Page 5 | If you knew the Greens would win in your seat you'd vote for them

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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 12:30

Gettingbysomehow · 19/06/2024 12:26

I would never vote for them, they messed up Brighton when I lived near there. In fact I never went to Brighton ever because it was impossible to get in or out of and car parking cost £15 plus. Rubbish everywhere, homeless people living in tents everywhere you went, everything unaffordable.

Exactly like my home town destroyed and bled dry by (mainly) Labour. It is now a fully-fledged crime ridden shithole I can't afford to move out of.

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NightsWithYou · 19/06/2024 12:29

That

NightsWithYou · 19/06/2024 12:29

Don’t they want self ID?

Thag would be a no then.

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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 12:26

Abouttimeforanamechange · 19/06/2024 12:01

.....my local candidate, who is really excellent on local issues and that is what matters to me.

General elections aren't about local issues. The elected government needs to have policies on national and international affairs. What are the Green party's policies on the Middle East or aid for Ukraine or the Commonwealth?

I disagree. Having a local MP who gives a shit, is important.

Greens want an immediate ceasefire and have clearly come out and said so.

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Gettingbysomehow · 19/06/2024 12:26

I would never vote for them, they messed up Brighton when I lived near there. In fact I never went to Brighton ever because it was impossible to get in or out of and car parking cost £15 plus. Rubbish everywhere, homeless people living in tents everywhere you went, everything unaffordable.

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 12:25

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:07

In other words, people don't vote Green mainly because they think they have no chance.

Their manifesto on Education seems to correspond with a lot of views on mumsnet, aibu?

YABU because they cannot define what a woman is, and have been overrun by the TRAs.

I'd vote for them otherwise but I just can't vote for a Party which puts men's rights above women's safety.

missmousemouth · 19/06/2024 12:25

stargirl1701 · 19/06/2024 11:30

No. Have you met the Scottish Greens? They were in Govt here in Scotland. It did not go well.

God they are horrendous, aren't they?

ChaToilLeam · 19/06/2024 12:25

As they currently stand I would not vote for them. Perhaps they need to get back to their remit of focusing on environmental issues instead of insisting that men can be women despite all common sense contradicting this.

Whyhaveibeencutoutofmamsnot · 19/06/2024 12:25

I would to keep our local Tory out. But wouldn't want a Green government just enough MP's to keep the rest on their toes

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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 12:23

Screamingabdabz · 19/06/2024 12:19

So depressing that women’s rights are so easily waved away by many. No I will not vote for any party that hates women.

So which party does that leave? Honestly?

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MsFogi · 19/06/2024 12:23

Hell would freeze over before I voted for the women-hating Green Party.

missmousemouth · 19/06/2024 12:23

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:07

In other words, people don't vote Green mainly because they think they have no chance.

Their manifesto on Education seems to correspond with a lot of views on mumsnet, aibu?

No. Because they believe a man can self-identify as a woman and on that basis have access to all spaces designed to keep women safe from men, no questions asked. Absolutely no!

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 19/06/2024 12:22

Fuck no. It might mobilise me to get off my arse and canvass for another party if that were a possibility.

bilgewater · 19/06/2024 12:21

Same. They won't get my vote under any circumstances.

Screamingabdabz · 19/06/2024 12:19

So depressing that women’s rights are so easily waved away by many. No I will not vote for any party that hates women.

siameselife · 19/06/2024 12:18

maddening · 19/06/2024 12:01

I don't agree with most of their policies so no I would not vote for them.

In the UK they really do present as a fringe party with some very ill thought out ideas and very misogynistic views on women.

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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 12:17

PeonySeasons · 19/06/2024 12:05

But she joined that party. She knows who they are and what they stand for and she still chooses to represent them without standing up/speaking out against the policies she doesn't approve of.

To me that makes her as morally bankrupt as the nutters she's working with.

See also any claims about a "good Tory".

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Actually she speaks out very strongly on everything that's important to her and left another party due to its stance on a certain issue so no, not morally bankrupt.

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Badbadbunny · 19/06/2024 12:09

If I thought the Greens could win our local election, I'd vote for whichever party was most likely to beat them, even if it were the Tories! Hell would have to freeze over before I'd vote Green or vote for a different party to split the opposition vote and let Green win by default.

violetposie · 19/06/2024 12:09

I work for a large local authority and often voted green before in local council elections. Never again. They are the most obstructive group of councillors I've ever worked with.

They force through road closures in neighbourhood areas to "keep pollution down" with no regard to the increased pollution/traffic elsewhere (they choose not to measure levels in areas that will provide evidence in counter to their suggestions). The policies are deeply unpopular yet are forced on the residents.

They are also all over the low emission zones in cities and if they had it their way, everyone driving a personal vehicle would be paying to enter it. Totally incompatible with modern living and the cost of living crisis.

Awful awful awful, I cannot state it enough 😂

Springwatch123 · 19/06/2024 12:07

GatherlyGal · 19/06/2024 11:28

I love the idea of the Green Party but they are totally batshit.

Women's rights aside (and that's bad enough) they think they know better than Cass about kids with gender issues and as for the drugs policy !

they want pharmacy-style places to dispense recreational cocaine and speed which will be sourced by the government and produced by sustainable coca farmers. Or something.

Yes, that’s kinda how I see it. I was impressed with how well the Green candidate spoke at the debates, but their policies let them down.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 19/06/2024 12:07

NotAllowed · 19/06/2024 11:49

Never in a million years. Climate change is a hoax and liberalism degrades society.

I sincerely would like to think that you are right about climate change, but the evidence strongly shows you are wrong.

Humans have caused localised climate change before that has led to the collapse of societies, now we're doing it on a global scale.

PBandJ111 · 19/06/2024 12:07

I wouldn’t vote for a bunch of loonies - they make the old looney party look good!

PeonySeasons · 19/06/2024 12:05

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 12:03

As mentioned I don't agree with any party in full, absolutely not.

It's just a shame that a good local Green candidate is going to miss out because the rest of her party is challenged in the sanity department.

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But she joined that party. She knows who they are and what they stand for and she still chooses to represent them without standing up/speaking out against the policies she doesn't approve of.

To me that makes her as morally bankrupt as the nutters she's working with.

See also any claims about a "good Tory".

yeesh · 19/06/2024 12:03

Not a chance

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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 12:03

PeonySeasons · 19/06/2024 11:55

Have you actually read the manifesto in full? Do you agree with it all? If so, vote for them. If not, review the other manifestos for all candidates standing in your area and get a broader perspective of what's being proposed by all of them.

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As mentioned I don't agree with any party in full, absolutely not.

It's just a shame that a good local Green candidate is going to miss out because the rest of her party is challenged in the sanity department.

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