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Woman telling me to open my car windows

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Youknowitsnotthesameasitwas · 19/06/2024 14:52

The other day I went to the petrol station with my 6 year old in the car. She’s currently off school as isn’t feeling well and we stopped to get petrol before heading to the Drs.
It’s our local petrol station, a small one. I always park at the pump closest to the large front window where the cashier is, it’s about the same distance as sitting on the sofa and watching tv.
Dd didn’t want to go in as she doesn’t feel well, it was a warm day but because Dd wasn’t feeling well she didn’t want the air con on or windows open. I parked outside and nipped in, being able to see her the whole time. I was behind one man in the queue paying and a woman came in and started asking if it was my child in the car and saying how the car windows should be open. I said to her, it literally takes me less than a minute to come in here and pay. She was still going on about it, at this point I started to feel pissed off and said ‘It’s ok, it’s my daughter, I know what I’m doing, she’s not very well and didn’t want the windows open and I’m just nipping in and out and can see her the whole time, ok?’

Was I in the wrong or was she?

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Scruffily · 23/06/2024 20:44

redskydarknight · 19/06/2024 15:25

And you also had the whole conversation with the woman in that minute??

The woman was not to know how long you'd been there - you can end up stuck in petrol station kiosks for ages if the person in front of you wants to do something complicated or the online system goes down which always seems to happen to me

In that unlikely situation there would have been plenty of time for OP to go out and check on her child again. A 6 year old is also capable of opening a door if she's uncomfortable.

jannier · 23/06/2024 20:41

Was it really 2 mins including pumping petrol time ? I'd query why if feeling ill she didn't want air as most people do but kids don't always realise feeling cold is often a temperature and needs to be brought down.
I'd rather someone asked than a child got a heat stroke and started vomiting or worse.

CandiedPrincess · 23/06/2024 20:25

Nobody has died from heat while someone paid for fuel. YANBU

Youknowitsnotthesameasitwas · 23/06/2024 20:24

@Mumofferal3 Julia…??

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Emmz1510 · 23/06/2024 16:57

She’s being ridiculous. Was it hot where you are? Even so, the time it takes to go in to pay for petrol she wouldn’t have got too heated

Mumofferal3 · 23/06/2024 16:31

Julia?!

cremebrulait · 23/06/2024 11:35

ButterCrackers · 23/06/2024 07:43

The difference is that I would have said to my child (and I have said) if you don’t want to get out of the car and go into the shop with us then we will all just go home now and you won’t have your headphones, whatever is on the list. It’s the parents actually taking responsibility for parenting. It might take longer to get round the shop but that’s how it is with kids in tow.

I agree! I'm firm with my child especially when it comes to safety. Mine is 7. Kid's need grown ups to make decisions that involve safety....

Calliopespa · 23/06/2024 09:46

Wheresyourvote · 19/06/2024 18:45

Yeah she was a busy body. But as you can see from this thread op… the world is full of them. Mothers are constantly in fear of being judged by ‘do gooders’ who more often than not (I’ve noticed) dont even have kids themselves.

That last comment is very true.

I remember when my first newborn was in the pram ( not a buggy style, traditional pram lying completely flat) a lady came up and said the baby needs strapping in even if they can’t yet roll or move as if a car hit the pram or it tipped over the baby would fly out. Until then I had only thought of the straps as restraining the baby from rolling out etc and hadn’t bothered to loop little floppy arms through the straps and clip the buckle ( which looks HUGE) on a newborn. It sent a shiver down my spine I hadn’t done it ( we hadn’t been out much as it was very early days) and I was actually very grateful. BUT she did add very kindly “ you have to let me point these things out: I’m a frustrated grandmother! None of mine want children yet!”

LalaPaloosa · 23/06/2024 08:15

You could have told her to mind her business, but I wouldn’t give it any more thought.

sevsal · 23/06/2024 07:46

CruCru · 20/06/2024 14:30

This is going to become more of a thing with electric cars. Children and dogs can be left in a stationary electric car with the windows up - the AC can stay on. Except no one else will realise that the AC stays on and will be kicking off about it.

Surely if a stranger approached and said anything about a child/dog in that scenario you would simply tell them the ac was on. It's not that deep. Simple communication goes a long way. People are so desperate to be offended.

ButterCrackers · 23/06/2024 07:43

cremebrulait · 23/06/2024 07:28

Well there are cases of people being arrested because they left their child for minutes. I literally ran from my car in front of the house to the door to get my mobile left right inside the door and ran back - and in that seemingly seconds a neighbor walking their dog stopped to lecture me.

But here's the thing mumsnetters. It takes minutes for a child to die in a hot car. And there's no coming back. Before you start recommending insults for the woman running in - commend. her for giving a sh!t about a child who is not hers. Because every single day on this wonderful place called EARTH the unthinkable happen. What if mom went in and the petrol station was held up? What if she had a seizure or a heart attack? All manner of things can happen. And no matter what your CHILD says - you don't leave a child in a car without windows cracked open if at all. In many places it is against the law. In the USA children DIE it sees on an almost daily basis becasue of being left in a car.

I would much rather look at this way: thank gooodness there are strangers that care enough about humans to NOTICE a child alone in a car and to DO something about it. Because that 'overbearing' individual is precisely the kind that will notice someone in distress and stay involved until that person is no longer in distress.

FFS people it takes a village...

The difference is that I would have said to my child (and I have said) if you don’t want to get out of the car and go into the shop with us then we will all just go home now and you won’t have your headphones, whatever is on the list. It’s the parents actually taking responsibility for parenting. It might take longer to get round the shop but that’s how it is with kids in tow.

cremebrulait · 23/06/2024 07:28

Youknowitsnotthesameasitwas · 19/06/2024 14:52

The other day I went to the petrol station with my 6 year old in the car. She’s currently off school as isn’t feeling well and we stopped to get petrol before heading to the Drs.
It’s our local petrol station, a small one. I always park at the pump closest to the large front window where the cashier is, it’s about the same distance as sitting on the sofa and watching tv.
Dd didn’t want to go in as she doesn’t feel well, it was a warm day but because Dd wasn’t feeling well she didn’t want the air con on or windows open. I parked outside and nipped in, being able to see her the whole time. I was behind one man in the queue paying and a woman came in and started asking if it was my child in the car and saying how the car windows should be open. I said to her, it literally takes me less than a minute to come in here and pay. She was still going on about it, at this point I started to feel pissed off and said ‘It’s ok, it’s my daughter, I know what I’m doing, she’s not very well and didn’t want the windows open and I’m just nipping in and out and can see her the whole time, ok?’

Was I in the wrong or was she?

Well there are cases of people being arrested because they left their child for minutes. I literally ran from my car in front of the house to the door to get my mobile left right inside the door and ran back - and in that seemingly seconds a neighbor walking their dog stopped to lecture me.

But here's the thing mumsnetters. It takes minutes for a child to die in a hot car. And there's no coming back. Before you start recommending insults for the woman running in - commend. her for giving a sh!t about a child who is not hers. Because every single day on this wonderful place called EARTH the unthinkable happen. What if mom went in and the petrol station was held up? What if she had a seizure or a heart attack? All manner of things can happen. And no matter what your CHILD says - you don't leave a child in a car without windows cracked open if at all. In many places it is against the law. In the USA children DIE it sees on an almost daily basis becasue of being left in a car.

I would much rather look at this way: thank gooodness there are strangers that care enough about humans to NOTICE a child alone in a car and to DO something about it. Because that 'overbearing' individual is precisely the kind that will notice someone in distress and stay involved until that person is no longer in distress.

FFS people it takes a village...

The day I left my son in the car

I made a split-second decision to run into the store. I had no idea it would consume the next few years of my life

https://www.salon.com/2014/06/03/the_day_i_left_my_son_in_the_car/

CruCru · 20/06/2024 14:30

This is going to become more of a thing with electric cars. Children and dogs can be left in a stationary electric car with the windows up - the AC can stay on. Except no one else will realise that the AC stays on and will be kicking off about it.

Youknowitsnotthesameasitwas · 20/06/2024 14:04

@upgradeyourvetting You agree it happened 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Godnotthisagain · 20/06/2024 00:20

Well you were more patient and polite than I would have been, but busybodies are a pet hate of mine.

The conversation with me would have gone more like this:

First response: 'She's fine, thank you your concern though'

Second response: 'I've already told you as nicely as I can manage to mind you own business as everything is fine, so now I am telling you to piss off you fucking busybody.'

PyongyangKipperbang · 19/06/2024 23:54

Perfectly. Are you?

echt · 19/06/2024 23:31

It’s always “just a minute”. Until it isn’t.

The woman wasn’t wrong.

whatkatysdoingnow · 19/06/2024 23:28

I think it was one of those situations where you shouldn't have done it (left DD in a car by herself) but practically, you didn't have many options (if you needed fuel, you needed fuel, and dragging a poorly child out of a car wouldn't have been fun for either of you).

PrestonHood121 · 19/06/2024 22:48

“Leave me alone and mind your own business.”

CookieCrumbles23 · 19/06/2024 22:48

Don’t let it get to you too much, OP. We all do
things differently, I guess. I do worry about my kids being in the car alone for other reasons but I appreciate I’m the minority. The shell app is a lifesaver as I live in an area with no pay at pump. People will always have an opinion about everything, if you know your kid was okay, let it go over your head.

Noseybookworm · 19/06/2024 22:38

I wouldn't have bothered explaining myself to her, I'd probably ignore or tell her to mind her own bloody business!

WickedSerious · 19/06/2024 21:26

Runsyd · 19/06/2024 18:07

'Mind your own business', then walk away.

This.

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