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To want to cut off Mother/Ask how to do it?

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CollyWobble99 · 17/06/2024 21:23

I’ve always had a difficult relationship with both of my parents.

My father was a very physical discipline kind of guy, and very sexist, racist, homophobic, all the ‘Isms’ basically but he worked away a lot and I didn’t really see him much.

My mother was.. changeable. Very explosive emotionally, very violent, prone to outbursts and regularly beat the crap out of me. I remember being beaten with pool cues, cricket bats, slapped, punched, kicked, spat on, hair pulled, I had boiling hot drinks thrown on me, I got locked in the front porch with both doors locked so I couldn’t go anywhere or even go to toilet, starved for days etc etc.

I was also sexually abused by my mothers father, a man she had idolised all my life so I wasn’t able to say anything to her or anyone, about it. When he died I got absolutely paralytic at his funeral because I was so fucking triggered by everyone he saying what a wonderful guy he was.

I learned later that actually he had also sexually abused my mother and some (not all) of her siblings. It started with her at a certain age so presumably she thought I’d be safe as I was younger, but she sent me off on holidays with her parents, I spent whole weekends and half terms at their house and they took me away to their caravan in a different country for weeks at a time. I wasn’t safe, obviously.

She made no secret of the fact that she got pregnant with me to get my dad to marry her, so she could leave her fathers house to escape his abuse. Apparently she was ecstatic to learn she was pregnant. But she hated me once I was actually here. Clearly resented me. Anytime my own father stuck up for me she punished him too and he always relented, and let her do whatever she wanted.

She had multiple affairs when I was growing up and to the best of my knowledge I’m still the only one who knows about them. She used me as a cover and told me if I ever told my dad about them, then it would be my fault my younger siblings would lose their father and their home.

I developed a drinking problem as a teenager which I’ve since managed to kick. I’m have always suffered MH issues, anxiety, depression and cptsd all of which I’m seeking help for.

She’s never once been able to see anyone else’s pain or point of view, she is incredibly self centred.
If it doesn’t involve her feelings, then it doesn’t matter.

I had successfully cut her off for years and my older kids had nothing to do with her. Then she got really ill and my siblings didn’t think she was going to make it, so
I went to the hospital to see her. She ended up surviving but is in a horrible state health wise, but now she’s back in my life I don’t know how to get rid of her.

I hate her being around. I can’t stand the sound of her voice. The last time I spent any length of time with her (I went to her house, the one I grew up in, to try and help tidy and declutter for the carers, and ended up going home and attempting suicide. All the triggers were just too much)

I don’t know if she genuinely has any regrets or if she just wants someone to care for her now she’s getting more frail, but I don’t want any part of it.

She’s been doing this weird, smothering thing where she’s messaging me every day now, trying to buy me things, offering to babysit, being complimentary (she denigrated every aspect of my looks and personality growing up) anything and everything to be near to me and imho, make up for some of the shit. I remember literally being beaten just for being a ‘Fucking weirdo’ (I liked to read aloud to myself, I found it comforting. I chewed my hair, I repeated excerpts of tv and films I’d seen that stuck in my mind for some reason. I had tics and did other socially unacceptable things and was often beaten for being embarrassing to her )

I just don’t want it. I have a visceral reaction to her and it genuinely makes me physically sick when she’s around.

She was diagnosed as autistic in her early 60s so I’ve really been trying to cut her some slack. I was ‘late’ diagnosed as AuDhd in my late 30s so I’ve really been trying hard to be gentle with her because of that and what she went through herself as a child, but I don’t feel I can take it, mentally or physically. I have 6 children myself, 4 of which are also ND. All of my energy is going into not repeating generational trauma, trying my hardest to be the parent my kids need and maintaining my relationship with my (frankly wonderful, angelic husband)

I really wanted to try and care for her in the way I know she must have missed out on herself as a child, but after all this time I just don’t feel I have it in me anymore. She doesn’t care about anyone else’s feelings, or the effort anyone else makes, she’s never once been concerned with difficult times I’ve had (or my siblings)

We were left to fend for ourselves from a very young age but she still wants this picture perfect mum and child relationship with us all. I know she is ND. I know she is traumatised. But do I have to keep trying to fight all of my own trauma in order to be a good daughter?

I really want to be able to cut her out of my life for my own peace and safety but I don’t want my siblings to suffer or be put in an awkward position.

I’m not sure what I’m asking. I think I’m asking is it ok to prioritise myself at this point, knowing how hard she has/had it too and didn’t have anyone looking out for her? Will I survive the guilt if I just.. stop? I

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CollyWobble99 · 24/07/2024 18:28

You were programmed to feel like this and are having to purposely not go along with it, it feels all wrong and weird while you know it’s right.

This is insanely accurate.

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OriginalUsername2 · 23/07/2024 22:08

I liken the process to a robot figuring out its own programming and trying to over-ride it. You were programmed to feel like this and are having to purposely not go along with it, it feels all wrong and weird while you know it’s right. Eventually you’ll have these reprogrammed and these new behaviours will be the normal ones. It might take some years and lots of new discoveries and realisations. It’s quite the journey.

CollyWobble99 · 23/07/2024 21:20

OriginalUsername2 · 23/07/2024 20:20

I’m so glad to read that you have a family member starting to see what’s happening. Keep going, it does become the new normal.

Honestly I feel like absolute crap that I’m doing this, but I know for a fact that she’s never once concerned herself with my feelings, or my brothers. It’s a horrible feeling, I feel like I’ve deserted a tiny child who can’t fend for herself but that isn’t what it is, is it? I’m mid bloody 40s. I have kids of my own and I do my absolute best to be there for them. I have tried so hard to help her to help herself. If she won’t do it, who will?

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OriginalUsername2 · 23/07/2024 20:20

I’m so glad to read that you have a family member starting to see what’s happening. Keep going, it does become the new normal.

CollyWobble99 · 22/07/2024 19:07

Sparticusoctopus · 22/07/2024 17:37

Absolutely the right choice. Check out Dr Ramani on Narcissistic personality. You might find it an helpful lens.

Thank you, I will xx

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CollyWobble99 · 22/07/2024 19:05

without you as a buffer for this awful woman, your brother has very quickly seen her more clearly.

I have been worried that without me she may turn her focus to my brothers, the youngest especially seems quite vulnerable to her manipulation. The latest message from him gives me some hope that he might not stay her prey too. I don’t think I’ll ever not feel guilty about this for various reasons but it seems like every reaction she has just confirms I’m doing the right thing.

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Sparticusoctopus · 22/07/2024 17:37

Absolutely the right choice. Check out Dr Ramani on Narcissistic personality. You might find it an helpful lens.

ButtonsB · 22/07/2024 14:14

So pleased to read this.
I often think men can be far more analytical about things like this.
Interesting, that without you as a buffer for this awful woman, your brother has very quickly seen her more clearly.
He doesn't like what he sees and is quickly deciding to drop the rope.

You are not wrong. You are a great woman who has FINALLY decided to save herself.

You 100% deserve saving.
Your husband, children and friends love and need you.
Keep going and keep posting whenever you feel like it.
We are here for you.

CollyWobble99 · 22/07/2024 13:31

ButtonsB · 07/07/2024 00:22

You have got this.
Keep posting.
We are here for you.

Just a quick update, I haven’t heard anything from brothers 2 & 3 (which is normal)

Youngest brother who came around to berate me a little while ago on her behalf has sent me a message today which says ‘I think you might have the right idea here. I’m not sure what’s going on but I went to mums for dinner last night and she spent the whole time needling me to have a go at you. I think she actually expects me to come to yours and give you a bollocking. I told her I’m not getting involved anymore. I’m going to have a little break from her too.’

It seems going NC may be just as beneficial to others as it is to myself. I do still keep feeling guilty but I’ve written down some things in a notebook I keep next to my bed and every time I second guess myself I go back to it. My husband and my best friend are both telling me I’ve made the healthy choice and that’s keeping me going. It will get easier I imagine? I just have to keep going now that I’ve started.

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Startingagainandagain · 09/07/2024 08:23

Stay strong OP.

Putting some physical distance as well by moving is a good idea.

Going no contact was made a bit easier for me because my mother lives in a different country but I still had to put up with phone calls/emails and social media stalking from 'flying monkeys' on her side of the family who did not respect my no contact request.

I had to change my number, email address and I keep blocking them on social media.

I don't regret cutting contact at all.

Sparticusoctopus · 07/07/2024 19:56

Well done. That peace you felt will grow and grow. You can expect more ‘flying monkeys’ to try and suck you back in for her but stay strong. You have to prioritise your own well-being now you are a parent. Your DH is doing the right things. Don’t feel bad, that’s marriage. What would you do if the tables were turned? Be kind to yourself.

Despair1 · 07/07/2024 19:50

My God OP. most people will tremble at your story. You must now prioritise yourself for the sale of your children and your husband. Your mum will have carers for her needs. Your mental wellbeing will be significantly jeopardised by being involved with your mum again. You deserve so much more.
Time to say goodbye

ButtonsB · 07/07/2024 19:42

Continue this line with anyone who contacts you. You are trying to improve and manage your adhd...whatever works for you.
Block her on hour eldest phone, do not allow her to contact any of your children.
Tell your husband to block her too.
Refuse to see her, have any contact as you are minding yourself.
Focus on moving.
She cannot force you into contact.
Get a video bell for security.
You definitely can do this.
The long term peace will be so worth it.
Chin up!

CollyWobble99 · 07/07/2024 19:26

theonlygirl · 07/07/2024 19:05

Please, please prioritise yourself. She's just continuing to torture you but in a different way. You owe her nothing. You are not responsible for her trauma. Let your siblings deal with her. Presumably they know how you were treated? Prioritise yourself, your husband and your children. 💐

They’re all younger so know some of it but not all. We did not have the same mother at all, and a lot of things such as the sexual abuse situation she let me go into, the affairs, a good amount of physical abuse they don’t really know about. I’m the oldest and have kept so much to myself.

They do have their own issues with her, she’s never really been a ‘good’ parent to any of us, but they see her as small and vulnerable and complicated and hard work but feel sorry for her. They’ve been manipulated too but having not suffered the same abuse as I have, seem to think it’s a fairly normal relationship and are quite protective of her and her feelings.

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theonlygirl · 07/07/2024 19:05

CollyWobble99 · 18/06/2024 07:59

I do have other siblings. They’re all younger, and all male. She’s just so different with them it makes me feel like I’m going crazy. She actually wanted them though which is probably the difference. I was a means to an end. I just want out.

Please, please prioritise yourself. She's just continuing to torture you but in a different way. You owe her nothing. You are not responsible for her trauma. Let your siblings deal with her. Presumably they know how you were treated? Prioritise yourself, your husband and your children. 💐

CollyWobble99 · 07/07/2024 18:57

So even sooner than I expected, I’ve had a visit from youngest sibling today to tell me that mums unhappy with me and is feeling hurt, she doesn’t understand what she’s done wrong and doesn’t know why I’m avoiding her. I wimped out tbh and said I’m having a break from my phone as it excerbates my adhd symptoms (this is actually true to an extent and I’m looking to buy an old phone that just calls and texts and nothing else)

I really don’t want to put my brothers in an awkward situation. She has my husbands number and my older kids numbers too so I’m not unreachable as such. I’m just not there at her beck and call.

My husband is pretty pissed off about my brother turning up this afternoon doing my mothers grunt work and upsetting me and is furiously searching how we can sell up, put distance between my family and I and still work (he’s self employed so has built up a whole business)

Im feeling pretty fucking crappy that my decision to do this is affecting other people so much already, but I don’t see how I can make things better for myself (and my immediate family) without hurting anyone else 😕

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InterIgnis · 07/07/2024 07:52

She’s trained you to be scared of her reactions, and to do anything to avoid her displeasure. It’s a Pavlovian response, frankly, and when you examine it you’ll realise that despite your fear there’s nothing she can do to you. So she’ll be angry…and? What does that mean to you? Nothing. The only power she has over you is that which you give her. You’ve done well taking the steps you have, don’t allow your fear of her to take you backwards and hurt you.

CollyWobble99 · 07/07/2024 07:36

ButtonsB · 07/07/2024 00:22

You have got this.
Keep posting.
We are here for you.

Thank you all for the helpful suggestions and supportive words. It sounds daft but the posters here and my husband are really helping me not to waver x

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ButtonsB · 07/07/2024 00:22

You have got this.
Keep posting.
We are here for you.

CollyWobble99 · 06/07/2024 23:59

Cherrysoup · 06/07/2024 23:49

So block her on that one too and move on with your life. You have done totally the right thing.

I forgot to say when I posted but when I noticed what was happening I did block her there too. The relief is pretty huge I won’t lie. It feels like the spell is finally breaking.

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Cherrysoup · 06/07/2024 23:49

So block her on that one too and move on with your life. You have done totally the right thing.

ButterCrackers · 06/07/2024 22:54

CollyWobble99 · 06/07/2024 22:21

Hi everyone, me again. So I took the first step a week ago and blocked her on socials (except one that she told me she didn’t use anymore). I also blocked her phone number on my phone so she can’t call or text me.

It’s actually been a really positive move, I’ve felt so peaceful at times this week which is something I didn’t think I was even capable of anymore. My husband has told me how much calmer and relaxed I seem. The simple thing of just not even seeing her name in messages etc has made so much more difference than I would have believed!

The thing is, I think she knows now as the one SM I didn’t block her on shows that’s she’s leaving groups that we’ve been in together. She’s done this exact sort of passive aggressive thing before and she does it so I know she’s upset with me.

I’ve got that horrible familiar knot in my stomach now and that awful sense of having done something truly horrific just because I know she isn’t happy. I’m trying not to fixate on it and tell myself that I’m prioritising my own feelings and that I’m not responsible for hers.

The next step I imagine she will take will be to involve my brothers. I guess here is where the road gets bumpy.

If anything though, the sheer relief I’ve felt for the last few days compared to this feeling today just because she’s made her presence felt has demonstrated that it really is the right thing to do.

Absolutely and continue as you are doing. You’ll fell better and better. No matter what your brothers you are focusing on your wellbeing.

CollyWobble99 · 06/07/2024 22:21

Hi everyone, me again. So I took the first step a week ago and blocked her on socials (except one that she told me she didn’t use anymore). I also blocked her phone number on my phone so she can’t call or text me.

It’s actually been a really positive move, I’ve felt so peaceful at times this week which is something I didn’t think I was even capable of anymore. My husband has told me how much calmer and relaxed I seem. The simple thing of just not even seeing her name in messages etc has made so much more difference than I would have believed!

The thing is, I think she knows now as the one SM I didn’t block her on shows that’s she’s leaving groups that we’ve been in together. She’s done this exact sort of passive aggressive thing before and she does it so I know she’s upset with me.

I’ve got that horrible familiar knot in my stomach now and that awful sense of having done something truly horrific just because I know she isn’t happy. I’m trying not to fixate on it and tell myself that I’m prioritising my own feelings and that I’m not responsible for hers.

The next step I imagine she will take will be to involve my brothers. I guess here is where the road gets bumpy.

If anything though, the sheer relief I’ve felt for the last few days compared to this feeling today just because she’s made her presence felt has demonstrated that it really is the right thing to do.

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TammyJones · 29/06/2024 21:18

Good luck
You've got this op.

Sparticusoctopus · 29/06/2024 20:42

CollyWobble99 · 28/06/2024 19:46

Thank you to everyone for your kind words and advice, and especially to those who’ve shared your own experiences of similar parents and situations. I do hope you’ve been able to heal, move on and find some happiness for yourselves too x

It will take a little bit of time to work out how to manage it but I am going to make the break. If I don’t it will be me that breaks and Ive come too far and have my own loved ones that will suffer if I allow that to happen.

Best of luck lovely. We all stand right behind you. 💪

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