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To report my neighbour for indecent exposure in his garden?

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jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 11:24

On regular occasions when I look out of my bedroom window at the back of my house, I have seen the elderly neighbour opposite standing fully naked in his back garden. Not only this but he is touching himself, and stands right by his back door clearly wanting people to see. It's absolutely disgusting, and bothering me quite a bit, especially since I have young children.

I have looked into indecent exposure but this seems to need to be in a public place, not sure whether since this is his own garden whether that would count?

Does anyone know if I can report this and whether anything is likely to be done about it?

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SerafinasGoose · 20/06/2024 08:16

5128gap · 19/06/2024 13:29

"If you are that bothered"??? In what world are women supposed to be not "that bothered" about a naked man deliberately masturbating in their full view? An accidental exposure to neighbours while naked inside your house is nothing like what is happening here.

There are some of these on MN lately. It's usually transparent.

Poettree · 20/06/2024 03:21

Well done. I'm glad he's been reported and maybe now he'll get it into his thick, creepy, selfish head that no, his neighbours are not interested in his revolting behaviour, nor are they there to service his vile need to exhibit himself and yes, it's actually a crime and he is a weirdo loser sex pest.

I've wound myself up now!

I'm so happy you did this though and the police were so onto it.

QueenCamilla · 20/06/2024 00:08

festivallove · 19/06/2024 11:35

I had foster children who told me that a young female student living directly across the road was regularly stripping off at her window and dancing in the window. I was a bit disbelieving at first until I saw it myself, she was also looking directly over at the foster child's window as she was dancing. I spoke to the police who took it very seriously and paid her a visit. They gave me some follow up to say she had been very apologetic and didn't know why she was doing it but would stop. It did stop but I've always wondered why she did it, very attractive 18/ 19 year old young woman. The police did say that if she did it again they would attempt to charge her but I don't know what with

Easily could have been me. I used to have a full-length mirror hanging right beside the window that wouldn't be obvious to anyone on the outside.
I'd change into all sorts of glad-rags and skimpies when getting ready for a night out (or night in with a boyfriend) and if the music was on, I'd do it justice too 😁

MUCH more likely that it was this sort of typical teen behaviour than someone's wet dream of a hot student-turned nymphomaniac flasher (wanton eye-contact including).

No one called the cops on me though - were probably worried of going to jail for voyerism!

Hazelville · 19/06/2024 23:46

Whothefuckdoesthat · 19/06/2024 21:45

He may have.

But if you look at the numbers of dementia sufferers and compare it to the number of men who regularly harass women and girls, he’s statistically more likely to be a disgusting creep who is enjoying knowing that women are having to double check he’s not out there wanking before letting their DC walk past the window or play in their own gardens.

Time will tell I suppose. If he stops doing it now that the police have been round, I suspect that dementia is not the issue here.

I was going to say something similar. I think it is much more likely he is a pervert who gets off on publicly masturbating. If dementia then it is sad but no less revolting and I suspect the police would have picked up on it when they talked to him.

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/06/2024 23:35

fortifiedwithtea · Today 11:35
“If you are that bothered …”

You wouldn’t be bothered about a stark naked neighbour wanking in full view? Blimey.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 19/06/2024 23:32

They said that he admitted to doing it, and seemed very remorseful and even started crying The sort of man who does this is not the sort of man who is going to feel any genuine remorse. He’s either faking it to convince the police that he’s a harmless and lonely old man who has learned his lesson and no further action needs to be taken, or he’s shitting himself about what will happen to him if it goes to court and whether he is going to have to worry about anyone’s husband coming to string him up.

I hope he feels sick with fear every time there’s a knock at the door and can’t sleep with worry. And I hope it leaves him too frightened to even think about opening his back door. Vile creature.

jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 23:16

jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 23:05

Just following up on some of the questions asked. He is not doing it in somewhere that could be considered 'private' in his garden. The houses in my area are small and while I'm saying garden I actually mean yard. Everyone's yards are in full view of each other.

The police also confirmed no dementia and that he seemed of sound mind. They said that he admitted to doing it, and seemed very remorseful and even started crying.

My understanding was that he has been given a warning, and if it happens again he will be charged. However they also said that CID may decide to charge on this occasion but it's unlikely. They actually said to call 999 if it happens again.

Also wanted to add that the police did not advise to film it.

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jumbojumbo · 19/06/2024 23:05

Just following up on some of the questions asked. He is not doing it in somewhere that could be considered 'private' in his garden. The houses in my area are small and while I'm saying garden I actually mean yard. Everyone's yards are in full view of each other.

The police also confirmed no dementia and that he seemed of sound mind. They said that he admitted to doing it, and seemed very remorseful and even started crying.

My understanding was that he has been given a warning, and if it happens again he will be charged. However they also said that CID may decide to charge on this occasion but it's unlikely. They actually said to call 999 if it happens again.

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stichguru · 19/06/2024 22:58

Call the police. They will know what he could be done for and will also be able to do a welfare check. You and especially your children, have a right NOT to see that. Also though, regardless of what your neighbour said, it is possible the man seems of sound mind, but isn't totally. If he is not well and is doing this, then those with a duty of care need to know. The police won't arrest him if it's not appropriate.

AlsoLocal · 19/06/2024 22:57

We’ve had the same problem with elderly next door but one neighbour.

He was parading around his garden naked, if clothed while people were outside in their gardens he’d go indoors to strip from waist down - in colder weather just the jumper would stay on 🤢 - then come back outside.

He’d stand on his raised door step (so genitals were above the fence height) and masturbate - whilst attempting to maintain eye contact with people out in their gardens….. terraced houses so can see into each others gardens and many of us started to avoid going outside, in order to avoid his masturbating.

He only ever flashed female neighbours (including 14 yr old girl living next door to him), if any men were outside his clothes would remain on.

He had social services assessment, MH & dementia assessments - no concerns raised in any. His actions towards female neighbours were entirely deliberate.

In the end a few of us reported him to Police via non-emergency number. And they took it very seriously - his masturbating was considered a sex crime by them because it was designed to cause distress to others, even though he was still within his own garden.

Police visited him on several occasions, told him to stop or he’d get arrested. He did stop for a few months and when he started doing it again, the Police were happy to come back and in that occasion did arrest him and held him overnight. That seemed to work as was 18months ago and we’ve not seen his wrinkly bits since 🥳

Zone2NorthLondon · 19/06/2024 22:52

fortifiedwithtea · 19/06/2024 11:35

If you are that bothered could you out a note through his door or actually speak to him?

Our neighbour at the back has a house orientated side on. I am told he does a naked streak from his bathroom to bedroom. Problem is our houses have a window on the landing.

As we are a household of adults its only my 26 year daughter who notices. I’ve said the same to her, if you are that bothered go and speak to him. So far she has said nothing

Utterly appalling advice.Do NOT do this
The onus isn’t on @jumbojumbo to initiate discussion or explore motive
Report to police. Let them follow up

Nchanged89 · 19/06/2024 22:18

guineverehadgreeneyes · 19/06/2024 17:48

This thread is now on Page 4. OP updated on Page 2 that she had contacted the police and they had visited the man and warned him.

Why don't posters read an OP's updates before chipping in with their two cents?

Because they are so far up their own arses they think that the advice they will give will be so the advice that will solve the problem and no one before them could have considered it.
It's rude. Its easy to click on OP posts only, but they don't as they are so very important.

oakleaffy · 19/06/2024 21:58

Whothefuckdoesthat · 19/06/2024 21:45

He may have.

But if you look at the numbers of dementia sufferers and compare it to the number of men who regularly harass women and girls, he’s statistically more likely to be a disgusting creep who is enjoying knowing that women are having to double check he’s not out there wanking before letting their DC walk past the window or play in their own gardens.

Time will tell I suppose. If he stops doing it now that the police have been round, I suspect that dementia is not the issue here.

Very good point.

My betting is that he doesn't have dementia - but is a Common or garden

tosser

oakleaffy · 19/06/2024 21:52

BigDahliaFan · 19/06/2024 21:40

I was listening to something on radio 4 about how flashing isnt just nothing, it’s upsetting obviously, but also very often leads on to other worse behaviours and should be reported.

It is disconcerting to be flashed at -one just thinks ''Urgh- Gross'' -but that's what the flashers supposedly want.

Our lovely English teacher {a woman} after hearing about the Richmond Magistrate's court case with the flasher {My post above} said that she was flashed while on the Tube, but had the presence of mind to say ''Put it away, dear, I've seen bigger''

But lovely Mrs F. was around middle age, very no nonsense, and had a natural authority in her voice.

Hopefully the flasher didn't get the response he was hoping for.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 19/06/2024 21:45

whyhavetheygotsomany · 19/06/2024 21:10

He may have dementia

He may have.

But if you look at the numbers of dementia sufferers and compare it to the number of men who regularly harass women and girls, he’s statistically more likely to be a disgusting creep who is enjoying knowing that women are having to double check he’s not out there wanking before letting their DC walk past the window or play in their own gardens.

Time will tell I suppose. If he stops doing it now that the police have been round, I suspect that dementia is not the issue here.

oakleaffy · 19/06/2024 21:44

diddl · 19/06/2024 16:11

Sadly the perp got away with it as the poor victim couldn’t tell if the perps penis was erect or not.

What???

So what was he being accused of I wonder that this was a deciding factor?

It really was shocking to listen to. The poor woman was clearly upset and embarrassed - I know Richmond Station, and the part where she was flashed at is far from where the station staff generally are.

The accusation was him 'flashing' her and exposing his penis to her while she was alone on the platform.

I don't see how the state of the flasher's penis mattered- He probably said he was taking a pee or something in defence...It was so bad.

Even our {Male} History and Civics teacher was surprised {we spoke about it after we left the Court.}

BigDahliaFan · 19/06/2024 21:40

Beautifulbythebay · 19/06/2024 11:56

My ds was flashed at recently in public. The man has form. And also for wanking in a local freezer food shop!!. 7 arrests he has had. Charged eventually.. Report.. Do not record unless the police ask you to.

I was listening to something on radio 4 about how flashing isnt just nothing, it’s upsetting obviously, but also very often leads on to other worse behaviours and should be reported.

Spitalfieldrose · 19/06/2024 21:29

We live near a new estate, all the window look into each others. Some guy would do the exact same thing (naked having a wank) by the window and he was inside his house. He was prosecuted and did some jail time. Phone the police.

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whyhavetheygotsomany · 19/06/2024 21:10

He may have dementia

DonnaBanana · 19/06/2024 21:08

And the police said it was fine but that maybe I should buy some net curtains!

DonnaBanana · 19/06/2024 21:08

Is he in a location where he could consider himself entitled to the right of privacy? If so, it doesn't matter if you can happen to see him, he has a right to privacy. I had this situation many years ago when having sex in an upstairs front bedroom but the bus stopped in traffic outside with people looking in.

Abi86 · 19/06/2024 20:48

If he’s airing his tockly and being one with nature - all good

if he’s batting off - not good

Valeriekat · 19/06/2024 20:40

fortifiedwithtea · 19/06/2024 11:35

If you are that bothered could you out a note through his door or actually speak to him?

Our neighbour at the back has a house orientated side on. I am told he does a naked streak from his bathroom to bedroom. Problem is our houses have a window on the landing.

As we are a household of adults its only my 26 year daughter who notices. I’ve said the same to her, if you are that bothered go and speak to him. So far she has said nothing

What should the note say?