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Ageism.

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WhatsUpNowThen · 18/06/2024 02:55

It's awful, on Mumsnet. Do these posters think they will never be 60?

I have to admit that I'm not too pleased about it. But turning 60 does not change my views on anything at all. I think the same things as I did when I was 30 Why do the younger generation hate us so much?

I'm on their side.

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PuddlesPityParty · 19/06/2024 12:09

Maggiethecat · 19/06/2024 11:32

FFS, have you done ramming home your point?!

Nah 🤭

Goldenbear · 19/06/2024 12:07

WhatsUpNowThen · 19/06/2024 11:25

’perfectly Normal’, all my family on Mum and Dad side are from working class backgrounds, I don’t know anybody who experienced that

I'm not saying nobody had a bathroom or toilet. But millions didn't and certainly where I grew up in the North East before the slum clearances of the 60s and 70s, it was very common indeed.

My parents didn’t come from the NE so maybe that is why.

Maggiethecat · 19/06/2024 11:32

PuddlesPityParty · 19/06/2024 10:03

You stated it as fact - perhaps consider that your writing skills are more of the issue here 🫶

FFS, have you done ramming home your point?!

WhatsUpNowThen · 19/06/2024 11:25

’perfectly Normal’, all my family on Mum and Dad side are from working class backgrounds, I don’t know anybody who experienced that

I'm not saying nobody had a bathroom or toilet. But millions didn't and certainly where I grew up in the North East before the slum clearances of the 60s and 70s, it was very common indeed.

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PuddlesPityParty · 19/06/2024 10:03

midgetastic · 19/06/2024 09:46

No body post "
In my experience
At the start of every opinion post

If your reading skills are that limited I apologise as will try to dumb down again

You stated it as fact - perhaps consider that your writing skills are more of the issue here 🫶

midgetastic · 19/06/2024 09:46

No body post "
In my experience
At the start of every opinion post

If your reading skills are that limited I apologise as will try to dumb down again

PuddlesPityParty · 19/06/2024 07:24

midgetastic · 18/06/2024 20:02

Well I haven't done a full analysis of the mumsnet corpus if that's what you are asking not having time on my hands

I think you need to Google what an opinion is because your post was written as absolutes. Try “in my experience” next time rather than just blanket no it is not, it’s been worse since Covid, it’s heavily biased and then getting shirty because it gets questioned

Firefly1987 · 19/06/2024 04:04

People are weird about age on here in general. Like they round up to a crazy degree-35 is now middle-aged apparently, and if you're 44 they'll probably say you're "pushing 50" meanwhile a 22 year old is practically a child 😆

I've always gravitated towards older people, huge amount of respect for them and their knowledge and experience. Although I'm 36 so I guess officially MN "middle-aged" now not young anymore 😔

Opinionwontchangeluv · 19/06/2024 03:56

I'm in my early 30 and one of my good friends is turning 60 this year. She is full of knowledge and like a mum to me. On top of that she is gorgeous and better looking than some women in their 20/30/40

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 18/06/2024 22:05

I'm over 60 now, but I can't be bothered to get too worked up about most of the ageism on here. Young people really struggle to imagine they'll ever get older. It was ever thus. I was the same myself in the past, I'm sure 🤣

Flopsythebunny · 18/06/2024 21:48

Toastjusttoast · 18/06/2024 14:34

My grandparents would pull me up on it if I ever said anything ageist when I was a kid, and I think got me into good habits.

There are so many children being brought up with so little contact with grandparents and wider family these days that they never actually get to know any older people.
It's so easy for them to blame strangers for everything that's wrong with their lives

midgetastic · 18/06/2024 21:37

Well I was just responding to the previous opinion that there was more agism against younger people than older people, and my opinion is no less valid than anyone else's

In fact as neither elderly or younger I would argue my opinion may be less biased than some

PuddlesPityParty · 18/06/2024 20:35

midgetastic · 18/06/2024 20:02

Well I haven't done a full analysis of the mumsnet corpus if that's what you are asking not having time on my hands

Well sorry but you’re just chatting shit then and literally making things up 😂

You can’t make claims like that when there’s 0 evidence other than your own anecdotal evidence. There’s a lot of causal ageism towards younger people which often gets swept under the rug and it’s seen as more socially acceptable so I would bet it impacts younger generations more. However, I am willing to accept I would notice that more being Gen Z myself.

midgetastic · 18/06/2024 20:02

Well I haven't done a full analysis of the mumsnet corpus if that's what you are asking not having time on my hands

PuddlesPityParty · 18/06/2024 19:21

midgetastic · 18/06/2024 17:32

No agism isn't more older people Sneering at younger

It's heavily biased against the older generations especially in recent years

It was more even about 5 years ago but during covid became very one way and hasn't improved much since then

Is that fact or just your opinion?

midgetastic · 18/06/2024 17:32

No agism isn't more older people Sneering at younger

It's heavily biased against the older generations especially in recent years

It was more even about 5 years ago but during covid became very one way and hasn't improved much since then

FindThatThing · 18/06/2024 17:22

WhatsUpNowThen · 18/06/2024 03:10

I hate that people in their 30s think I know NOTHING.

Tbh, the ageism on MN is more ’older’ people sneering down at ’younger’ people.

And this is exactly what they say about ’younger’ people.

WINGINGitToday · 18/06/2024 16:55

Jentefieldroamer · 18/06/2024 14:42

I am mid sixties and have not noticed any ageism. In fact, one poster accused me of ageism lol. I just posted that some men in their sixties are slowing down in pace compared to a man in his forties. My son is mid forties , so I can compare. My daughter is in her twenties and her friends are lovely, very friendly and my neighbour a young woman is a good friend.

That is such a lovely positive post!

ColdGirlWinter · 18/06/2024 15:07

I've come across patchy instances of what I would call casual racism from the older generation. That doesn't mean I am accusing anyone on here of it at all.

I've heard things like "I feel a minority in my own town", "fedup of hearing all this foreign chat out and about", things like that. I think those cases are borne of ignorance and not wanting to move with the times, taking on board views spouted in the Daily Mail and things like that.

Unfortunately this sometimes means that all people over 60 are likened to these bad apples and called Brexiteers for example and that is not fair. There will also be people under 30 with those views, as we have also seen in the press.

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/06/2024 14:43

Absolutely. Equal ageism about teens and young people too.

Jentefieldroamer · 18/06/2024 14:42

I am mid sixties and have not noticed any ageism. In fact, one poster accused me of ageism lol. I just posted that some men in their sixties are slowing down in pace compared to a man in his forties. My son is mid forties , so I can compare. My daughter is in her twenties and her friends are lovely, very friendly and my neighbour a young woman is a good friend.

Putting · 18/06/2024 14:38

I’ve definitely noticed more ageism towards younger posters than towards older posters.

But I’ve noticed more older posters complaining about ageism than younger posters.

I personally would prefer there to be no judgement either way depending on age.

Toastjusttoast · 18/06/2024 14:34

My grandparents would pull me up on it if I ever said anything ageist when I was a kid, and I think got me into good habits.

WINGINGitToday · 18/06/2024 14:24

TinklySnail · 18/06/2024 14:18

Younger people have always thought the previous generation was past it and older people have always thought younger people are clueless.
We seem to all lack respect for things we don’t understand or disagree with.
Social media brings together communities that ‘never the twain will meet’

I think alot of it today is to do with money, I really do. The world has changed so much, and for the worst. Young people don't need to hear from their granny (who got an 100% mortage), "if you work hard like we did you'll be able to buy a house," they need understanding. People are working themselves into the ground, and for what? I love my children dearly, but I often wonder what world I have brought them into. I am relieved they're very young, and hoping things will dramatically change.

I feel sorry for the generation below me, they have it tough, living through covid and everything else. I am relieved to be a millennial, and feel lucky.

TinklySnail · 18/06/2024 14:18

Younger people have always thought the previous generation was past it and older people have always thought younger people are clueless.
We seem to all lack respect for things we don’t understand or disagree with.
Social media brings together communities that ‘never the twain will meet’