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ExDH came out as gay

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Hostageslikethis · 18/06/2024 01:30

Hi, not too sure why I'm posting but I don't feel I can say anything to friends yet.

DH and I met at 18 and 21, married at 22 and 25, then 8 years later had 2 boys who are now 14 and 16. We divorced 4 years ago, the chemistry was gone, we weren't happy. It was all very amicable, we still spend Christmas/The kids birthdays/mothers & fathers day together, there is no bad blood. We do week on/week off with the kids so it is truly 50/50, everyone is happy.

On Sunday I took him out for a fathers day meal with the boys, his week to have the boys so I dropped them off, he invited me in for a coffee. The alternative was going home alone to an empty house so I was grateful for the offer.

He then told me he needs to tell me something before he tells the boys and that news is that he is Gay, he has been in a relationship with a man since November. If I'm honest I cried!
I don't want him back, but I'm devastated, I feel lied to. He swears he didn't really know as he had never allowed himself to explore that side of himself out of shame. He claims he was attracted to me but doesn't feel like he is currently bisexual and feels gay fits better.
He told me the man he is seeing was also married to a woman, now a widower, has a 15 year old DD who he is going to tell soon too and they want to meet each others kids/introduce the kids to each other if they are ok with it.

I came home and I can't help but feel betrayed, lied to. I don't know how the boys will react.

Any advice? AIBU to feel like this?

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PandaRice · 18/06/2024 15:48

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 15:47

If I fell in love with a woman I might well choose to define as lesbian. That doesn’t mean I have always defined that way. People can choose how they define their sexuality- it’s not proof that this is how they have always felt.

You are not a lesbian if you like both men and women. 😂

Polominty · 18/06/2024 15:48

A very dear friend of mine with 4 children was married twice ( to men) when she split up with her second husband she fell in love with a woman. She’s now married to a lovely woman, her kids are not devastated / traumatised whatever, they are happily living with their mum and her wife. The oldest child is old enough to leave home if they were affected but they are not. My friend says she never “felt gay” while she was married.

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 15:47

PandaRice · 18/06/2024 15:45

If you are gay then you are gay… hes just been living a lie for 20 years and messing others around with something that was never going to last.

If I fell in love with a woman I might well choose to define as lesbian. That doesn’t mean I have always defined that way. People can choose how they define their sexuality- it’s not proof that this is how they have always felt.

PandaRice · 18/06/2024 15:47

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 15:46

How do you know exactly? There is no evidence that he lied unless you believe it’s impossible to come out in later life and not know for sure you were gay all along. Which is rubbish.

You don’t have to agree… but you don’t just wake up 20 years later with no idea you fancy and want to shag men. It’s always there.

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 15:46

PandaRice · 18/06/2024 15:44

It’s not unhelpful at all. It’s the truth. It may have been difficult for him for years but he still married the OP and had kids in a relationship that was never going to last as he is gay. The relationship was always doomed from the start as he likes men! He did lie and if he was straight their relationship may of had a different outcome.

Not sure about you but when I had my kids I had them with a man who I thought wanted to stay with me for the rest of my life and I’m sure the OP did too but instead he was living a lie and wasting the OP time. Hes had his kids so now he can jump ship and mess around the kids too!

How do you know exactly? There is no evidence that he lied unless you believe it’s impossible to come out in later life and not know for sure you were gay all along. Which is rubbish.

PandaRice · 18/06/2024 15:45

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 15:42

So? He can say what he likes. It’s totally up to him how he defines himself. It doesn’t say anything about how he felt 20 years ago.

If you are gay then you are gay… hes just been living a lie for 20 years and messing others around with something that was never going to last.

Indigococo84 · 18/06/2024 15:45

I would be devastated too. When you get married you assume it’s for life. By getting married knowing he was gay (I absolutely do not believe he didn’t know, that’s just a blatant lie) you now find yourself divorced. I’d be bloody furious . He must have known long term that it couldn’t last because he was living a lie.

WayOutOfLine · 18/06/2024 15:44

People don't always 'wake up gay', but I would say probably more than 50% of the people I know are not straight straight, in that they have had crushes on the same sex, flirted with the idea of same sex, had same sex experiences, pondered if they are bi and so on (many men also get up to all types of things that their girlfriends or wives might be astonished to hear about in terms of 'games' with other men), these are not unusual happenings especially in the teen/early twenties time. I am unusual for being very very straight! Sexuality is so much more fluid, and also depends on life stage and who you are presented with. I have many many friends who have had gay relationships who are now married/in straight relationships and vice versa, they don't all describe themselves as bi to please some other people, partly because being 'bi' is something many people are very judgemental about.

PandaRice · 18/06/2024 15:44

Wordsmithery · 18/06/2024 06:23

Such an unhelpful answer. This man lived with something he found enormously difficult for years and tried desperately not to be the person he suspected, very deep down, he really was. He evidently cares deeply for OP. Reducing his behaviour to lying and wasting OPs time feels most harsh when what he was really doing was simply trying to live the life he thought he SHOULD live.

It’s not unhelpful at all. It’s the truth. It may have been difficult for him for years but he still married the OP and had kids in a relationship that was never going to last as he is gay. The relationship was always doomed from the start as he likes men! He did lie and if he was straight their relationship may of had a different outcome.

Not sure about you but when I had my kids I had them with a man who I thought wanted to stay with me for the rest of my life and I’m sure the OP did too but instead he was living a lie and wasting the OP time. Hes had his kids so now he can jump ship and mess around the kids too!

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 15:44

So glad @Badgersbum2024 posts have been deleted. I’m shocked people are this hateful still but I guess they are.

Feelsodrained · 18/06/2024 15:42

PandaRice · 18/06/2024 15:35

You are bisexual then and not gay. It’s not the same thing. Hes said he’s now gay. Not bisexual

So? He can say what he likes. It’s totally up to him how he defines himself. It doesn’t say anything about how he felt 20 years ago.

WayOutOfLine · 18/06/2024 15:40

He might be saying he's gay now as he can't imagine going forward into another heterosexual relationship in the future. He feels gay fits him better now, but it doesn't mean it did 20 or 30 years ago, and also lots of people have fleeting or even explored bi feelings in the teen years (I have so many friends in this category) who then felt they settled on being straight, but now are not so sure in middle aged.

I know three women and one man who have done exactly this, and all frame themselves as lesbian or gay now, but had mostly happy marriages with children until it just didn't work any more.

If you need therapy yourself to work through how you feel, and you need to talk to him more about what happened in your marriage, fair enough, but it is not disgusting to be gay and ultimately that's the children's dad, saying he's wrong/disgusting/a liar is associating them with that and they will feel it. It is time to be mature towards him as a co-parent, and I would support his new gay relationship (even through gritted teeth), and work through any other feelings of betrayal and anger, which are normal when you are shocked and when you divorce anyway, in your own time and in your own space away from parenting.

PandaRice · 18/06/2024 15:35

Gcsunnyside23 · 18/06/2024 07:51

Well I am attracted to women also but it doesn't mean I'm not happy and fulfilled in my marriage. If something changed and we decided to part I may end up with a woman as a partner next time but that doesn't mean I don't love my husband or wasted his years. It could be that now he's on his own he's noticed another aspect to his sexuality and fell for a man. Whether he's gay or bi is another thing but sometimes we don't need to put such strict labels on these things

You are bisexual then and not gay. It’s not the same thing. Hes said he’s now gay. Not bisexual

WitcheryDivine · 18/06/2024 15:33

SergeantDawkins · 18/06/2024 14:47

Jesus what a shitty comment. How is years of marriage a waste of life if it resulted in two happy loved children and a perfectly amicable co-parenting relationship? Would you say the same if he’d met another woman rather than a man? What’s the difference?

IMO the difference is that if you are essentially the “Wrong” sex for someone that is something neither of you can overcome and eventually that will likely end the relationship - and it’s built in from the start if they’re even dimly aware they’re gay. If I met another man and left DH he’d be devastated but he probably wouldn’t be questioning the whole of our relationship like he might if I left him for a woman and told him I was a lesbian.

ginasevern · 18/06/2024 15:17

There are prior indicators, feelings - something lurking in the background of your psyche. It is extremely unusual for someone to suddenly "wake up" gay or bisexual at 50. That may be the age they acknowledge their sexuality but to have absolutely no idea? Not true.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 18/06/2024 14:59

I'm hoping MN continue to delete the vile posts but

It doesn't matter if he is planning to tell them. If you tell then first you are outing him. Simple

You weren't raped or abused. Don't worry about STIs (it's been 4 years, you'd probably already be aware)

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ButWhatAboutTheBees · 18/06/2024 14:49

Please, please

NEVER out someone. Even if you think you're being the righteous one. It's a horrible thing to do and quite literally leads to people being abused, attacked, killed, committing suicide, being rejected and abandoned with nothing...

Just don't ever do it

SergeantDawkins · 18/06/2024 14:47

PandaRice · 18/06/2024 02:30

He knew he liked men long before you split and on some level he would have always known.
You are perfectly right, he has lies and betrayed you and wasted years of your life. If he was straight then maybe the attraction and relationship might not of fizzled out but the fact he’s gay the relationship was always doomed.

Jesus what a shitty comment. How is years of marriage a waste of life if it resulted in two happy loved children and a perfectly amicable co-parenting relationship? Would you say the same if he’d met another woman rather than a man? What’s the difference?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 18/06/2024 14:46

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It's not simple. He wasn't even SURE of his sexuality and possibly even considered himself bisexual because he had feelings for the OP. The fact they are still friends now suggests there was something there

Its not more rape than a couple who think they are madly in love and get married in 3 months before realising a year down the line they've made a mistake.

He didn't abuse her. I'm not being hysterical

You a vile, hateful homophobe projecting massive issues and trying to encourage someone to do something truly vile and abusive by telling OP to out this man before he has chance to speak to his children!

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FellowshipOfTheBing · 18/06/2024 14:42

@Badgersbum2024 I have never read such hateful bile as I have from your posts

You should be ashamed to type such things. Likening it to rape and calling him an abuser and suggesting OP out him is appalling.

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