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If you knew the Greens would win in your seat you'd vote for them

210 replies

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:07

In other words, people don't vote Green mainly because they think they have no chance.

Their manifesto on Education seems to correspond with a lot of views on mumsnet, aibu?

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TheKeatingFive · 19/06/2024 17:25

The Greens in government in Scotland are insane. So a hard no from me.

CaravaggiosCat · 19/06/2024 17:22

No bloody chance. Rather vote Tory.

zaxxon · 19/06/2024 16:58

It's admirable that they prioritise the environment, but their manifesto is so unworkable that it's laughable. Aren't they promising something like £140bn in extra spending?

I'm not bothered about the sex/gender issue, but their continuing insistence on legalising drugs is enough to ensure I'll never vote for them.

jeaux90 · 19/06/2024 16:56

Greens are batshit, some of the nonsense they talk in Scottish Parliament just beggars belief.

Oh yes and they are woman hating w⚓️s

OrwellianTimes · 19/06/2024 16:47

The Green Party utterly screwed up recycling in Brighton, so no, I don’t think they stand for what they are meant to.

siameselife · 19/06/2024 16:43

Before they get anywhere near power they will become less radical and drop some of the dafter stuff,

I thought that before they went into government in Scotland, if anything their beliefs seemed to get more extreme and their capacity to accept different views smaller.

Penfeatherington · 19/06/2024 16:38

Less intervention and more choice for women in labour is a good thing, personally I would want to ban forceps

More choice yes. Not necessarily less intervention. If a woman wants a c section, she should be able to have one, no ifs, ands, buts or targets.

Liliee · 19/06/2024 16:06

Mayhemmumma · 19/06/2024 15:58

Yes I'll vote green I'm done with tactical voting and can't abide torries but labour aren't the right party for me.

Less intervention and more choice for women in labour is a good thing, personally I would want to ban forceps.

I don't agree with their trans policy entirely but it appears based on wanting to respect people's identities and I don't oppose that so long as women's spaces are still upheld. No party has very effectively focused on women's rights - the legal system is appalling and is heavily victim blaming.

As a society I think mass consumerism is a real concern, as a country we don't work we buy in - be it food, clothing or medical expertise etc. This impacts the economy, workforce, pollution, waste and is ethically misguided.

Why wouldn't we want to protect our planet, green space and nature? It isn't a hippy whim it's essential for our lives, our children and grandchildren.

Make public transport less expensive and help so many as well as the environment.

That seems to be an wander through your own beliefs. Do you really know how far they tally with what the Green Party actually do when they have some power?

Have you had a look at the 'achievements' of Scottish Greens in coalition?

Not this for starters: so long as women's spaces are still upheld.

GabriellaMontez · 19/06/2024 16:01

people don't vote Green mainly because they think they have no chance.

No, people don't vote Green because they are women hating wankers.

Mayhemmumma · 19/06/2024 15:58

Yes I'll vote green I'm done with tactical voting and can't abide torries but labour aren't the right party for me.

Less intervention and more choice for women in labour is a good thing, personally I would want to ban forceps.

I don't agree with their trans policy entirely but it appears based on wanting to respect people's identities and I don't oppose that so long as women's spaces are still upheld. No party has very effectively focused on women's rights - the legal system is appalling and is heavily victim blaming.

As a society I think mass consumerism is a real concern, as a country we don't work we buy in - be it food, clothing or medical expertise etc. This impacts the economy, workforce, pollution, waste and is ethically misguided.

Why wouldn't we want to protect our planet, green space and nature? It isn't a hippy whim it's essential for our lives, our children and grandchildren.

Make public transport less expensive and help so many as well as the environment.

FredtheCatsMum · 19/06/2024 15:40

I will vote Green. I live in a safe Labour seat and I want to support them. I disagree with them on some things, agree on a lot more. There are some noisy ones who get a lot of attention, but also many good candidates. Adrian Ramsey (Co leader ) is one. Before they get anywhere near power they will become less radical and drop some of the dafter stuff, but meantime, a bit of diversity of thinking would help our parliament.

TheBanffie · 19/06/2024 15:10

Hell no. Woman hating wankers sums it up nicely, with a side order of total incompetence. The Scottish Gov is being sued by Biffa for £200 million over the Greens failed deposit return scheme, they've slashed the roads budget and wanted to completely kill the Scottish fishing industry with the protected marine reserve proposals, and have banned new wood burning stoves even in rural areas with unreliable mains services.

Penfeatherington · 19/06/2024 15:00

I wouldn't vote for them at all after their suggested policy to drive down c section numbers because too many women are having sections. The policy was not to improve healthcare, or employ more midwives, or open more midwife led centres. Nope. Their focus is on reducing life saving interventions.

Women hating wankers.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2024 14:56

The greens have really lost their way.

If I had a sensible green candidate (not one of the 'non-men' idiots) , and I lived in a labour/green marginal I still might - because I don't think any party having an overwhelming majority is good for democracy and think there should be a few representatives of the minority parties (not a fan of first past the post).

QuickDraining · 19/06/2024 14:55

I don't want to actively disparage the Greens, in the past and at least nationally they are making the right noises. The UK is in such a sorry state it's difficult to know here to start. They are such tame shrews though with no power. Not one mention of legalising and the promotion of electric scooters, and other small electric vehicles and accompanying infrastructure. Seem to have lost their vision. But at least better than the others. Labour will likely win on a protest vote, that they'll think is some endorsement of their 'policies', and we'll end up with nothing new only slightly better than what we have. I wish we had some form of proportional representation. This is the most uninspiring election campaign.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 19/06/2024 14:55

I stopped supporting the greens when I heard them supporting open borders which very much would destroy what's left of our welfare state.
The icing on the cake is their frankly insane support for trans rights above and beyond everything else, even the bloody environment.
It's ironic that my interest in Green peace and the Rainbow Warrior sinking lead me to support them for many years and now the rainbow they display means something so very awfully different.

Rightsraptor · 19/06/2024 14:53

Hell would freeze over first.

I don't doubt that lots of local GP people are good and have the 'save the world' ethos still, but the higher echelons of the party are either bat shit crazy or liars, neither of which is acceptable in politicians.

I'm a GP member.

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 14:47

Buildingupandup, this thread was more about understanding why more people aren't voting Green, it is now very clear to me why not but the already grim choices now look even grimmer.

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Buildingupandup · 19/06/2024 14:42

You should vote for whoever you want to win. I don't understand people who think that their vote is wasted unless they vote for the winning party
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MadameMassiveSalad · 19/06/2024 14:39

I'd vote whoever would get the Tories out.

Giggorata · 19/06/2024 14:36

No, for all the reasons of misogyny and lunacy detailed above.

bellinisurge · 19/06/2024 14:35

"It’s greens v conservatives where I am."

Hard to choose between two steaming turd piles

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/06/2024 14:32

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 14:24

It's SNP versus Tory where I live.

I voted SNP until they were taken in by the TRAs.

I cannot vote Tory because their record in government has been utterly shameful.

I just don't know what to do.
I'll probably vote Labour.

I think it's SNP vs Labour here. I can't vote Tory so it might be Labour to get the SNP out, if I vote at all. I can't abide the gender nonsense.

Snugglemonkey · 19/06/2024 14:28

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 19/06/2024 11:33

Not a chance.

I live in Scotland and the Greens here are wired to the fecking moon.

I have had to experience them in government. They are loons and dangerous.

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Indeed

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 14:24

It's SNP versus Tory where I live.

I voted SNP until they were taken in by the TRAs.

I cannot vote Tory because their record in government has been utterly shameful.

I just don't know what to do.
I'll probably vote Labour.