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If you knew the Greens would win in your seat you'd vote for them

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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:07

In other words, people don't vote Green mainly because they think they have no chance.

Their manifesto on Education seems to correspond with a lot of views on mumsnet, aibu?

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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:05

That's what I'm in the process of doing, @SilverElf. Would be a LibDem voter by inclination but the party leader is hypocritical and unethical. Although the local LD candidate has given me some factual answers to a question I asked them, the rest of the local party have nothing positive or convincing to say, in fact quite the opposite.

As pp said, it is utterly pathetic.

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chattyness · 19/06/2024 13:04

they're incompetent money wasting, woman hating, wankers so no I'd never vote for them ever, always against! They are scumbags

tennesseewhiskey1 · 19/06/2024 13:02

They’re fucking crazy - no way.

JurassicClark · 19/06/2024 13:02

I joined so I could vote against the batshit gender identity nonsense and drag us back to being focused on the environment, and not anti-women.

I’ve watched members I voted for and hugely respect get hounded out of the Greens. I hope they can find reality once again, but the current leadership isn’t interested.

I don’t think there’s a single party offering decent policies for women. It’s so fucking depressing.

Wavesaves · 19/06/2024 13:01

I would if I thought they had a chance. However, my area is an SNP seat that may swing to Labour, so I'll be voting SNP to try to keep Labour out (plus the SNP candidate had actually engaged with us and visited houses with campaign information, as opposed to the Labour candidate who comes across as awful and only takes photos out campaigning in the nearest large town, forgetting the rest of the constituency).

ginasevern · 19/06/2024 13:00

The Greens are a bunch of privileged NIMBYS (not in my backyard). Solve the housing crisis as long as it doesn't infringe on the view from their own extremely large middle class home. Unfortunately that's my personal experience of them.

RoyKentwhistle · 19/06/2024 12:59

TheCultureHusks · 19/06/2024 11:08

I don’t vote for women hating wankers, so no.

This

Liliee · 19/06/2024 12:58

Are you really saying you didn't know about the Green Party stance on women and on child safeguarding? Look up their electoral officer, child rapist David Challenor. Their appalling handling of that was when they lost me. I had stood for them locally and voted for them from age 18 until then.

Never again.

eurochick · 19/06/2024 12:56

I would not vote for any party displaying such dreadful misogyny.

It's a real shame. I am deeply concerned about climate change. It's an existential threat facing humanity. And most governments are just tinkering around the edges of what they need to do. I'd like to see a government make real environmental changes. Instead they are pandering to TRAs and putting forward policies about how women should give birth. They have completely lost their way.

SilverElf · 19/06/2024 12:55

Think you just have to look at the candidates in your area - maybe you local green candidate actually knows what a woman is and won’t support self-id or your local xxx candidate is really hot on education.

The national choices are all so shit, so I think this time it’s really important to talk to your local candidates, tell them what you care about, ask them what they’ll do & vote accordingly.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 19/06/2024 12:55

crackofdoom · 19/06/2024 11:51

I don't see that as being wildly unachievable. On a windy day wind's share of the total energy generation mix can easily reach the high 60s percent as it is.

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If our energy only comes to 60% on a windy day, how is it going to get to 70% all the time? We need to be able to store excess electricity, which will require vast quantities of lithium for the batteries for a start. We need nuclear. Their environmental policies are batshit and their gender policies and treatment of gender critical people in the party make it impossible for me to vote for them, even as a protest, which I used to do often. It's easy to say 'disband ofsted and ' improve education' when you have no chance of getting into power. Does ' improving education' include basic biology?

WhereAreWeNow · 19/06/2024 12:52

I really would consider it if they weren't so batshit crazy on sex and gender. Shame because they have a lot of good policies.

YouJustDoYou · 19/06/2024 12:49

I saw what they did to Brighton, so, no.

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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 12:48

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 12:36

But you shouldn't be voting for candidates who are only good in their own local areas.
That's what local councillors are for.

Candidates for governing the country need to demonstrate acceptable international policies.

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Our local council is a mini Mafia. The councillors serve only themselves and everyone hates them. If your local council is as corrupt and damaging as mine, then you need a good MP to speak up.

Also the Green does have extremely good international policies, without platforming.

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ACynicalDad · 19/06/2024 12:47

I'd never vote green, I'd like to see us look after the environment better, but that doesn't need to be packaged with loony left economic policy.

SilverElf · 19/06/2024 12:44

i’ll happily vote green in local elections - good, hard-working local politicians in my experience. Nationally though? No way, have you seen the way they treat women? And anyone who complains gets thrown out of the party……(bit of personal experience there!)

Fragglerock75 · 19/06/2024 12:43

Nope. Used to be a member, now wouldn’t touch them with a bargepole.

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 12:43

God this is depressing. Well, I will still protest-vote for my Green candidate and join an electoral reform movement instead of a party

Actually I've just joined the Alba Party.

They haven't got a candidate in my constituency but I like their policies.

Hedgeoffressian · 19/06/2024 12:43

TheCultureHusks · 19/06/2024 11:08

I don’t vote for women hating wankers, so no.

Exactly this ^

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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 12:41

I'm not in Scotland, obviously. Scottish Greens sound horrendous, rather like Labour round my way, but for different reasons.

God this is depressing. Well, I will still protest-vote for my Green candidate and join an electoral reform movement instead of a party.

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TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 12:41

I've been thinking a bit more about this and I can safely say that there isn't one Party who I can vote for.

It's pathetic.

Motomum23 · 19/06/2024 12:40

No I wouldn't vote greens

Abitorangelooking · 19/06/2024 12:37

No in Scotland so they've had a lot of influence but its been wasted on various bandwagons. Very disappointed tbh

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 12:36

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 12:03

As mentioned I don't agree with any party in full, absolutely not.

It's just a shame that a good local Green candidate is going to miss out because the rest of her party is challenged in the sanity department.

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But you shouldn't be voting for candidates who are only good in their own local areas.
That's what local councillors are for.

Candidates for governing the country need to demonstrate acceptable international policies.

missmousemouth · 19/06/2024 12:35

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:51

No CocoapuffPuff, I am between a rock and a hard place. You can't have it all and I don't want to not vote, so I have to pick my policies and decide what's most important. With 3DC, for me, that's education.

Where I am, the Labour party is atrocious and the corruption is just eyewatering.

In Scotland, Robin Harper - longstanding Green politician - has defected from the greens to Labour. If the Greens had spent as much time in Scotland focussing on the environment as they did fighting to get men into safe spaces then maybe I'd know more about their environmental policies. Instead, I know a serial rapist nearly ended up in a female prison and the greens are totally OK with that. I feel nothing but contempt for them.