DS threw bully’s phone in lake

How does the mother know your phone number? Do you know her?

Well done to your son!

She won't do it again now will she?

The mum can get fucked. Call it the price you pay for having a little shit of a daughter. Someone who thinks it's funny, or appropriate, to film the bullying of a kid.

Only if it can be proven to be the result of the parents negligence. Otherwise, they are not automatically responsible for the financial damage.

Play stupid games: win stupid prizes. I wouldn't be buying her a replacement phone. If her parents want to sue for the cost of it then let them do that.

I don't know what it's like in the UK but over here they take someone filming bullying just as serious as those doing the physical harm especially when its for malicious purposes. Lots of kids at our school had been expelled for filming and sharing fights.

Who cares about the sex, girls can be bloody vicious.

Hopefully the bully (and their friends) have learned a lesson. Pretty sure they won’t pursue with police etc as their bullying and video actions are also criminal.

Parents are responsible for damage done by their kids regardless of whether they're 13 or older. That's the law.

She did. In OPs post she said the girl hit him after he threw the phone. It might have been after the event, buy she did assault him.

Give over!!! And what about the little asshole who recorded while he was having his books thrown on the floor?!

Tell your DS WELL DONE!

I wouldn't be paying. Doubt the police will care and as for insurance chasing you over it 😂 give over.

She didn't assault him she was watching and possibly filming. I suspect if anything he assaulted her in order to get her phone off her, I doubt she gave it to him willingly. She shouldn't have been filming what was happening, but that is no reason to throw her phone in the lake and that was probably the only real evidence of what actually happened. No one comes out shining from this.

The only thing we know is that your son threw her phone into the lake yet she is the one getting called a bully.

For everyone saying Bullying is not a crime, that is factually incorrect. The law covers these instances:

-violence or assault
-theft
-repeated harassment or intimidation, for example name calling, threats and abusive phone calls, emails or text messages
hate crimes

People should not put up with Bullying. I'd say no and advise if she's wants to take it any further and there any further instances of Bullying, you'll be going to the police.

https://www.gov.uk/bullying-at-school

If the mother and her bully of a daughter pursue the issue, buy her the shittiest second hand phone you can find and say it's all you can afford.

I needed an expensive car reparation as a result (2 guys fighting in my street and my car in the way. Electronic wing mirror ripped off and window smashed in). Dealer needed to order the part so I was left without car for over a week... which was extra crap as I have 2 disabled children, weekly hospital appointments and a long commute. Had to cancel appointments as a result. Luckily I was able to WFH. But still, couldn't care less! useless bunch

Maybe not; substitute 'Tesco' with 'an extremely rich individual' if you will.

Nevertheless, I've read that one of the main problems with shoplifting in supermarkets is that, even there, the police have made it clear that they don't care if it's under £200 - thus giving thieves the green light to freely steal up to £199-worth of goods as often as they like.

She learned the hard way!

I wondered this, actually.

Did OP's DS think "Right, I'm going to grab her phone and then throw it into that lake, so that it will be lost and damaged"... or was it just his priority to prevent the filming, so he grabbed the phone from her and it went flying, with there happening to be a lake next to them?

Bearing in mind that the bullies, including the girl with the phone condoning/abetting it, had the privilege of foreknowledge about what they were going to do and when, whereas the victim was forced to act impulsively to fight their actions.

I know it's not the same thing, but if somebody physically attacks you and you try to fight them off, they haven't given you the time - even if you were somehow minded to care - to make sure that you don't hurt them at all, whilst you're struggling to prevent them from hurting you.

Oh give over. Do you seriously think the police are going to try and get witness statement from all the children? All of which will differ wildly as the bullying kids try to lie their way out of it. And you honestly think the CPS will then take that to court to punish a 13-year-old? You're delusional.

It's called karma. Tell mother to keep her brat under control

Not sure the supermarket example holds anymore, given that supermarkets are saying theft is out of control.

Interesting, isn't it, how they only judge it by the actual value stolen and pay no concern to the effect on the victim?

So they would bother if somebody stole £1,000+ from Tesco, but not if a poor person lost a few hundred that they needed for their rent/council tax/food. Hmmm.

Maybe he didn't want the footage shared. Adults would see it as proof but maybe not kids.

This is quite a good take !

So was the girl who owned the phone joining in on the bullying or filming (or both)?