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Insufferable situation with DP

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DaisyG20 · 19/06/2024 18:46

NC for this.

I've been with my partner for nearly 7 years, we got together when my DD was 3 and we've since had 2 more children DS5 and DS7weeks.

Over the last 3-4 years I've felt like he completely sat back and left everything to me. He's become lazy, selfish, moody, miserable and it's got to the point I can't stand the sight of him. Not helped by the fact he lost his job just before I had baby in April, and no sign of getting another job. So I'm currently paying for everything out of my mat leave and savings. He has no income coming in at all but is borrowing money for his essentials from his parents. He says he's enjoying being off with the kids as he's always worked full time and missed out on our older DS being newborn as he worked full time. When he was working, I was still doing all the life admin and covering kids illness etc as he’d never come out of work for emergencies.

All he does, all day, is sit and play Xbox games. He picks up the older 2 from school and that's it, he avoids doing anything for the baby and becomes visibly anxious if he's left with the baby as he only settled for me and he doesn't like his gaming interrupted.

I know people will say this is my fault for having another baby, but he was contributing at the time and i didn't foresee him losing his job and laying about all day. He never leaves the house, has no friends, no money, doesn't drive, cba doing anything with the kids so I feel like I have 4 kids.

I desperately want to end things, but I'm suffering with postpartum anxiety and struggling myself so I feel like I'm just keeping the peace at the moment so I have help, I've mentally told myself I'll end it once the baby is a bit older but I can't wait that long and feel like I'm close to exploding.

We're on completely different paths in life, and he's dragging me down. He has nowhere to go if he leaves which makes me feel guilty and I'm worried about what the kids will think. Nor do I think he will leave, we've had this conversation many times and he promises change that never comes. I know I'm spineless.

Has anyone got any advice? My heads a mess and I'm highly emotional so may not be thinking clearly but I don't know how much more I can take, I may be causing myself more stress

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ForTaupeJoker · 17/11/2024 10:54

I totally sympathise about that feeling u got about his behaviour financially but immaturity can make us blind to these areas. Although it may be true that he has been spoiled by his mum that can be just as life damaging as strictness because he is in danger of losing the adult life he does have over essentially his character flaw. I would try and say to myself - I'm going to treat us both as needing help with the depression factor, because although it looks like he is enjoying doing little he may just be depressed. Right now you have a second adult in the house and picking up children at school is a huge deal because it can't be flexible and it's literally child-safety. Financial stress makes us relate to each other in negative ways. You are the expert on your partner here. You can ignore how others see him and instead try a Hobson's Choice (it's a very old film) option. Only you know what's best for you but if you think about it he is not ambitious can mean he is relaxing to be around? Could you watch a game or two with him and go with that and seek him out emotionally? Praise his looks. Just a little bit. Make sure he is not suicidal. He is not a 'cocklodger' he is your guy and you and he made two children together - many an 'ambitious man' can nag woman to go out and buy the correct ingredients for meal to impress visitors - layabout is not all bad! He's guarding the homestead. Also: Relate could be a place for you both to talk things through - don't be having hard talks at home. U r both new mum and dad and presumably he's been an ok step dad to your first dad. I may be wrong but I sense you have as your main enemies depression and tiredness and finances. Try a little strategy and be telling him how you love that you can count on him to always be there. That's what I'd try anyway with a weather-eye on what his and your children need of course. Continuity and close contact with him is a good thing. If a person is a young depressed father who's never been guided to how to adult, they are never deserving of insulting terms (even if we might think than in our stressed moments). Also - access days for him seeing your shared children where u do be able to prevent them being taken out with his future possible new partner and/,or child(ren)plus single-parenting (which I'm sure u would cope with)but it is a lot for children to get their self esteem round ie something to avoid? Hope my cents worth helps. Hope u feel happier soon.

Veryverycalmnow · 01/09/2024 09:28

Just seen the date on the original post. How are things going OP?

Haroldwilson · 01/09/2024 08:51

I was all prepared to say maybe he's depressed etc before the bit about blowing his redundancy. That's just childish.

In your shoes I'd make plans, sort tenancy etc then boot him out when it suits you, maybe when your postnatal issues have levelled out a bit. Not because you'll see things differently but because it seems like extra stress you don't need.

Talk to your family about what you're planning, you might need their help and support.

HeatherCross · 01/09/2024 08:39

No way!!! You cannot rely on him not to neglect the children

PeoniesGinandBags · 28/07/2024 23:48

Apologies if this has already been said but your Health Visitor can be a really good source of support for you. Sending love x

PrincessofWells · 20/06/2024 20:15

AquaFurball · 20/06/2024 17:12

She can surrender the tenancy and get a new one in her name, if the Landlord agrees. A joint tenancy can be severed by one person and it will end for everyone. She can serve notice on him to sever the tenancy, whether he agrees or not. She may also need to go to court.

Like I said speak to Landlord, get him removed from tenancy before kicking him out.

See my post above!

AquaFurball · 20/06/2024 17:12

PrincessofWells · 20/06/2024 11:33

That would be an illegal eviction by the landlord.

She can surrender the tenancy and get a new one in her name, if the Landlord agrees. A joint tenancy can be severed by one person and it will end for everyone. She can serve notice on him to sever the tenancy, whether he agrees or not. She may also need to go to court.

Like I said speak to Landlord, get him removed from tenancy before kicking him out.

CrispieCake · 20/06/2024 12:21

He contributes nothing. Tell him to get the fuck out and stop sponging off you and the kids.

countcalculia · 20/06/2024 11:48

Please leave him (I know that's easier said that done).

The more you stay with him the more he will claim he's resident parent and want to keep child benefit and UC payments.

Gettingbysomehow · 20/06/2024 11:44

Tell him you hate him and you want him to leave. That will give you an amswer.

PrincessofWells · 20/06/2024 11:37

INeedAnotherName · 20/06/2024 11:14

She might not be able to remove him from the tenancy but it's still worth talking to the LL as they will might have the problem of him possibly squatting if she leaves. Much better to see if they will come to a compromise in her favour first (as the rent payer) - although if she has a rolling contract they might tell him they won't renew the joint tenancy. Always worth a chat first.

Good luck OP. Keep hold of that anger.

Op can give notice providing its outside the fixed term. That would be sufficient to end the tenancy. The landlord could then agree a sole tenancy. I doubt a landlord would get involved. It would not be a good idea, and I certainly wouldn't, unless there is dv.

EsmeSusanOgg · 20/06/2024 11:36

Is he claiming UC? He needs to contribute to the household in some way. Perhaps he can sell his gaming gear to pay bills?

PrincessofWells · 20/06/2024 11:33

AquaFurball · 19/06/2024 23:25

Contact your landlord first and get the tenancy agreement changed into your name only. Explain he is leaving, because he is and you need to be sure you have security for 3 children. You're the one paying the rent anyway.

Make sure he's removed before you remove him. Get your family to help.

You are on your own with 3 kids already and it's him causing you stress and anxiety not the kids. You will find it so much easier without that stress. 🌼

That would be an illegal eviction by the landlord.

AnneLovesGilbert · 20/06/2024 11:31

Glad you’ve posted and had such great support. Embrace your anger, lean on your parents and imagine how wonderful life will be once he’s not a stone around your neck. If he doesn’t bother with the kids once you’ve dumped him that is not your fault or responsibility. It’s all on him. He had every opportunity to be the partner to you and the dad to the kids you all deserve. He’s blown it because he’s pathetic. Stay strong and crack on with getting rid of him. You’ve got a lot of posters on here supporting you.

INeedAnotherName · 20/06/2024 11:14

She might not be able to remove him from the tenancy but it's still worth talking to the LL as they will might have the problem of him possibly squatting if she leaves. Much better to see if they will come to a compromise in her favour first (as the rent payer) - although if she has a rolling contract they might tell him they won't renew the joint tenancy. Always worth a chat first.

Good luck OP. Keep hold of that anger.

Wordsofprey · 20/06/2024 10:59

I'm not sure you'll be able to remove him from the tenancy if you are joint tenants - I was told I couldn't when my landlord mistook my contract for being joint, but luckily my ex was only a permitted occupier (his credit was terrible so they wouldn't put him on there). You might be better off trying to break the lease and absorbing the costs that come with it, possibly a couple grand. He sounds like a piece of work though, men who have a mask and then it slips, and they do shit like this. I really feel for you, from what you've said you should be leaving him. You'll have more money and be better off anyway, and will do grand as a single mum. You're basically a single mum already with an extra mouth to monitor (his). Reach out to people close to you so you can share the burden of stress. You'll be happier without him once the initial emotions settle down.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/06/2024 10:43

Oh I feel for you, OP.

My husband was unemployed when our daughter was born. His long term contract had come to an end and he was looking to change direction but didn't know how. He did full time childcare for our eldest for a couple of months, then applied for a few jobs and had some disappointing setbacks, then our daughter was born and the job search went on the back burner for a bit. It all came to a head when she was a couple of months old and he wasn't applying for jobs and I started to get very anxious and depressed about the situation. We had a couple of blazing rows and I helped him a lot with CVs and interview prep and then he got something just before his severance pay ran out. It was a stressful time.

But the difference is that he was bringing in money (big severance package which was paid over 8 months), and he was incredibly hands on with the kids and the house in that time.

You just sound completely alone trying to raise three kids with an adult baby along for the ride. He isn't contributing anything. He isn't looking for a job. He's happy to let you pay for everything.

You're in a very vulnerable position with three children including a newborn, but I think it is time to give your partner an ultimatum. Pull yourself together, look for a job, do your fair share at home, or fuck off back to mummy.

LizzieBennett73 · 20/06/2024 10:36

Take that anger and roll with it. You deserve so much better.

grumpygrape · 20/06/2024 10:34

Stay strong OP 🤗

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GabriellaMontez · 20/06/2024 10:19

The only good bit is that his mum will.have him back straight away.

Hope he can be with her by tonight.

Sounds like it will be a huge relief.

SuncreamAndIceCream · 20/06/2024 10:15

How dare he leech off me like this

👏👏👏

Good for you @DaisyG20 anger is an energy! Get him gone. Back to mummy and she can wipe his arse.

INeedAnotherName · 20/06/2024 10:08

At the moment, he's the cool dad who plays games with them and stays up late watching films and I feel like they'd resent me.

Why? He can still be the cool dad playing games on his 50% but just in a different house. This man is adding nothing to your life but he is certainly taking away a lot from it. Financially, physically (food etc), mentally AND emotionally. He is sucking you dry. Speak to your LL and then kick him out. Don't listen to his promises of how it will all be different if he can come back - it won't.

Nicebloomers · 20/06/2024 09:17

He sounds awful and you need to get rid of him. Sorry you’ve put up with so much but you can’t continue like this.

If you pay for the Wi-fi (I’m assuming you do as you’re bankrolling this loser) then change the password. Don’t make him any good, wash his clothes etc. It will be easier for you if he goes running back to his mummy. He’s acting like a child so treat him that way.

DaisyG20 · 20/06/2024 09:06

He bought a crib, bottles and steriliser for the baby. And then the rest of the money went on guitars he doesn't use, takeaway, games, a VR headset. I asked him not to blow it as he no longer has a job, but he can't manage money at all as he's never had to. Me or his family have always had his back. When I read back on my comments I can't believe I've tolerated this for so long, seeing it written down is eye opening.

I haven't been happy for a long time, but I think what's kept me here is worrying about the effect on the kids and not being sure he'd bother with them. At the moment, he's the cool dad who plays games with them and stays up late watching films and I feel like they'd resent me. My older son is autistic and massively into his games and he can't handle change, so his dad moving out will most likely upset him.

I've just dropped the kids at school and I'm going to my parents with the baby for a while, I need some space away from him I can't stand watching him sat playing games day in day out. I need to get my affairs in order, starting with contacting the estate agents to remove him off the tenancy. Luckily our finances are separate as he's so bad with money, luckily I had the common sense not to join finances. He knows something is coming as he says I barely speak to him and distant. I'm going to see if one of my parents can have the kids for tea whilst I talk to him, the way I'm feeling I want him gone tonight.

How dare he leech off me like this.

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