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To not want my MIL to move into our annexe

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Groveparkmama · 19/06/2024 09:46

My husband and I are in the process of buying a house which has an annexe. MIL currently lives on her own in a rented house, which she has just found out that the landlord is planning to sell. MIL has now asked whether she can move into the annexe (assuming all goes OK with the house purchase).

I am struggling with how to manage this request. MIL is not in the best of health and, although she (currently) manages living on her own, I worry that I will end up having to help her out and well as run a home, raise two children and hold down a very busy full time job.

MIL and I have an OK relationship but are not particularly close and I find her annoying after spending more than a few hours with her. I do feel sorry for her because she has had a terrible few years with her husband leaving her, ill health and having to sell the former family home.

My feelings are also clouded because my husband does not like my parents, which I find very difficult. It is a very long story, but I don’t agree with his views about my parents. I find it hard to swallow that he can barely stand being in the same room as my parents, but I am being asked to consider having his mother live in our annexe.

My husband and I are financially contributing 50/50 to the house purchase and my husband has already made it clear that MIL would have to pay rent to live in the annexe. The annexe has its own front door and there are no interconnecting doors between it and the main house.

Help!

OP posts:
canyouseemyhousefromhere · 23/06/2024 10:22

We nearly did this when my mil died. My fil was fit but didn't function well on his own. A close friend talked us out of it telling us how her relationship with her aunt had been completely destroyed after she moved in to their annex.
Her aunt was also her godmother and they had been extremely close until she moved in. Whilst she was in the annex the aunt effectively controlled the house, criticising my friend's husband, children and preventing her from going out or on holiday. Of course it happened slowly- a sudden illness &. very pa comments. The aunt had been very generous and had bought them a new tv but then insisted on watching it because 'her one didn't have such a good picture '. In the end my friend had a breakdown & her gp told her to move the aunt out. The aunt lived in very good health until the age of 100!

Abbyant · 23/06/2024 10:11

Make it clear that if her health declines further you won’t be taking on care responsibility and she’s have to get carers. She pays rent and you have a formal tendency agreement.

MamaBear4ever · 23/06/2024 10:05

Are you going to end up caring for her anyway in which case move her next door less work for you. But if you are able to put your foot down and stick to it that it's a strong NO on future caring duties don't but the house !

Ethylred · 23/06/2024 08:50

Mumsnet is never a good place for discussion of in-laws.

gardenmusic · 23/06/2024 08:43

The ones saying OP should do it have no conception, because if they did, they would not wish it on their worst enemy.
Those that take on the role of deep care, rather than putting the vacuum round. have my deep respect, and I wish them well, but these posters are either very naiive or goading.

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 23/06/2024 08:21

Pickle59 · 22/06/2024 22:54

what a selfish bunch, have some compassion !

Have you ever cared for an elderly relative?

gardenmusic · 23/06/2024 07:36

PardonMee · Today 03:52
The only way I would consider this is if

' a) she didn’t have a key to the house so had to knock on the door. She didn’t invade your family life or private time, except for agreed times/days'

Thing is, PardonMee, as she ages, she will need more help, and that cannot be corralled - it will be led by need. Agreements like that are for the well.

' b) he built a more compassionate and kind relationship with your parents. He may need therapy to work this through. '

That would be nice.

'c) your parents also can live in the annex of the opportunity arises'

If the opportunity arises supposes that MIL has moved because her care has become too much, or she has died, and now OP's parents need care. OP does not wish to become a carer.

' d) you do no care or cleaning for her. She is not your responsibility'

With such close proximity, that simply is not going to happen. No normal caring person will leave someone in distress until the carers get there. Would you let your own property, because the annexe is theirs, become unsavoury? Because I guarantee husband is not going to do it.
You are offering kind ideas, but in reality they only work while MIL can manage.

PardonMee · 23/06/2024 03:52

The only way I would consider this is if

a) she didn’t have a key to the house so had to knock on the door. She didn’t invade your family life or private time, except for agreed times/days

b) he built a more compassionate and kind relationship with your parents. He may need therapy to work this through.

c) your parents also can live in the annex of the opportunity arises

d) you do no care or cleaning for her. She is not your responsibility

bananaphon · 23/06/2024 03:37

Crankyracoon · 22/06/2024 21:20

We will all get old (hopefully) and most of us will need care. It sounds like you and your husband are in a postion to help the woman who raised him. I wonder how you as a mother would feel if you were in this situation in the future.

I would not want my children to be responsible for any of my care when I get older.

SeriousFaffing · 23/06/2024 02:43

Groveparkmama · 19/06/2024 12:53

Thanks all for your comments.

We did not specifically want to buy a house with an annexe. However, we have been looking for over a year and we really like the house and it ticks lots of boxes for us in terms of size, area etc. etc. Our intention for the annexe is ultimately to make it part of the main house (when time and funds allow) and, in the meantime, we were thinking of potentially renting it out. We are aware of what this would entail as we have both been landlords before.

My MIL called my husband a few days ago to ask about the annexe, so I do not think it is a scheme that has been cooked up behind my back. My husband has also been thinking about the implications of it all, including being fair between all PILs (including his own dad), our original intentions for the annexe, needing our own space etc. He has told his mum that we need to to take time to seriously think about her request and that the decision will be one that is made jointly between us.

To be honest, I don't think it is something he particularly wants, but it is probably harder for him to say no to his own mum. He has two siblings, but he definitely does more to help his mum than the others do.

Just to give mention, I would suggest checking the planning approval/building control on the annexe. If it has planning approval, an annexe will often come with a condition that it is ‘ancillary to the use of the main dwelling’ so that it is reliant on the main house. and cannot be used as a separate unit.

gardenmusic · 22/06/2024 23:06

Pickle59
Have some sense!
Compassion is not destroying your own life and giving your children less than they should expect from their mother in order to become a carer for your mother in law.
Compassion is finding the correct care, not being a martyr.

Pickle59 · 22/06/2024 22:54

what a selfish bunch, have some compassion !

gardenmusic · 22/06/2024 22:09

I think OP left us some time ago.
I just want to say a massive thank you to carers, professional and family.

Flossflower · 22/06/2024 21:59

Crankyracoon · 22/06/2024 21:20

We will all get old (hopefully) and most of us will need care. It sounds like you and your husband are in a postion to help the woman who raised him. I wonder how you as a mother would feel if you were in this situation in the future.

I absolutely would not want my adult children to care for me ever. Why would I want to ruin the lives of people I love. I have already told my adult children this.

TomatoSandwiches · 22/06/2024 21:50

Crankyracoon · 22/06/2024 21:20

We will all get old (hopefully) and most of us will need care. It sounds like you and your husband are in a postion to help the woman who raised him. I wonder how you as a mother would feel if you were in this situation in the future.

Some of us find the idea of having our adult children being our intimate care givers abhorrent.

gardenmusic · 22/06/2024 21:47

Well , I know how I'd feel Crankyracoon,
I would feel mortified that I had pushed my child into becoming my carer against her will and inclinations.
I'd feel horrified that she had to spread herself so thinly between me, her full time job her children and her relationship.
I would be mortified that becoming my carer meant that her home had to be adapted for me.
I would be bloody distraught at the thought of my daughter wiping my backside, and cleaning up after me, an adult - that's a job for the professional carer.
I would weep at the idea of her doing a full day's work after I had had her up twice during the night.
I would feel like an absolute swine because I had done these things to the daughter that I love.
Oh, and it wouldn't be my daughter doing it, because I have a son - it would be my daughter in law - hell would freeze over before I did that to her.

Crankyracoon · 22/06/2024 21:20

We will all get old (hopefully) and most of us will need care. It sounds like you and your husband are in a postion to help the woman who raised him. I wonder how you as a mother would feel if you were in this situation in the future.

Cyb3rg4l · 22/06/2024 20:15

But something smaller. This is recipe for resentment and marital and financial disaster

bananaphon · 22/06/2024 18:44

Skybluepinky · 22/06/2024 18:38

As its self contained, Mayb let her move in but made it known u r not willing to do any carers duties and she’ll need to employ carers and u won’t ever change ur mind on it as yr parents will need to move it at some point.

I'm sure she'd agree to anything to get her foot in the door.

Skybluepinky · 22/06/2024 18:38

As its self contained, Mayb let her move in but made it known u r not willing to do any carers duties and she’ll need to employ carers and u won’t ever change ur mind on it as yr parents will need to move it at some point.

AllTheChaos · 22/06/2024 13:19

LaughingElderberry · 21/06/2024 20:25

Oh you sweet summer child.

Exactly! It’s like, hey @Dibbydoos, given care at home can cost hundreds of pounds a week, even a thousand, how exactly is MIL going to pay for this given she can’t afford her own home?! And once she’s there, the council won’t pay for sheltered housing unless op and her husband actually kick MIL out and make her homeless. Chances of hubby doing that sound about zero. As for why would she need care, she’s already elderly and ill. If she doesn’t die first, yeah she’ll need care, and no way hubby will be the one providing it!

LaughingElderberry · 21/06/2024 20:25

Dibbydoos · 21/06/2024 09:52

But why would you need to care for her and how would you have tome to?

She can pay for a carer surely or your DH (sounds like a dream guy, not) can help her.

Let her move in. If it works out, fine, if not she could move to sheltered accomodation for the support she needs.

Oh you sweet summer child.

OhCobblers · 21/06/2024 12:59

Absolutely never in a million years would I consider this for any parent. It never works and the women (daughter/in law), nearly always the women, are left running around like headless chickens.

Do not do it OP!

Alicewinn · 21/06/2024 12:02

I think this will turn the heat up with you and your DH, so yes agree with others, avoid avoid avoid, your home is your sanctuary.

gardenmusic · 21/06/2024 11:51

OP, are you still around?

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