the security services to shut the group down when they are carrying out what can be described as terrorist methods to influence govt policy.

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KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:36

Goldenbear · 20/06/2024 07:34

What’s your objection then, are you a ‘witch’, a Daily Express journalist or Climate Change Denier?

Are there only three options?
So you're getting personal - I'm not going to lower myself by doing the same.
My point is that I wouldn't mock women who choose to live or worship in an alternative way.

FluffyJellyCat · 20/06/2024 07:35

I'm a environmentalist and unfortunately I agree. They are getting more extreme. I was surprised they are allowed to promote this on twitter, but that is now as sess pit of harmful content so I shouldn't be surprised.

Would you like justice for fathers or the badger Trust throwing paint at the tate? Because it's setting a bar

Goldenbear · 20/06/2024 07:34

KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:30

You can "lol", but have a look at what has happened to women who were healers or wise women or didn't worship in a conventional way.
If a woman chooses to call herself a witch, participate in rituals, that's her choice.

What’s your objection then, are you a ‘witch’, a Daily Express journalist or Climate Change Denier?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 20/06/2024 07:33

GreigeO · 19/06/2024 21:53

LOL at everyone tutting over disrespecting the witches!

Well, we witches are pretty used to it - inured you might say.

And this witch is old and weary of a world that thinks the idea "and harm ye none" is radical and dangerous if you're wearing stripey tights and a pointed hat.

Paganism is based on living in harmony with the world and nature so JSO have just scored a massive own goal by alienating a good chunk of people with similar values to their own.

I bet they thought "Oh it's just a bunch of old stones - no harm no foul" and have actually sod all knowledge of the particular eco-system around this site such as the lichen. I suppose they could argue that Solstice revellers are just as damaging in their way, however, the events are controlled (I know from experience that prohibited items - including umbrellas - are removed on entry) and it is a site of spiritual significance. So how they managed to do this is concerning.

My teeny tiny tinfoil witch hat does wonder about how such groups are able to pull these stunts when mere mortals are patted down and surveilled regularly going about their business. Is it smoke and mirrors or bread and circuses?

And the implication of this kind of thing on the right to peaceful protest is concerning.

Had these immature attention seeking infants spoken to the movers and shakers on the Solstice front, they could have had a rather better bit of publicity - a whole bunch of people coming together and incorporating concern for the planet with an energetic and spiritual thrust that really reflects the respect for the planet that they profess to have.

It's supposed to be a symbiosis, our existence here, because everything is connected. Not a turf war.

But you never know - perhaps the threefold law will work its charm.

It's just sad though isn't it?

KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:30

GreigeO · 19/06/2024 21:53

LOL at everyone tutting over disrespecting the witches!

You can "lol", but have a look at what has happened to women who were healers or wise women or didn't worship in a conventional way.
If a woman chooses to call herself a witch, participate in rituals, that's her choice.

5475878237NC · 20/06/2024 07:30

Singersong · 20/06/2024 07:21

They are absolutely idiotic and so is their cause. That's why they can't answer a single question with anything other than "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE".

That's simply not true. They are backed up by the scientific evidence that we have a few years left before the tipping point is reached so it really is as urgent as that. Not for you, or many in the West, which is the issue really.

KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:28

RavenclawWitchy · 19/06/2024 21:48

Summer Solstice is tomorrow. Hundreds of Pagans and Wiccans will be visiting Stonehenge as a place of religious worship. This is the very reason JSO chose this target.
No different than vandalising a mosque the day before Eid or a church on Christmas Eve.

Excellent point 👍

NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/06/2024 07:28

KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:25

Pollution free, they are not.
They used to be great, however, they are now too expensive and unreliable.

They're certainly better when there isn't some knob on a final salary pension superglue to the roof when you have to get to work, that's for sure.

Singersong · 20/06/2024 07:27

Allfur · 20/06/2024 07:23

Trains are great

Oh yes they're wonderful. They cause 0 emissions and they're never late or on strike. And of course accessible to everyone.

loudbatperson · 20/06/2024 07:26

GreigeO · 19/06/2024 21:53

LOL at everyone tutting over disrespecting the witches!

How to make it obvious you know nothing about the topic you are mocking.

KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:25

Allfur · 20/06/2024 07:23

Trains are great

Pollution free, they are not.
They used to be great, however, they are now too expensive and unreliable.

Allfur · 20/06/2024 07:23

KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:20

You're allowed to drive a car.
Do you never use a car or any form of similar transport?

Trains are great

Singersong · 20/06/2024 07:22

Allfur · 20/06/2024 07:18

I'd be more raging at the thousands of cars that drive by it every day

How do you get about then?

KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:22

I do wonder what would happen if they did similar at a mosque, church, temple etc.
Some faiths don't seem to get the same respect.

Singersong · 20/06/2024 07:21

They are absolutely idiotic and so is their cause. That's why they can't answer a single question with anything other than "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE".

KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:20

Allfur · 20/06/2024 07:18

I'd be more raging at the thousands of cars that drive by it every day

You're allowed to drive a car.
Do you never use a car or any form of similar transport?

SocoBateVira · 20/06/2024 07:19

Allfur · 20/06/2024 07:16

Its about the sun - Surely a bit of orange paint won't change any thing, people of all sorts of faiths worship in all sorts of conditions

Are you a pagan? I'm not, so I was going to start with listening to what the people who are pagans and do gather at Stonehenge have to say.

Allfur · 20/06/2024 07:18

Barefootsally · 20/06/2024 06:45

I was absolutely raging when I watched this. I hope they get a jail sentence

I'd be more raging at the thousands of cars that drive by it every day

KatyaKabanova · 20/06/2024 07:17

It's not the Methodist Church on the high street.

Allfur · 20/06/2024 07:16

Theremedy · 20/06/2024 06:17

This is incredibly disrespectful.

Paganism is a religious belief that goes back to a time of prehistory. It symbolises polytheism and many ancient beliefs. Many of which still remain, anyone who’s ever eaten an Easter egg or had a Christmas tree is partaking in sacred ancient rituals that have been handed down through generations of humans, adapting the symbolic meanings as time passes.

Many people, who still hold those ancient beliefs of being one with the earth and its seasons, were due to meet and celebrate at one of the very few remaining places on earth that our ancestors also celebrated at.

Do you not understand the significance of being able to stand where our ancestors stood, to watch the same sun rise and set over the same point over the same monument? Do you think that sullying it and its significance the day before solstice is ok? And to laugh and call them “witches”?

Its about the sun - Surely a bit of orange paint won't change any thing, people of all sorts of faiths worship in all sorts of conditions

Tryingtokeepgoing · 20/06/2024 07:09

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Though there are some rare, and possibly unique, lichens on the stones that could have been damaged by either the dye or the techniques that will have to be used to remove the staining. Since the stage is unlikely to just ‘come off in the rain’ due to the nature of the dye and porosity of the lichen/stones

Abhannmor · 20/06/2024 06:58

It looked awful on tv. But itis just harmless powder. Counterproductive stunts won't save the planet however.

Barefootsally · 20/06/2024 06:45

I was absolutely raging when I watched this. I hope they get a jail sentence

SocoBateVira · 20/06/2024 06:42

Reminds me of that viral tweet a few years ago. It said people would be wise to make sure their protests are different from what psyops sent to discredit their cause would do. Basically, don't be so howlingly stupid that you'll have people thinking you've been infiltrated by the fossil fuel industry.

5475878237NC · 20/06/2024 06:25

cupcaske123 · 19/06/2024 20:16

I believe so. It's powder paint.

Because of this I actually think it's an incredibly effective way to draw to the public's attention that the government continue to fail to be held to account on the climate crisis. Unfortunately the masses just don't care.

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