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If you knew the Greens would win in your seat you'd vote for them

210 replies

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:07

In other words, people don't vote Green mainly because they think they have no chance.

Their manifesto on Education seems to correspond with a lot of views on mumsnet, aibu?

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Allofaflutter · 19/06/2024 14:16

It’s greens v conservatives where I am.

RoobarbAndMustard · 19/06/2024 14:16

TheCultureHusks · 19/06/2024 11:08

I don’t vote for women hating wankers, so no.

^ Neither do I.

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 14:14

Thanks for the uplifting thoughts, @Cooper77 😊. I'll just nip down to my massively resourced and effective GP surgery for some suitable MH medication to deal with my remaining 25 years on the planet (let's hope to god it's not 40).

Still, at least I don't buy chicken from Lidl and there isn't an open sewer in my street (yet).

Any news on bubonic plague outbreaks?

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bellinisurge · 19/06/2024 14:02

"Vote who, then. Literally nobody has a better suggestion, nobody."

That's the actual thing.

Spoil your paper or hold your nose and vote however you want.

Don't expect my X if you don't respect my sex

Cooper77 · 19/06/2024 14:02

No, because I can't trust them on immigration. I'm desperate to save what's left of the countryside, but that's not going to happen unless we massively clamp down. In 2022, 750,000 extra people migrated to this small island. When you add in illegal immigrants, it was probably closer to a million. There's only one word for that – insanity. To house all those people, we'll have to build three new Manchesters every year.

In the last ten years, my local woods have been hacked down to build two giant housing estates, and a second housing estate has been built at the other end of the village. I drove to a village two miles from here last week and was shocked to see yet another massive housing estate going up – including a block of flats. When we're building blocks of flats out in the countryside you know something is wrong. As if all that wasn't enough, we've just been told that the long road connecting our village to the local town is going to have 800 new homes built alongside it. That road is choked with traffic NOW, so what the hell is it going to be like when those houses are built? And no matter how many of these ghastly rabbit hutches they jam on top of another, it's never enough. We always need more, more, more.

If the Green party really cared about the environment, they'd be fanatically campaigning for birth control and family planning across the world. I know someone will say "actually, we need more babies, not fewer," but they forget three things. First of all, the world's population has exploded over the last 100 years. In 1900, the were a billion of us. By 1960 that had trebled to three billion. It's now eight billion and we're heading for ten. So even if the world's population does begin to fall (which it's predicted to do in the 2060s) it will be falling from a great height. Second, though the birth rate is falling in Europe, in Africa it is booming, and the African population is going to double – right in the middle of a climate crisis. And third, there will soon be ways of slowing and even reversing human ageing. Lifespans of 130 or 150 will soon be normal, meaning people won't be dying and making room.

I'm green to the bone, in the sense that I want to save beautiful woodland and rivers and so on. I'm also keen to help in the battle against climate change. But there are two issues that scare the hell out of me, and they're both closely related to climate change. The first is overpopulation and the second is the mass movement of people. We're facing a double nightmare in which the world's population peaks just as climate change is begins to cause havoc.

Clearinguptheclutter · 19/06/2024 13:53

I would but it’s a waste of time in the GE
however the greens have a few seats on our council and I have voted for them in local elections and will do so again

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:48

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:45

Maybe just change your mindset….become a glass half full person ……and don’t vote Green Party 😊

By nature I am an idealistic optimist (read, idiot). The situation in my home town has taken that glass, poured out the contents and shattered it into pieces.

Voting for the status quo and expecting different makes me a complete fool.

Vote who, then. Literally nobody has a better suggestion, nobody.

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bellinisurge · 19/06/2024 13:48

If Rosie Duffield or Tonia Antoniazzi were the candidate in my constituency, I would vote Labour in a heartbeat

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:45

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:41

No funds to move. I will ask the council to assist, from their magic money tree.

Maybe just change your mindset….become a glass half full person ……and don’t vote Green Party 😊

BadBarry · 19/06/2024 13:41

No they hate women

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:41

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:27

So what’s keeping you in this ‘shitty awful country’ OP ?

No funds to move. I will ask the council to assist, from their magic money tree.

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NeedToChangeName · 19/06/2024 13:37

Vote for Patrick Harvie and Lorna Slater? No way, sorry

magicmole · 19/06/2024 13:36

GatherlyGal · 19/06/2024 11:34

Maybe @boombang but they don't get treated very well by the party. Many have been booted out for their views.

Including people who have been members of the Greens since the 1980s. Others like me (a former GPEW and Green Party Women member) have had enough and quit. I left over the the Challenor debacle (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/12/green-party-failed-to-properly-investigate-child-abuser-report) then rejoined only to see talented women being suspended for wanting to uphold the current law. I've now left for good. There are some wonderful, dedicated people in the local party who are still focused on environmental issues but the national party seems to have lost its collective mind because of identity politics.

Just like parts of the Tory party became "Blukip", the change in the Greens seemed to be more noticeable when Starmer took over the Labour leadership and some people jumped ship to the Greens. It might just be a coincidence of course...

As a woman who believes that sometimes a person's birth sex matters more than any gender identity they might have, I'm not welcome now.

The time and money that I used to spend on the party now goes directly to grassroots (pun intended) environmental projects in the hope it might actually do some good. No OP I won't vote for them.

Green party failed to properly investigate child abuser – report

David Challenor twice acted as election agent despite having been arrested and charged

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/12/green-party-failed-to-properly-investigate-child-abuser-report

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:27

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:22

Yes. None of the parties' leaders are OK, nor have they ever been for as long as I can remember, also there are paedos hiding in plain sight everywhere. Beyond my control, all of it.

I'm simply trying to find an antidote to constantly having to look at the utter despair of this shitty awful country we live in. So far I have found 1 principled strong-minded candidate, that is the best I can do in this area.

So what’s keeping you in this ‘shitty awful country’ OP ?

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:26

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:22

Yes. None of the parties' leaders are OK, nor have they ever been for as long as I can remember, also there are paedos hiding in plain sight everywhere. Beyond my control, all of it.

I'm simply trying to find an antidote to constantly having to look at the utter despair of this shitty awful country we live in. So far I have found 1 principled strong-minded candidate, that is the best I can do in this area.

So what’s your stance on nuclear weapons? …you happy for them to be dismantled ?

Viewfrommyhouse · 19/06/2024 13:23

TheCultureHusks · 19/06/2024 11:08

I don’t vote for women hating wankers, so no.

This 👏

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:22

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 13:11

Yes. None of the parties' leaders are OK, nor have they ever been for as long as I can remember, also there are paedos hiding in plain sight everywhere. Beyond my control, all of it.

I'm simply trying to find an antidote to constantly having to look at the utter despair of this shitty awful country we live in. So far I have found 1 principled strong-minded candidate, that is the best I can do in this area.

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DelythBeautyQueen · 19/06/2024 13:14

The Greens are batshit loonies. That's why people don't vote for them.

shuffleofftobuffalo · 19/06/2024 13:14

I won't vote green because their policies are variously batshjt in theory and unworkable in practice.

I've experience of them being in charge of local govt and it was a shitshow with a lasting negative impact. Spectacular anyone could do so much damage in such a short time tbh.

Green does not equal cares about the world etc etc, they are politicians with an agenda, just like all the others.

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:10

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:45

Why is investing in education, abolishing Ofsted and abolishing tuition fees crap?

But these things aren’t on everyone’s agenda….these won’t get the silver vote

Ifitaintgotnoswing · 19/06/2024 13:10

Also i know the green ml standing and he is a complete tosser
so double no

Ifitaintgotnoswing · 19/06/2024 13:09

I’m not going to vote for a party that puts my tax up by 8%

mountaingoatsarehairy · 19/06/2024 13:08

Have you read their manifesto?

nuclear disarmament- last country that did that ? Ukraine.

8% NI if you earn over £52k. Nah.

Frequent flyer restrictions. Like how???

just off the top of my head -+ Aimee Chanelor and the non-men and all the effort they put to shutting up women now and not environment stuff

EdithStourton · 19/06/2024 13:06

I know our Green candidate slightly.
And the answer is a resounding NO.