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Boss wanting 8 weeks notice on a zero hours contract

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Mermaidlori · 18/06/2024 17:36

I'm currently working in a job a couple of days a week on a zero hours contract with no notice period stated. I've just been verbally offered my dream job in a hospital to progress in my career and gain professional qualifications. I'm waiting on the offer in writing to come through this week.
I stupidly gave my boss the heads up that I would be leaving as the nature of my job means I have clients booked in a few weeks in advance. I wanted to let my boss know with plenty of time in advance so she could cover my shifts. I explained I would give 4 weeks notice as soon as my offer comes this week.
My boss has now demanded that I work 8 weeks notice and that I'm letting the team and clients down if I don't. My boss has been rude and snappy to me every time I've seen her.
On a side note my boss give me a days notice if a venue I'm working at won't be running and I lose the pay. AIBU giving 4 weeks notice?

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mumda · 18/06/2024 21:51

Zero hours works both ways.they have no obligation to offer you hours and you have no obligation to do any.

FuckTheClubUp · 18/06/2024 21:49

One day, I’m there. The next day, I’m not. 8 weeks my arse

SmokeBlackCat · 18/06/2024 21:46

Starmonkeys · 18/06/2024 21:42

I know you can’t go back in time but I think in future if you are planning on moving jobs you should wait until you’ve had the offer / contract in writing and you’ve had all checks done and complete.

I think if you had waited for your checks to come through and a contract sent, hand in notice give a week (which is fair on a 0 hours contract) you would of been fine.

I also agree with this.

Don’t give your manager a ‘heads up’ you’re leaving. Just hand in your notice at the relevant time. And be helpful during handover.

The exceptions are an internal move when it’s good practice (and sometimes mandated) you tell your current manager you’re applying. And I know some eduction jobs take up references from your current manager at an earlier stages in the princess so you need to tell them.

SmokeBlackCat · 18/06/2024 21:43

“If you were needed to support clients you’d have been employed on a salaried contract, properly. “

This 100%.

I am the most conscientious person in the world and even I think your manager is massively taking the p here. Your offer of 4 weeks notice is generous in the circumstances. If she’s making your life unpleasant I’d be asking the new job if you could start asap and giving a week’s notice to the current place.

Starmonkeys · 18/06/2024 21:42

I know you can’t go back in time but I think in future if you are planning on moving jobs you should wait until you’ve had the offer / contract in writing and you’ve had all checks done and complete.

I think if you had waited for your checks to come through and a contract sent, hand in notice give a week (which is fair on a 0 hours contract) you would of been fine.

WhereAreWeNow · 18/06/2024 21:40

As others have said, check your contract and give the required notice. Not a day more. Congratulations on the new job 😊

OrangeCrushes · 18/06/2024 21:38

Lol. I hope that you get the offer letter soon.

One week before your desired end date, you should write a respectful but firm letter alluding to the poor job conditions (and their treating you like a zero hours employee), and stating that even though you could quit without any notice, as per your contract, you are providing them with one week's notice as a courtesy.

PeloMom · 18/06/2024 21:36

I put UABU to even entertain her bs. Check your contract but to me 4 weeks sounds very generous (I have never seen a 0 hr contract’s t&c though)

KeyWorker · 18/06/2024 21:33

Your boss doesn’t get to have it both ways. He can’t have 0 hours workers going week to week not knowing how much work they will be offered then expect 8 (8!!) weeks notice from them. If he wants a notice period then he needs his staff on a proper contract.

0 hours contracts should be outlawed in my opinion.

Justwonderingifthisisnormal · 18/06/2024 21:32

I voted UABU because I would give one weeks notice max based on the fact you only work 2 days a week on zero contract hours. It works both ways and that is more than enough. Of course, give 4 weeks notice, but only if its suits you.

TippedOverTheGravyJug · 18/06/2024 21:29

I'd give a week .

Lokshen · 18/06/2024 21:28

Mermaidlori · 18/06/2024 17:46

My boss has emailed me today on my day off demanding I give her answers immediately. I was thinking the hospital might take time to do all their checks but have said they would love for me to start as soon as my DBS check comes back and they have done a occupational health check and employment checks. I'm hoping this is not too long a wait.

NHS HR- minimum 8 weeks probably! That said, you can reassure them you can start immediately they are ready as your current job does not require notice as such- you are unavailable!

Shoemadlady · 18/06/2024 21:28

I work in HR and you have no contract of employment or notice period contractually so he absolutely cannot make you work 8 weeks notice. I would agree in what you think is acceptable and leave at that end point whether he likes it or not.

pangolina · 18/06/2024 21:25

Does your contract state anything about mutuality of obligation? How far in advance are rotas done?
If no notice period is defined you only need to give statutory notice of one week.

FluffyRabbitGal · 18/06/2024 21:23

I wouldn’t give them a moment more notice than my contract says i had to. The fact that she will cancel work with very little notice or fails to offer a contract with set hours along with the accrued benefits of that shows just how little she thinks of you and your colleagues.

RawBloomers · 18/06/2024 21:18

Unless you have some sort of non-compete or other restrictions on working another job, agree to 8 weeks notice. Hand that notice in the day before you start your new job, but turn down all the hours she offers during that 8 weeks.

Do not, at this point, pay any attention to your feelings of responsibility for the business or the clients. Your boss is treating you badly as an employee and you need to look after your own career, not her business or her clients.

I would definitely not give 4 weeks notice if you think she will stop offering you work during that time.

CheeseyOnionPie · 18/06/2024 21:15

How much notice do they give staff if they lay them off? I bet it’s not 8 weeks

Zero hours contract means no notice from either party is required. Stick to your guns, you boss sounds like a toxic arsehole

SwimmingSnake · 18/06/2024 21:14

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Starlightstarbright3 · 18/06/2024 21:12

I would also just be aware how slow nhs is . I got a job in the nhs a few years ago. The whole process was going to take so long I got a job elsewhere ..

My D’s had basic DBS turn around in 10 days but will vary from area to area . I assume you have a recent one which will help the process

JenniferBooth · 18/06/2024 21:02

Remind the cheeky hypocritical cunt that zero hours works both ways

PCcrisps · 18/06/2024 21:01

I'd be, very professioanlly, explaining that this is the downside of using zero hour contracts

Singersong · 18/06/2024 20:58

Your boss is reaping what she has sown.

tiggergoesbounce · 18/06/2024 20:47

They don't get all the perks of a zero hours contract and giving their employees no rights but expect you to give them more...absolutely not !!

Createausername1970 · 18/06/2024 20:30

SauvignonBlonk · 18/06/2024 17:40

Zero hours contracts work both ways in my book! What does it say in your contract though? Does it state a notice period?

Indeed they do. I have a zero hours contract and it works well for me, but my boss sounds far more reasonable than yours.

But you are under no obligation to take hours offered, so you could give 8 week notice, and just not be available for the last couple of weeks.