Ageism.

Some are but less so compared to the other way round.

Older women are anti younger women equally wouldn't you say?

Young women are anti-older women on here and I don't know why - they should be trying to bring down the patriarchy not support it. You don't see forum after forum of young men making ageist comments about older men - they have better things to do.

@Shakeoffyourchains

'I've noticed that older people seem to find it very hard to distinguish between broad generalisations and personal attacks on them as individuals.I've noticed that older people seem to find it very hard to distinguish between broad generalisations and personal attacks on them as individuals. E.g., stating that older people are more likely to have voted for the tories or brexit isn't a suggestion that you personally did but is factually true of the generation. I've also noticed that ageism is only ageism if directed at older people, contempt and disrespect of younger people and their views is just stating home truths apparently. Someone up thread stated stated that the young are learning their contemptuous attitude from somewhere and I'd suggest looking in a mirror.'

The irony...

Your post is full of generalisations, not 'facts' as you call them, and blanket contempt for older people.

That is not the way to have a constructive discussion or to make your argument stand out.

This was a tongue-in-cheek response. The OP ended with a plaintive 'why do they hate us?'. I doubt she meant that in a serious way. My responses were the generalisations and comments heard/seen both here and IRL. But do you seriously think I would write in the way I did as a serious post? If you did, you need to reappraise how you interpret things, because someday such misinterpretation will be an issue.
Indeed, you are proving the 'people get offended at everything' trope

For christ's sake, of course it works both ways, but the OP was pointing out the ageism and asked why old people are hated here

Sometimes, this place is such hard work

This was a tongue-in-cheek response. The OP ended with a plaintive 'why do they hate us?'. I doubt she meant that in a serious way. My responses were the generalisations and comments heard/seen both here and IRL. But do you seriously think I would write in the way I did as a serious post? If you did, you need to reappraise how you interpret things, because someday such misinterpretation will be an issue.
Indeed, you are proving the 'people get offended at everything' trope

For christ's sake, of course it works both ways, but the OP was pointing out the ageism and asked why old people are hated here

Sometimes, this place is such hard work

I actually have encountered alot of ageism the other way. I'm in my late 30's now, it isn't as bad as it once was. Comments like "supermarkets in nightwear" show how it goes the other way too. The comments made here demonstrate the contempt from the poster, who is clearly stereotyping all young people. I hope when I am older I would have the decency, and wisdom, not to make sweeping generalisations.

I have had older people talk to me disrespectfully, treat me like I'm stupid, and in a way they would never do to older people. I am a Mother, educated and respectful, nice to people. I have found it depends on the person. There are some lovely, and absolutely amazing older people, but when I was in my 20s, working in retail while at uni, some have reduced me to tears.

Life is difficult, no matter how hard young people work, they can't get onto the housing ladder. In the 90s my dad supported a family of 4 on one lower than average wage, bought a house, car etc, and we had a decent lifestyle. Now this is impossible, even with two wages much of the time. There has always been hardships in life such as poll tax etc, but not getting mortgages no matter how hard people work, is horrendous. I was lucky that I got on the housing ladder a few years ago, in the nick of time.

Give young people a break, the world is tough!

I actually have encountered alot of ageism the other way. I'm in my late 30's now, it isn't as bad as it once was. Comments like "supermarkets in nightwear" show how it goes the other way too. The comments made here demonstrate the contempt from the poster, who is clearly stereotyping all young people. I hope when I am older I would have the decency, and wisdom, not to make sweeping generalisations.

I have had older people talk to me disrespectfully, treat me like I'm stupid, and in a way they would never do to older people. I am a Mother, educated and respectful, nice to people. I have found it depends on the person. There are some lovely, and absolutely amazing older people, but when I was in my 20s, working in retail while at uni, some have reduced me to tears.

Life is difficult, no matter how hard young people work, they can't get onto the housing ladder. In the 90s my dad supported a family of 4 on one lower than average wage, bought a house, car etc, and we had a decent lifestyle. Now this is impossible, even with two wages much of the time. There has always been hardships in life such as poll tax etc, but not getting mortgages no matter how hard people work, is horrendous. I was lucky that I got on the housing ladder a few years ago, in the nick of time.

Give young people a break, the world is tough!

@Shakeoffyourchains

'I've noticed that older people seem to find it very hard to distinguish between broad generalisations and personal attacks on them as individuals.I've noticed that older people seem to find it very hard to distinguish between broad generalisations and personal attacks on them as individuals. E.g., stating that older people are more likely to have voted for the tories or brexit isn't a suggestion that you personally did but is factually true of the generation. I've also noticed that ageism is only ageism if directed at older people, contempt and disrespect of younger people and their views is just stating home truths apparently. Someone up thread stated stated that the young are learning their contemptuous attitude from somewhere and I'd suggest looking in a mirror.'

The irony...

Your post is full of generalisations, not 'facts' as you call them, and blanket contempt for older people.

That is not the way to have a constructive discussion or to make your argument stand out.

But as I said, I know this is an issue with my mum’s individual personailty and not reflective of everyone the same age.

I'm glad you said this because I don't recognise any of those traits in me or any of my friends, many of whom are older than me (65).

Ps. They hate us because apparently;

• We all live in 7-bedroomed houses and won't give them up, therefore contibuting to the housing crisis
• We all read the Faily Dail. And believe everything we read
• We all voted for Brexit
• We don't go to the supermarket in our nightwear
• We didn't validate tantrum-throwing toddler's feelings while in the middle of the supermarket, we told them to just shut up. Which is very traumatising. Apparently
• We take too long at a checkout/bank teller window. God forbid we exchange pleasantries with the person we interact with rather than just continuing the conversation we are having on our mobile telephones and ignoring them
• We don't wallk down the road reading our phones or sharing our conversations with the entire street. Ditto for public transport. I mean, what is wrong with us??
• We don't abuse emergency services or hospital staff. We are grateful
• We can add and subtract in our heads and do long division on paper

Read through any thread and you'll find any number of other reasons they hate us!
But theyare daft enough to think that they won't be like every other old person when they are old!

Dearie me, Vestibule made a very funny observation, which, as a clearly almost dead and probably demented 60 year old living in a mansion and block voting tory whilst clogging up shops at the weekends made me laugh a lot.

I have noticed that younger people find it hard to laugh at themselves. Probably too busy taking selfies and having their eyebrows done*
*sarcasm for the youngsters

’perfectly Normal’, all my family on Mum and Dad side are from working class backgrounds, I don’t know anybody who experienced that.

As a fully competent 63 year old zI would like to know what it is you have to guide her on?

Ps. They hate us because apparently;

• We all live in 7-bedroomed houses and won't give them up, therefore contibuting to the housing crisis
• We all read the Faily Dail. And believe everything we read
• We all voted for Brexit
• We don't go to the supermarket in our nightwear
• We didn't validate tantrum-throwing toddler's feelings while in the middle of the supermarket, we told them to just shut up. Which is very traumatising. Apparently
• We take too long at a checkout/bank teller window. God forbid we exchange pleasantries with the person we interact with rather than just continuing the conversation we are having on our mobile telephones and ignoring them
• We don't wallk down the road reading our phones or sharing our conversations with the entire street. Ditto for public transport. I mean, what is wrong with us??
• We don't abuse emergency services or hospital staff. We are grateful
• We can add and subtract in our heads and do long division on paper

Read through any thread and you'll find any number of other reasons they hate us!
But theyare daft enough to think that they won't be like every other old person when they are old!

Errr what's ageist about vestal's post? She's pointing out how the younger generation think about us oldies.....although I'm still a young'un in my dreams!

I dislike the posts where children are convinced their parent is demented, when in fact it's very clear their parent has capacity, and it's obvious that the adult child(ren) just want to control finances....occasionally there have been genuine concerns, but most of the time it's pretty unpalatable, but I don't think it's ageist in the true sense just more abusive.
I also dislike it when age is used as a negative descriptor, if someone is being a dick it's not because they're old, it's because they're a dick! Tbf you often see teenagers getting a hard time on here, again it's not their ages that make them dicks, it's because they are dicks! The young'uns I work with are awesome!

What's that saying 'every generation thinks the one before or after is wrong'? 😁