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To report my neighbour for indecent exposure in his garden?

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jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 11:24

On regular occasions when I look out of my bedroom window at the back of my house, I have seen the elderly neighbour opposite standing fully naked in his back garden. Not only this but he is touching himself, and stands right by his back door clearly wanting people to see. It's absolutely disgusting, and bothering me quite a bit, especially since I have young children.

I have looked into indecent exposure but this seems to need to be in a public place, not sure whether since this is his own garden whether that would count?

Does anyone know if I can report this and whether anything is likely to be done about it?

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Abeona · 19/06/2024 15:32

Edited because I now see the OP has reported this to the police. Well done, OP.

A couple of years ago during Covid my DP was helping to deliver supplies to local residents. (My partner is a woman, by the way). She knocked at one house which had a solid front door but a long clear glass side panel each side of it. The man living there came down the hall stark naked, with an erection, and then touched himself when he saw her there with a box of supplies. She took a photo of him and left.

She reported him to the police and he admitted exposing himself (gave them some nonsense about not being able to find his dressing gown and waking up with an erection when she rang). She was asked if she wanted them to take it to court and as she'd subsequently found out from others that he often did this, she said yes. He pleaded guilty and now has a criminal record. So please, follow this up. Flashing and masturbating in public is often indicative of worse things done in private.

Snugglemonkey · 19/06/2024 15:05

Balloonhearts · 19/06/2024 13:11

I'd knock first and tell him that your children have witnessed this (whether they have or not) and that if you see it again you will be reporting him. Then if it happens again call 101 and explain that he is doing it in full view of children and that he is aware they can see him. Police will take it very seriously if he is knowingly masturbating in front of children.

If you don't want to knock, put a note through his letterbox.

Why? There is no need to engage with him.it is a police matter.

oakleaffy · 19/06/2024 15:01

jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 14:45

I'd also encourage people to report and I'm really pleased I have done and wish I had done it sooner actually as this has been happening for over a year now. I'm really impressed with how they police have dealt with it, part of me thought they would brush it off and say he can do what he likes in his own garden.

Edited

At school we visited a Magistrate’s Court and sat through some cases in the public seats
One case was of a wretched man who was flashing a young woman on Richmond Station
The questions the Male magistrate asked were not good.
Sadly the perp got away with it as the poor victim couldn’t tell if the perps penis was erect or not.

The girls on the class were 🤬as we had all been flashed at at some time.

oakleaffy · 19/06/2024 14:57

Mrsjayy · 19/06/2024 12:03

I remember getting flashed at as a kid/teenager people used to joke about it sketch shows would have men in macs and it would be "hilarious " it isn't hilarious its horrific, there used to be an old man do it at his window when we walked home from school, nobody did anything just laughed at "old jim"

Yes it’s revolting-
Horrible little Turkey giblets - no one wants to see it-
@jumbojumbo Glad police took it seriously.

Badassnameforadojo · 19/06/2024 14:47

Did the police give you any details on what the guy said? Like… what the hell was he playing at?

jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 14:45

AlsoHaveAPervertNeighbour · 19/06/2024 14:39

Glad the police have been so proactive.

I've also had a similar problem with my neighbour. I contacted the police and they took it very seriously as well, although they didn't come out on the same day, but whatever they said to him has obviously scared the shit out of him and I've barely seen him since.

I would encourage anyone in a similar situation to report it straight to the police. I think we hear a lot about when the police have been useless or dismissive and that puts people off reporting things, but don't hear as often when they have been helpful.

I'd also encourage people to report and I'm really pleased I have done and wish I had done it sooner actually as this has been happening for over a year now. I'm really impressed with how they police have dealt with it, part of me thought they would brush it off and say he can do what he likes in his own garden.

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AlsoHaveAPervertNeighbour · 19/06/2024 14:39

Glad the police have been so proactive.

I've also had a similar problem with my neighbour. I contacted the police and they took it very seriously as well, although they didn't come out on the same day, but whatever they said to him has obviously scared the shit out of him and I've barely seen him since.

I would encourage anyone in a similar situation to report it straight to the police. I think we hear a lot about when the police have been useless or dismissive and that puts people off reporting things, but don't hear as often when they have been helpful.

Mrsjayy · 19/06/2024 14:39

jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 13:34

I'm surprised by that. The officer I spoke to today seemed to think that if he was in his own house, nothing would happen to him. He even said if he was just naked in his garden it would be difficult to find a crime. But it was the masturbating part that crossed the line.

Just keep reporting if you keep seeing it, hopefully somebody will go round.

oakleaffy · 19/06/2024 14:37

KimberleyClark · 19/06/2024 11:31

I realise it’s a Mumsnet cliche but if he’s elderly then he may not be fully compos mentis. Do you e er talk to him? Does he seem otherwise ok? I speak as someone with experience of dementia.

It’s a truly a Mumsnet meme - over 50 =Dementia
Under 50 =Autism for anything remotely differing from the norm.

BMW6 · 19/06/2024 14:35

Well done OP.

Meadowfinch · 19/06/2024 14:07

I think the law depends on whether he is intentionally 'outraging public decency'.

If he thinks he is being discreet and not overlooked, that is very different from blatantly masterbating, knowing someone is watching.

I'd call the non-emergency number and ask their advice. Most adults are capable of averting their eyes. But if he was 'putting on a show' in front of children, that would be completely unacceptable.

SpaceMaze · 19/06/2024 13:58

I’m glad you reported the pervert op.

More often than not, men who exhibit this kind of behaviour have already committed or go on to commit other disgusting sex crimes. It should absolutely be taken seriously.

NeverEnoughPants · 19/06/2024 13:54

jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 13:34

I'm surprised by that. The officer I spoke to today seemed to think that if he was in his own house, nothing would happen to him. He even said if he was just naked in his garden it would be difficult to find a crime. But it was the masturbating part that crossed the line.

When I said 'in an indecent manner', I didn't just mean naked. I don't remember the specifics though.

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 19/06/2024 13:46

Someone round here used to do that in their bedroom window and they were charged by the police. Definitely report!

TheDutchHouse · 19/06/2024 13:42

N0tfinished · 19/06/2024 13:00

Could you put up a fence?

This really annoys me, why should she be the one putting up a fence , or averting her eyes !
Smacks of victim blaming to me , but I may be over sensitive.
He's wanking in public view . It's a police issue not an OP issue...

jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 13:34

NeverEnoughPants · 19/06/2024 13:28

Someone local to me got done for indecent exposure in his own house. He answered the door in an indecent manner, and was reported, charged and plead guilty.

So no, it doesn't have to be in a public place. Good luck!

I'm surprised by that. The officer I spoke to today seemed to think that if he was in his own house, nothing would happen to him. He even said if he was just naked in his garden it would be difficult to find a crime. But it was the masturbating part that crossed the line.

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ClaudiaWinklepanda · 19/06/2024 13:33

Good result OP. I know someone who reported a neighbour for wanking in view of the street and the man was prosecuted.

Moonpie6 · 19/06/2024 13:33

I feel sick reading this. Absolute vile vile man.

Report today. Hope you're ok. I'd find that so upsetting.

I'm sat waiting to have something to eat in nandos an put me off my food now

KreedKafer · 19/06/2024 13:32

fortifiedwithtea · 19/06/2024 11:35

If you are that bothered could you out a note through his door or actually speak to him?

Our neighbour at the back has a house orientated side on. I am told he does a naked streak from his bathroom to bedroom. Problem is our houses have a window on the landing.

As we are a household of adults its only my 26 year daughter who notices. I’ve said the same to her, if you are that bothered go and speak to him. So far she has said nothing

Someone being briefly and unwittingly visible while naked in their own home is very, very different to someone standing in the garden and masturbating, which is what the OP’s neighbour is doing. Putting a note through someone’s door to say “Hi neighbour, would mind stopping committing sex offences against me and my children, please?” is not going to help anyone.

NeverEnoughPants · 19/06/2024 13:29

Missed the update (and managed to quote the op.. two big faux pas in one post.. sorry).

That's great news op.

5128gap · 19/06/2024 13:29

fortifiedwithtea · 19/06/2024 11:35

If you are that bothered could you out a note through his door or actually speak to him?

Our neighbour at the back has a house orientated side on. I am told he does a naked streak from his bathroom to bedroom. Problem is our houses have a window on the landing.

As we are a household of adults its only my 26 year daughter who notices. I’ve said the same to her, if you are that bothered go and speak to him. So far she has said nothing

"If you are that bothered"??? In what world are women supposed to be not "that bothered" about a naked man deliberately masturbating in their full view? An accidental exposure to neighbours while naked inside your house is nothing like what is happening here.

NeverEnoughPants · 19/06/2024 13:28

jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 11:24

On regular occasions when I look out of my bedroom window at the back of my house, I have seen the elderly neighbour opposite standing fully naked in his back garden. Not only this but he is touching himself, and stands right by his back door clearly wanting people to see. It's absolutely disgusting, and bothering me quite a bit, especially since I have young children.

I have looked into indecent exposure but this seems to need to be in a public place, not sure whether since this is his own garden whether that would count?

Does anyone know if I can report this and whether anything is likely to be done about it?

Someone local to me got done for indecent exposure in his own house. He answered the door in an indecent manner, and was reported, charged and plead guilty.

So no, it doesn't have to be in a public place. Good luck!

sparkleowl · 19/06/2024 13:27

jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 13:17

Just to update everyone - I called 101, they took it very seriously and sent out an emergency response straight away. which I didnt expect tbh. The police have then just visited me to say they spoke to him very harshly about it, and they got him on body camera admitting to it and saying he is sorry and won't do it again.

Hoping the police visit shocks him and he doesn't do it again.

Thanks everyone for your advice.

That’s good.😃

sprigatito · 19/06/2024 13:26

@fortifiedwithtea you seriously suggested that your daughter go and confront a man who was masturbating in public? I have young adult children and my mind is blown by this.

Startingagainandagain · 19/06/2024 13:24

'@fortifiedwithtea
If you are that bothered could you out a note through his door or actually speak to him?'

This is a daft suggestion.

The OP should not directly engage with a potential sex perv/exhibitionist or even someone who is trying to attract the attention of children...

OP, ring the police as suggested and leave them to act on this.

They can also do a welfare check and involve social services if this is related to a health condition (dementia, mental health issues...).

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