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To not want to live in deceased MIL's house?

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DesTeeny · 18/06/2024 19:17

Very long story short, but MIL was very unpleasant to me whilst alive (she has recently died, and FIL died many years ago). We are very fortunate that MIL has left us her house, and DH wants to move in.

I really don't want to, I have nothing but upsetting memories there, especially of MIL being very threatening towards me, but DH is saying it's his family home and he doesn't want to sell it, he wants to live there and will not be swayed. He lived there from age 5-25, when he moved into our current home.

We'd 'gain' nothing by moving there, it's almost exactly the same as our current home (which is too small for us) and is less than 500 yards away from our house. Granted there is a downstairs toilet, but we'd lose a driveway and have to park on the (very busy) road.

AIBU to stand my ground a bit and ask that we buy a house together that is our family home, rather than moving into his mother's (we will have enough money to buy a much larger house, and still put money aside for our children)? I moved into his home before this (gave him some money to make it equal), and have never chosen my own home. I'd like us to find a family home together that is better suited to our needs rather than trying to shoehorn our family into a house which is no bigger, no better, than the one we have currently.

YABU - Let him live in his family home
YANBU - You deserve to find your own family's home

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AnotherEmma · 22/06/2024 11:08

DesTeeny · 18/06/2024 23:09

He does know how badly she treated me, he was in the house for some of it, she said things about me directly to him, he heard her berating me and shouting at me. He didn't stand up for me at the time though as it was a very difficult time (FIL was diagnosed with terminal cancer, we moved in to their house to care for him, he deteriorated very quickly and died within a few months), their relationship was also really messed up, but as time passed he has become much stronger in standing up for me and maintaining boundaries.

Then she upped and blooming died, and he feels guilty for putting boundaries in place.

It sounds as if he would benefit from some counselling. It's hard enough to have a dysfunctional parent and hard enough to lose a parent; the two things in combination must be incredibly difficult. And you said you have a 3yo and a newborn, so you must both be very busy and tired, I'm sure it adds to the emotions.

Could you try to encourage him to wait a few months before considering it? For the next few months he needs to focus on getting through the funeral and dealing with the will/probate etc, not to mention grieving. If and when the time comes to discuss it properly you can point out that the two of you have to consider the needs of the whole family and not just him and his emotions.

It's good of you to clean it btw... I'd be less inclined to do that if he continued to insist on moving in!

Findinganewme · 22/06/2024 10:55

I would encourage him to let the house out to tenants or just leave it vacant, until his emotions have settled.

Life2Short4Nonsense · 22/06/2024 08:01

DesTeeny · 21/06/2024 23:09

MIL's siblings live 150+ miles away and they have been coming up to see us since her death. However, because our house is too small to accommodate them comfortably (and our house is full of toys and kids who don't sleep...!), they've been staying in MIL's house. I couldn't let them stay if it was dirty or messy, so I've been going and changing the sheets, cleaning and tidying, slowly starting to throw some things away etc. Plus, DH wants to go down there once or twice a week to 'check in' so I may as well clean whilst I'm there.

OP, with all due respect, but it looks like you are making a rod for your own back. You husband is hosting his family in that house. He ought to be the one to clean and to look after them.

My own mother was a lot like you. She never felt she deserved rest and even later in life, when she could barely walk, she would push herself till she nearly fainted with pain, because things "just had to be done" or "I might as well do it". Because actually sitting down and enjoying herself for once was somehow not allowed to her.

Don't set yourself on fire to keep others warm.

Gerwurtztraminer · 21/06/2024 23:19

"Pig-headed and stubborn" is usually code for someone used to getting their own way by wearing people down by refusing to negotiate. It's a form of bullying.

If he's often like this over things he wants then be aware of it and if something is important to you don't give in just for an easy life.

SandyY2K · 21/06/2024 23:11

I wouldn't move there. Quite frankly if he insisted on it, then that would be the end of us or he can live there on his own and come to visit.

You're entitled to a home that you both decided to buy.

You need to be very clear, that you living there would be triggering and traumatising for you.

If he loves and cares for you, those words will suffice.

DesTeeny · 21/06/2024 23:09

Codlingmoths · 21/06/2024 23:00

Just as well because honestly trying to do any work to your mils house would be a nightmare with your dh, I suspect he’d struggle with every change. Just stick to your guns on ‘I won’t live there’. I too wondered why you were cleaning it, I couldn’t even clean our own house with a newborn and 3yo! Send him around/ tell him you’ll need to hire a cleaner.

MIL's siblings live 150+ miles away and they have been coming up to see us since her death. However, because our house is too small to accommodate them comfortably (and our house is full of toys and kids who don't sleep...!), they've been staying in MIL's house. I couldn't let them stay if it was dirty or messy, so I've been going and changing the sheets, cleaning and tidying, slowly starting to throw some things away etc. Plus, DH wants to go down there once or twice a week to 'check in' so I may as well clean whilst I'm there.

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Codlingmoths · 21/06/2024 23:00

DesTeeny · 21/06/2024 22:55

No way to add in a driveway, the house goes directly onto the pavement and then the road. Also no way to extend any further than it has already been extended as the house is on a corner and extended already.

Just as well because honestly trying to do any work to your mils house would be a nightmare with your dh, I suspect he’d struggle with every change. Just stick to your guns on ‘I won’t live there’. I too wondered why you were cleaning it, I couldn’t even clean our own house with a newborn and 3yo! Send him around/ tell him you’ll need to hire a cleaner.

DesTeeny · 21/06/2024 22:55

perenniallymessy · 21/06/2024 12:14

Is there a way a driveway could be added, or you could have an extension to it? If so you could have the place gutted and upgraded then move in.

A compromise solution so he gets to live in it but it’s basically a whole new house just in the same place.

If that’s not possible then selling both houses and buying something else is definitely the best option.

No way to add in a driveway, the house goes directly onto the pavement and then the road. Also no way to extend any further than it has already been extended as the house is on a corner and extended already.

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Life2Short4Nonsense · 21/06/2024 22:05

DesTeeny · 20/06/2024 19:42

We're in our thirties and have a newborn and a 3 year old. I think being mortgage free is very much part of his thinking, we only have a very small mortgage as is though, we'd be able to pay it off, including any penalties, with the inheritance without selling her house.

I don't think there are huge problems in our relationship, I think he's just thinking with his heart rather than his head.

YOU'RE?! maintaining both homes? Good god, why? Surely, this is your husband's job. You already have a house to care for and a new born. Or is he not pulling his weight there too?

Furthermore, you don't have to be landlords. You can use an agency to maintain the place hassle free. Either way, I would leave this all to your husband, just be adamant you won't mover there.

laylababe5 · 21/06/2024 22:01

pigsDOfly · 21/06/2024 19:16

They've already got a house with a driveway without having to go to all the expense and hassle of adding one and upgrading a house OP doesn't want to live in.

It's not going to be a whole new house unless they tear it down and build another house.

Agree

rainbowbee · 21/06/2024 19:57

I am very sentimental about homes and I get where your dh is coming from. He's grieving and nostalgic. That said, you are now in a very fortunate position thanks to his mother. You gain nothing from moving into her house, but by selling it, you get to pick your children's family home together. How lovely is that. Can you present it to him as looking into the future and moving forward, thanks to the support and memories of what came before, rather than taking a step back? Let him keep the furniture if he wants, cuttings from the garden could be nice too.

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 21/06/2024 19:48

ZenNudist · 18/06/2024 19:24

No driveway and busy road are deal breakers. Stop making it about unpleasant memories and start making it about what is practical.

This. For no other reason, and even if your MIL was an angel, I'd refuse to move. YANBU.

pigsDOfly · 21/06/2024 19:16

perenniallymessy · 21/06/2024 12:14

Is there a way a driveway could be added, or you could have an extension to it? If so you could have the place gutted and upgraded then move in.

A compromise solution so he gets to live in it but it’s basically a whole new house just in the same place.

If that’s not possible then selling both houses and buying something else is definitely the best option.

They've already got a house with a driveway without having to go to all the expense and hassle of adding one and upgrading a house OP doesn't want to live in.

It's not going to be a whole new house unless they tear it down and build another house.

Britinme · 21/06/2024 15:14

If you sell both houses you could probably afford a house that was an upgrade on either and have something of a cash cushion left over. Maybe start quietly looking to see what you could get in an area you'd like to live in, and tempt him with that?

perenniallymessy · 21/06/2024 12:14

Is there a way a driveway could be added, or you could have an extension to it? If so you could have the place gutted and upgraded then move in.

A compromise solution so he gets to live in it but it’s basically a whole new house just in the same place.

If that’s not possible then selling both houses and buying something else is definitely the best option.

laylababe5 · 21/06/2024 09:53

sprigatito · 18/06/2024 19:30

No. If one half of a couple hates it, it's off the table. If he is so arrogant as to think he has the right to insist, then he can move there on his own. Dickhead.

His mother died. Have a little compassion at least. As other posters have said, he is likely making a decision based on emotions and memories rather than practicalities. I'd be inclined to just park it for a while and come back to it when it's less raw, when he can be more logical about it.

pollymere · 21/06/2024 09:43

I think renting it out for the time being is the best option. This will help you save money towards your own forever home and help him say goodbye to the family home.

WhistPie · 20/06/2024 23:50

misscris · 20/06/2024 23:31

If you keep it for more than a year, whether you rent it out or not, you will be liable for capital gains tax on the sale price of whichever one you decide to sell.

Only on the difference in value between that when you inherited it and the price you received for it (less costs of sale)

misscris · 20/06/2024 23:31

PrueRamsay · 18/06/2024 19:32

I would remind DH of the adage that you should wait a year from bereavement before making major life decisions.

Could you rent it out in the meantime?

YANBU and I would not be bullied into moving in.

If you keep it for more than a year, whether you rent it out or not, you will be liable for capital gains tax on the sale price of whichever one you decide to sell.

Dogsbreath7 · 20/06/2024 20:15

You married a man who lived at home till he was 25 (at a time when that WAS unusual) and even when he did he bought a house 500m away from his ‘mummy’.

Didn't you see the writing on the wall there?

he may not be swayed but you don’t need to be either.

as someone else said remove the emotion and focus on the practicalities.

DesTeeny · 20/06/2024 19:42

MMAS · 20/06/2024 18:39

I would be asking why exactly and at the same time seeing a solicitor privately before you commit to anything if there is any doubt at all that there is a problem in your marriage. You haven't said how old you both are which could be a factor in his thinking nor have you said the ages of your children. It could be his judgement is being clouded by thinking you both will be mortgage free - could that be it?

We're in our thirties and have a newborn and a 3 year old. I think being mortgage free is very much part of his thinking, we only have a very small mortgage as is though, we'd be able to pay it off, including any penalties, with the inheritance without selling her house.

I don't think there are huge problems in our relationship, I think he's just thinking with his heart rather than his head.

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BlueMoanday · 20/06/2024 18:55

My DH and I nearly bought my grandparents' house. But then decided against it.
BEST DECISION EVER!
It would never have just been our home it would have been MY family history and DH would have been disadvantaged because of it.
We are so happy in the house we chose with no ties.
So I advise for you to definitely not move in there. Tell your DH his sentimentality is misplaced and he is putting nostalgia before your real feelings.

MMAS · 20/06/2024 18:39

I would be asking why exactly and at the same time seeing a solicitor privately before you commit to anything if there is any doubt at all that there is a problem in your marriage. You haven't said how old you both are which could be a factor in his thinking nor have you said the ages of your children. It could be his judgement is being clouded by thinking you both will be mortgage free - could that be it?

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 20/06/2024 13:56

DesTeeny · 19/06/2024 21:23

Thank you, because it's so close to our house I'm now maintaining both homes, so going over once or twice a week and cleaning etc. but it is a good thing to think of. Fortunately MIL was quite house proud, it's full to the rafters with stuff, but it is well maintained so hopefully it'll be OK with me nipping in and doing the basics.

Great opportunity to take some of her stuff to the tip, or symbolically set fire to it in the back garden.......

DesTeeny · 19/06/2024 21:23

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/06/2024 16:50

I don't think we're going to rent it out regardless of what happens. We both have stressful jobs, don't need to he landlords on top of that

That's understandable, OP, but do be aware of the maintenance that'll be needed if any sale is delayed while your DH comes to terms with this ... especially so if the place wasn't terribly well maintained when MIL was alive

Empty houses can deteriorate surprisingly fast, and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that DH is insisting "Why let it go to rack and ruin when we could be living there?" Sad

Thank you, because it's so close to our house I'm now maintaining both homes, so going over once or twice a week and cleaning etc. but it is a good thing to think of. Fortunately MIL was quite house proud, it's full to the rafters with stuff, but it is well maintained so hopefully it'll be OK with me nipping in and doing the basics.

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