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ExDH came out as gay

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Hostageslikethis · 18/06/2024 01:30

Hi, not too sure why I'm posting but I don't feel I can say anything to friends yet.

DH and I met at 18 and 21, married at 22 and 25, then 8 years later had 2 boys who are now 14 and 16. We divorced 4 years ago, the chemistry was gone, we weren't happy. It was all very amicable, we still spend Christmas/The kids birthdays/mothers & fathers day together, there is no bad blood. We do week on/week off with the kids so it is truly 50/50, everyone is happy.

On Sunday I took him out for a fathers day meal with the boys, his week to have the boys so I dropped them off, he invited me in for a coffee. The alternative was going home alone to an empty house so I was grateful for the offer.

He then told me he needs to tell me something before he tells the boys and that news is that he is Gay, he has been in a relationship with a man since November. If I'm honest I cried!
I don't want him back, but I'm devastated, I feel lied to. He swears he didn't really know as he had never allowed himself to explore that side of himself out of shame. He claims he was attracted to me but doesn't feel like he is currently bisexual and feels gay fits better.
He told me the man he is seeing was also married to a woman, now a widower, has a 15 year old DD who he is going to tell soon too and they want to meet each others kids/introduce the kids to each other if they are ok with it.

I came home and I can't help but feel betrayed, lied to. I don't know how the boys will react.

Any advice? AIBU to feel like this?

OP posts:
Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 09:26

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/06/2024 09:23

@Riva5784 because there is something wrong with marrying a woman if you know you're gay

You really don’t know what you’re talking about and clearly haven’t read many of the posts on here about people who have discovered their sexuality later in life. If it was all a lie why stay as long as he did?

MasterOfCake · 18/06/2024 09:26

OrwellianTimes · 18/06/2024 09:14

I’m not sure I’d put someone who is having an affair with a married person in the “decent man” category.

Who’s having an affair? Have you posted on the right thread?

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 09:25

OrwellianTimes · 18/06/2024 09:23

You said the man he’s dating is married to a woman?

If I misread that please ignore my post. I’d be much more upset about him dating someone who is married than the gender of who he is dating.

He WAS. Said woman is now sadly deceased. Hence the reference to being widowed. Hope that helps.

OrwellianTimes · 18/06/2024 09:24

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 18/06/2024 09:24

Who's having an affair???
OP's ExH is divorced and the man he is with is widowed...

I misread that

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 18/06/2024 09:24

OrwellianTimes · 18/06/2024 09:14

I’m not sure I’d put someone who is having an affair with a married person in the “decent man” category.

Who's having an affair???
OP's ExH is divorced and the man he is with is widowed...

OrwellianTimes · 18/06/2024 09:23

Hostageslikethis · 18/06/2024 09:17

No one is having an affair? What are you on about!

You said the man he’s dating is married to a woman?

If I misread that please ignore my post. I’d be much more upset about him dating someone who is married than the gender of who he is dating.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/06/2024 09:23

@Riva5784 because there is something wrong with marrying a woman if you know you're gay

Combattingthemoaners · 18/06/2024 09:22

Pamcakey · 18/06/2024 07:49

I’m in a same sex relationship and would consider myself to be gay.

However, when I was a young adult, I had a long term relationship with a man. I would’ve married him if he’d asked and he was the one who ended it. I loved him with all my heart and was devastated when he left me.

It was only when I started dating again following that and realised I just wasn’t attracted to any of the men I met, I decided to ‘switch sides’. I can’t imagine being with a man now.

However, this doesn’t change the fact that I absolutely adored that man.

I can understand that you would be upset by all this but based on my experience, it doesn’t mean he lied to you. I think it’s a spectrum. I had inklings I was attracted to women as a teenager but my relationship with him was real. Over time, as an adult, it’s morphed into me preferring to be with women.

Edited

I didn’t read this post before writing my own. Very very similar experience. I completely agree with you when you say sexuality is a spectrum.

EdithStourton · 18/06/2024 09:22

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 09:22

Who is having an affair with a married man?? His new partner is a widower.

I was just about to say the same thing!

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 09:22

OrwellianTimes · 18/06/2024 09:14

I’m not sure I’d put someone who is having an affair with a married person in the “decent man” category.

Who is having an affair with a married man?? His new partner is a widower.

Riva5784 · 18/06/2024 09:21

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/06/2024 09:15

I also think that he should focus less on identifying as gay when speaking to the kids and more on being in love with a man. Not because there is anything wrong with being gay, but because the general discourse now is that we are born with our sexuality, and they might feel (like you do) like he was deceiving them.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, but better not to mention it. Really?

EdithStourton · 18/06/2024 09:19

OP, I have a tiny amount of experience of this from the other point of view.

I have a gay friend who was once married to a woman (c1980). He said he battened down his gay feelings out of shame, assumed that they were something he'd grow out of ('it's just a phase' was a common term at the time) and in any case he didn't fit a single gay stereotype. Do I think he deliberately lied to her? No, because he was unconsciously lying to himself. Did he feel shame and embarrassment about the whole situation? I didn't ask but from his tone and demeanour, yes he did.

As PP have said, this is going to be tricky for you to navigate, perhaps tricker for you than for your DC. I can 100% see why you'd feel lied to, even though I think he wasn't lying - at least, not on purpose.

It sounds as though he is handling this well, by telling you as kindly as he could and trying to work out the best way of letting the DC know. It sounds as though you and he have a remarkably good relationship for a pair of exes and maintaining that will be helpful to both of you and to your DC.

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WitcheryDivine · 18/06/2024 09:18

@Pamcakey great post and hopefully will help OP. I do also know people who are happily “straight” and then meet someone of the same sex and fall in love having truly never felt same sex attraction before. However I think it’s a lot more likely that OP’s ex did know or at least suspect he was gay a lot earlier and made the decision to be with her or stay with her while knowing this.

Combattingthemoaners · 18/06/2024 09:18

I understand why you feel betrayed but this isn’t something personal against you. It sounds like he still respects you very much.

If I explain my situation. I was with a man for 8 years. We broke up and I realised I was gay. I loved him and we had lovely times together. In no way did my sexuality detract from our relationship, I was never pretending. I loved him. However, I have since realised that it isn’t the same for me with men because I hadn’t explored that side properly before.

I still have great memories of my previous relationship and respect him very much. I never lied to him. Sexuality is complicated, it isn’t just a case of being gay or straight. It can be fluid and sometimes it actually does depend on who you meet in life.

You have every right to feel the way you do. In time hopefully you can see he wasn’t lying or being deceitful but has been able to discover himself after the marriage ended. Try and be happy for him. It is very hard coming to terms with your sexuality for lots of people.

Hostageslikethis · 18/06/2024 09:17

OrwellianTimes · 18/06/2024 09:14

I’m not sure I’d put someone who is having an affair with a married person in the “decent man” category.

No one is having an affair? What are you on about!

OP posts:
BucketBouquet · 18/06/2024 09:17

babyproblems · 18/06/2024 05:22

I would be devastated by this and I can absolutely see why you feel betrayed and lied to. Be kind to yourself.
I would probably think less of him tbh for not knowing this earlier in his life and for making the choices he made which have impacted everyone.

I think this will be massive for the kids. I would ask him to wait longer and not make any introductions yet. I think he is underestimating how much of an impact this will have on the children. Do they need to know? I’d be worried he is telling them to validate things for himself tbh. And I probably would trust his decision making less so than I might have previously as I think it’s a big thing to have revealed that he had no idea of before. Best of luck op be kind to yourself xo

Appalling post. “Do they need to know”? Don’t you think enough trouble has been caused already?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/06/2024 09:16

It's also a really horrible feeling when an ex moves on and finds happiness with a new partner when we haven't yet ourselves

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/06/2024 09:15

I also think that he should focus less on identifying as gay when speaking to the kids and more on being in love with a man. Not because there is anything wrong with being gay, but because the general discourse now is that we are born with our sexuality, and they might feel (like you do) like he was deceiving them.

OrwellianTimes · 18/06/2024 09:14

TimeForTeaAndG · 18/06/2024 01:34

You feel how you feel but if he's a decent man then there's no reason to think he ever lied to you. Sexuality can be fluid and a lot of people realise later in life that they aren't straight.

He loved you, you have your boys. He now loves this other person and wants to have a life with him.

I’m not sure I’d put someone who is having an affair with a married person in the “decent man” category.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 18/06/2024 09:14

Aquamarine1029 · 18/06/2024 01:45

I appreciate it's a shock, but I genuinely don't believe he lied to you. I firmly believe he loved you when you were married, still loves you and obviously respects you, and has only very recently been able to come to terms with his sexuality. He lived with shame for years trying to come to terms with this. That is heartbreaking.

I agree with this

sunflowrsngunpowdr · 18/06/2024 09:12

PandaRice · 18/06/2024 02:30

He knew he liked men long before you split and on some level he would have always known.
You are perfectly right, he has lies and betrayed you and wasted years of your life. If he was straight then maybe the attraction and relationship might not of fizzled out but the fact he’s gay the relationship was always doomed.

Agree with this. Not sure why so many people are brushing aside the ops feelings. There is no way that this man never once thought he might be gay when they were together so he is a liar.

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 18/06/2024 09:12

I'm bisexual and it's so badly misunderstood. The comments on this thread are why a lot of people don't come to terms with big parts of their sexual orientation. There is still a lot of shaming in society for anything not heterosexual.

It's perfectly possible that he hasn't lied and that he didn't know. There is a big difference between gay men who knew as teenagers and have lived their lives surrounded by other gay men and men who haven't had the opportunity for that part of themself to be awakened. Your feelings are valid but they might not be fully based in reality.

Startingagainandagain · 18/06/2024 09:12

You married quite young.

He very likely realised later in life that in fact he was really attracted to men. That does not mean he lied to you or was not committed to you and then your family before that. People coming out later in life, maybe after meeting someone and finally realising and accepting the truth about their sexuality, is not uncommon.

He sounds like a decent guy in the way he is approaching joint parenting and the situation.

Ultimately, you have been divorced for 4 years and you are both free to have relationships with other people.

I am sure you accept that him finding a new partner would happen sooner or later?

In this case his new partner happens to be a man.

You also need to teach your kids that not being straight is nothing to be ashamed about rather than making a big deal of it.

WitcheryDivine · 18/06/2024 09:04

Obviously very different circumstances as we didn’t have children and were younger but I’ve had a partner tell me post break up that he was gay, it was just very hard to deal with at the time.

Not because I’m homophobic but because I’m a woman, and I had to come to terms with the idea that he could never have truly felt about me the way I’d felt about him, and yes as a PP said the fact that the relationship had been “doomed” from the start without me having that insider info (which he had had, even if not willing to admit it outwardly).

It’s noticeable to me how many of the replies are about the children coping and the ex’s experience etc but very few about the OP’s feelings except to say she’ll feel “shocked”. I’m not the OP obviously but I think she’s likely to have a LOT of feelings to work through after spending nearly her entire adult life in a marriage which wasn’t what she thought it was. And the added complication I think is that she’ll want to support her ex in what may be a tricky period (coming out to friends and family and growing to be more at ease with his sexuality) and even more so the kids, the pressure will be on to put her feelings on the back burner. There are so many films and TV programmes that feature men coming out as gay and the female ex/partner being super supportive and kind (which is great but it’s definitely a thing) and I can think of none where a woman comes out as gay and her partner or husband or ex jumps to being completely fine with it instantly and is her biggest cheerleader. I sometimes wonder whether that’s because women are supposed to just put any uncomfortable feelings to one side if someone else needs their support.

This has turned into a long post but I just want to say to the OP it’s great that you are so supportive of him and the kids but you’ll probably need to take some time to just be at home with your own feelings, perhaps think of questions you have about the past and your marriage and you and your ex sit down and chat them through when the kids aren’t there. He does owe you some time and I think you may feel a lot better if you get this chance. Just gliding on through because “good for him finally coming out!” might mean you’re burying unhappiness or resentment or loss of confidence for yourself later.

Newmumatlast · 18/06/2024 09:01

S00tyandSweep · 18/06/2024 08:26

I would suggest therapy OP, and an STD test, because it's better to be safe than sorry.

I imagine the biggest hurdle for you is coming to terms with the fact that your marriage would never have worked and you've lost your chance of having a long marriage, kids and joint parenting with a man who you can grow old with and would truly love you.

You say that your plans were to head back to your lonely home, which indicates you've not found a new partner to share your life with and you may feel that you "wasted" your best years in a relationship built on quick sand, it was all going to come tumbling down at some point and there was nothing you could do to prevent that.

To an extent, that's true. However, you did get children who I'm sure you love immensely from this marriage and any other relationship would have changed that. There's also no guarantee that a different marriage would have ended any better, you could be a different man's widow for example.

You're going to have a lot of feelings and it's best to discuss these with a professional so you don't disappear down a rabbit hole of "what ifs".

This is a big thing to come to terms with, so allow yourself some time to process it all and do get support.

If she didn't feel the need to get a STD test when they first split then there surely isn't a need to now? Does every heterosexual couple go off and get STD tests when they split having fallen out of love, each saying they didn't cheat? Really?

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