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AIBU to think human trafficking only happens in foreign countries and not in this country?

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Acrazybimbo · 17/06/2024 21:31

I’ve been hearing a lot about trafficking lately and always thought it only happens in foreign countries but rarely if ever in the UK as it’s never been a thing or talked about round here. I know a random thread to start but how in this country do they get away with it in this day and age with technology being how it is?

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Waitformetoarrive · 18/06/2024 08:18

Nail bars, car washes, fruit & veg picking, brothels, flower picking etc …..

All these services that are dirt cheap are run on slave labour, it is all over. Do you not wonder how they can run a business charging next to nothing?

there was a good post on here recently about a bouquet of flowers, someone was moaning about the the costs. There were quite a few replies saying they get beautiful flowers for a fiver and how the OP was ripped off. The reason their flowers are so cheap is because of slave labour working conditions.

rainbowunicorn · 18/06/2024 08:15

Please be aware that trafficking and people smuggling are not the same thing. People automatically think of nail bars, chicken shops, American sweet shops etc when they think about trafficking. There is also a huge problem across the country with British citizens being trafficked. Many of these are children that are used in county lines activity and are trafficked to another part of the country. Young British women, girls and boys being trafficked into the sex trade. Any of whom are recruited into county lines initially. It's not all about foreigners being brought into the country. It can be much harder to spot the uk nationals that are being trafficked because most people don't even realise that's what it is.

Supersoakers · 18/06/2024 08:05

NoMoreLifts · 18/06/2024 08:01

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov

Phone numbers for reporting and more info here

Thank you I have reported it on the modern slavery helpline.

NoMoreLifts · 18/06/2024 08:01

Supersoakers · 18/06/2024 07:32

Ok so there’s a nail bar near me which is exactly like has been described- cash only, all Chinese, someone hovering. Men and women do your nails. They don’t really talk apart from to ask what colour you want and there are cameras in there too. Should this be reported somewhere?

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov

Phone numbers for reporting and more info here

Modern slavery and human trafficking

The nature of the threat Referrals for modern slavery and human trafficking have increased: in the year ending December...

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/what-we-do/crime-threats/modern-slavery-and-human-trafficking#:~:text=Reporting%20modern%20slavery&text=There%20could%20be%20victims%20of,an%20emergency%20always%20call%20999.

tahinitoast · 18/06/2024 08:01

Human trafficking absolutely happens here!! County Lines, chicken shops, car washes and nail bars....

NoNameNonsense · 18/06/2024 08:00

I’m sorry OP but this post is very ignorant! I’m guessing you don’t live near a major city. Of course it happens everywhere. I actually think it’s scarily obvious in London.

Sharontheodopolodous · 18/06/2024 07:55

In my hometown there is one nail bar that is always packed

I know so many women who use it

Every 6 months or so,it gets raided,found to have 'illegals',is closed down again and re-opens weeks later

And everyone is 'oh my god!I can't believe that hw nails has been found to have had trafficked girls'

And then they go back and have their nails done again

6 months later....

On my second date with dp,we went to a Chinese restaurant

The following day,it got raided and closed down

Same problem with the staff

(I still feel awful as it had a reputation for this but I'd not heard at the time)

Tesco had them years ago-park your car and while you shop,you could have your car cleaned for £7

It's everywhere-once you open your eyes

rainbowunicorn · 18/06/2024 07:54

PrincessTeaSet · 17/06/2024 22:56

County lines is drug dealing not human trafficking. I mean it could involve trafficked people but that isn't the normal meaning of the phrase

County lines is much more than drug dealing and can very much mean human trafficking.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 18/06/2024 07:47

Acrazybimbo · 17/06/2024 21:47

How do they fly them in? A private plane?

You must be in the wind up or you never read or see the news, or just plain thick. How do you think illegal immigration’s happen?

TheThingIsYeah · 18/06/2024 07:47

@Lovesstaggbeetle

Thank fully... We've not seen too much in the news in recent years so hopefully we are tackling it.

More likely there's a lack of will. The authorities prefer the carpets and brooms approach. Because something to do with diversity and strength.

Startingagainandagain · 18/06/2024 07:45

Have you been living in a cave until recently?

Because you will find in the uk media many, many stories of women being trafficked to be forced into prostitution, people being kept as 'house slaves and criminal gangs exploiting the labour of illegal immigrants in this country and forcing them to live and work in appalling conditions...

DramaLlamaBangBang · 18/06/2024 07:44

Supersoakers · 18/06/2024 07:39

No I’m not sure. Ok thank you.

Chances are they are Vietnamese

DramaLlamaBangBang · 18/06/2024 07:41

Maray1967 · 18/06/2024 07:33

There is demand for their ‘services’ - so anyone who uses their ‘services’ should understand that they are fuelling this crime. I use nail salons that employ local
people - it might not be cast iron proof but if someone has got a strong Scouse accent and can talk about which local school they went to, they’re unlikely to have been trafficked from Albania.

Any bloke using sex workers who are clearly from overseas should realise that he’s basically a rapist. Just like anyone who uses cocaine is fuelling several layers of abuse and exploitation, including of children.

Absolutely. People having coke parties or a line with their dinner party mates need to be told time and again that not only are they destroying rainforest at a far faster rate than anything else, but they are complicit in human trafficking and exploitation of poor people the world over and children in the UK being caught up in County Lines.

Supersoakers · 18/06/2024 07:39

EmmaGrundyForPM · 18/06/2024 07:34

Yes, please report. Are you sure they are Chinese? Much more likely to be Vietnamese.

No I’m not sure. Ok thank you.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 18/06/2024 07:34

Supersoakers · 18/06/2024 07:32

Ok so there’s a nail bar near me which is exactly like has been described- cash only, all Chinese, someone hovering. Men and women do your nails. They don’t really talk apart from to ask what colour you want and there are cameras in there too. Should this be reported somewhere?

Yes, please report. Are you sure they are Chinese? Much more likely to be Vietnamese.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 18/06/2024 07:33

Acrazybimbo · 17/06/2024 23:04

how likely does it happen to British citizens? Is there a certain type they most likely go after or can anyone who isn’t aware fall victim? I’ve heard of disabled people being trafficked particularly learning disability

I suppose technically British citizens aren't being trafficked within the UK as they are just being moved around their own country. But the problem with the homeless and adults with learning difficulties are that they are used in modern slavery, so they are kept prisoner, their benefits stolen, and they are used as slave labour, domestic or manual work. I used to work with adults with learning difficulties and we were always having to ask them who they were friends with, and tell them not to trust people who befriended them online/ came to the door etc because of this.

Maray1967 · 18/06/2024 07:33

There is demand for their ‘services’ - so anyone who uses their ‘services’ should understand that they are fuelling this crime. I use nail salons that employ local
people - it might not be cast iron proof but if someone has got a strong Scouse accent and can talk about which local school they went to, they’re unlikely to have been trafficked from Albania.

Any bloke using sex workers who are clearly from overseas should realise that he’s basically a rapist. Just like anyone who uses cocaine is fuelling several layers of abuse and exploitation, including of children.

Supersoakers · 18/06/2024 07:32

Ok so there’s a nail bar near me which is exactly like has been described- cash only, all Chinese, someone hovering. Men and women do your nails. They don’t really talk apart from to ask what colour you want and there are cameras in there too. Should this be reported somewhere?

Polkadotsanddiamonds · 18/06/2024 07:21

OP may have asked naively but it is my hope many people will read this and think twice about this issue in plain sight on our streets

ttcat37 · 18/06/2024 07:17

Lily193 · 17/06/2024 21:35

What do you think county lines is? It's a huge problem across the whole of the UK.

Erm, county lines isn’t human trafficking

pinkgin79 · 18/06/2024 07:14

How nieve are you? It's happening everywhere. People get trafficked in and out of the country, working in sweatshops, nail bars, car washes, then there's cuckooing and county lines- horrible stuff is happening all around us.

sashh · 18/06/2024 07:08

Acrazybimbo · 17/06/2024 21:43

I’ve heard the horrible stories of massage parlours and car washes. I was thinking because of airport security how they get them through without getting flagged

Easily. Mo Farah and Victoria Climbie were both trafficked through airports on other people's passports.

Watch a couple of episodes UK border force. They often find people living in terrible conditions and working.

Who do you think was working in the factories in Leicester that stayed open during covid?

Do you remember the 40 Vietnamese people who suffocated on a lorry? WHere do you think they were going to work?

What about the Chinese cockle pickers who died in Morecambe bay?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/30/some-leicester-factories-stayed-open-and-forced-staff-to-come-in#:~:text=3%20years%20old-,Some%20Leicester%20factories%20stayed%20open%20and,to%20come%20in%2C%20report%20warns&text=Some%20garment%20factories%20in%20Leicester,a%20campaign%20group%20has%20claimed.

Some Leicester factories stayed open and forced staff to come in, report warns

Allegations come as city begins second lockdown after infection rates increase

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/30/some-leicester-factories-stayed-open-and-forced-staff-to-come-in#:~:text=3%20years%20old-,Some%20Leicester%20factories%20stayed%20open%20and,to%20come%20in%2C%20report%20warns&text=Some%20garment%20factories%20in%20Leicester,a%20campaign%20group%20has%20claimed.

CormorantStrikesBack · 18/06/2024 07:05

The NCA dealt with 17,000 victims in 2022, it’s a massive problem. Any nail bar or car wash where the workers don’t seem to speak English and appear to come from a country where you wouldn’t expect them to get a working visa is suspicious. Else how are they here?

CormorantStrikesBack · 18/06/2024 07:00

Acrazybimbo · 17/06/2024 23:04

how likely does it happen to British citizens? Is there a certain type they most likely go after or can anyone who isn’t aware fall victim? I’ve heard of disabled people being trafficked particularly learning disability

Homeless people, people with alcohol or drug issues, mental health issues.

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