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CollyWobble99 · 17/06/2024 21:23

I’ve always had a difficult relationship with both of my parents.

My father was a very physical discipline kind of guy, and very sexist, racist, homophobic, all the ‘Isms’ basically but he worked away a lot and I didn’t really see him much.

My mother was.. changeable. Very explosive emotionally, very violent, prone to outbursts and regularly beat the crap out of me. I remember being beaten with pool cues, cricket bats, slapped, punched, kicked, spat on, hair pulled, I had boiling hot drinks thrown on me, I got locked in the front porch with both doors locked so I couldn’t go anywhere or even go to toilet, starved for days etc etc.

I was also sexually abused by my mothers father, a man she had idolised all my life so I wasn’t able to say anything to her or anyone, about it. When he died I got absolutely paralytic at his funeral because I was so fucking triggered by everyone he saying what a wonderful guy he was.

I learned later that actually he had also sexually abused my mother and some (not all) of her siblings. It started with her at a certain age so presumably she thought I’d be safe as I was younger, but she sent me off on holidays with her parents, I spent whole weekends and half terms at their house and they took me away to their caravan in a different country for weeks at a time. I wasn’t safe, obviously.

She made no secret of the fact that she got pregnant with me to get my dad to marry her, so she could leave her fathers house to escape his abuse. Apparently she was ecstatic to learn she was pregnant. But she hated me once I was actually here. Clearly resented me. Anytime my own father stuck up for me she punished him too and he always relented, and let her do whatever she wanted.

She had multiple affairs when I was growing up and to the best of my knowledge I’m still the only one who knows about them. She used me as a cover and told me if I ever told my dad about them, then it would be my fault my younger siblings would lose their father and their home.

I developed a drinking problem as a teenager which I’ve since managed to kick. I’m have always suffered MH issues, anxiety, depression and cptsd all of which I’m seeking help for.

She’s never once been able to see anyone else’s pain or point of view, she is incredibly self centred.
If it doesn’t involve her feelings, then it doesn’t matter.

I had successfully cut her off for years and my older kids had nothing to do with her. Then she got really ill and my siblings didn’t think she was going to make it, so
I went to the hospital to see her. She ended up surviving but is in a horrible state health wise, but now she’s back in my life I don’t know how to get rid of her.

I hate her being around. I can’t stand the sound of her voice. The last time I spent any length of time with her (I went to her house, the one I grew up in, to try and help tidy and declutter for the carers, and ended up going home and attempting suicide. All the triggers were just too much)

I don’t know if she genuinely has any regrets or if she just wants someone to care for her now she’s getting more frail, but I don’t want any part of it.

She’s been doing this weird, smothering thing where she’s messaging me every day now, trying to buy me things, offering to babysit, being complimentary (she denigrated every aspect of my looks and personality growing up) anything and everything to be near to me and imho, make up for some of the shit. I remember literally being beaten just for being a ‘Fucking weirdo’ (I liked to read aloud to myself, I found it comforting. I chewed my hair, I repeated excerpts of tv and films I’d seen that stuck in my mind for some reason. I had tics and did other socially unacceptable things and was often beaten for being embarrassing to her )

I just don’t want it. I have a visceral reaction to her and it genuinely makes me physically sick when she’s around.

She was diagnosed as autistic in her early 60s so I’ve really been trying to cut her some slack. I was ‘late’ diagnosed as AuDhd in my late 30s so I’ve really been trying hard to be gentle with her because of that and what she went through herself as a child, but I don’t feel I can take it, mentally or physically. I have 6 children myself, 4 of which are also ND. All of my energy is going into not repeating generational trauma, trying my hardest to be the parent my kids need and maintaining my relationship with my (frankly wonderful, angelic husband)

I really wanted to try and care for her in the way I know she must have missed out on herself as a child, but after all this time I just don’t feel I have it in me anymore. She doesn’t care about anyone else’s feelings, or the effort anyone else makes, she’s never once been concerned with difficult times I’ve had (or my siblings)

We were left to fend for ourselves from a very young age but she still wants this picture perfect mum and child relationship with us all. I know she is ND. I know she is traumatised. But do I have to keep trying to fight all of my own trauma in order to be a good daughter?

I really want to be able to cut her out of my life for my own peace and safety but I don’t want my siblings to suffer or be put in an awkward position.

I’m not sure what I’m asking. I think I’m asking is it ok to prioritise myself at this point, knowing how hard she has/had it too and didn’t have anyone looking out for her? Will I survive the guilt if I just.. stop? I

OP posts:
OriginalUsername2 · 29/12/2024 14:25

This is huge progress OP!

Nothing better than a toxicity-free Christmas after years and years of shit. It shows you how nice life can be.

WidgetDigit2022 · 26/12/2024 08:25

“Mother, you have always been the nastiest influence in my life. I want nothing to do with you.”

Then stop all contact.

Sparticusoctopus · 26/12/2024 07:52

That update has made me so happy. Well done for being so strong.

therewasafishinthepercolator · 26/12/2024 01:04

That's brilliant. You deserve to feel this newfound peace. You sound like a remarkable person tbh. Strong. I'm so happy for you. Merry Christmas!

JennyTals · 26/12/2024 00:57

I don’t thjnk she’s trying to makeshift upto you at all
she use wants to be able to use you now she’s old and unwell

well she can go to hell !!!

get away from her and never go back even the next time dishes in deaths doors

hiws she’s treated is disgusting and all the closure you ever need

sorry you been though this op
wishing you all the best for a new start in 2025
don’t let the bastards grind you down xxxx

mollyfolk · 26/12/2024 00:49

@CollyWobble99

She’s as damaged as I am, the difference is I’ve never abused my children as a form of release which is what I see now she was doing to me.

Well done to you for not continuing the cycle. Of course there will be some kind of context to her abuse - abused herself, autistic.... but these are not reasons for you to forgive her. You don't take any responsibility for her behaviour.

It's ok to let her go and mind yourself and your own family.

mollyfolk · 26/12/2024 00:44

God I am so sorry that your mother abused you.

You sound like you were lucky to survive it with your wits about you. You don't owe her anything just because she gave birth to you. Being a mother is so much more than that.

CollyWobble99 · 26/12/2024 00:11

I did it. I managed a whole substantial event. She completely ignored my kids and they didn’t even notice. I know that she’s probably raging and thinking that she’s giving me the cold shoulder but we’ve had the best Christmas that we’ve had in years .

I actually had a great time.

Youngest brother came over for Xmas eve and no one even mentioned her.Thank you all for helping me stand strong. I hope you’ve all had a wonderful Christmas xx

OP posts:
CollyWobble99 · 17/11/2024 21:46

Thank you all so much for your kindness and support, it’s been really helpful and is keeping me focused and strong.

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Slowtopic · 17/11/2024 14:45

Delighted to read this - well done. You don’t need any more upset.

ButtonsB · 17/11/2024 06:55

Fantastic update OP.
Now she knows.
You were simple and clear.
Well done.
The opportunity arose and you took it.

There is no need for any further engagement after that.
Tell your children so there is no confusion.
She is not welcome in or near your home.

Tell them adult relationships can be very hard and while it may be difficult for them to fully understand, you have no wish for any further contact with your mother.

Congratulations on your bravery, every step counts.

Sparticusoctopus · 17/11/2024 06:23

Also;

You sound, understandably, traumatised. Try and get some EMDR - your GP might be able to refer.

Also plenty of people have ND diagnoses or mental health diagnoses or their own childhood trauma but manage not to abuse their children.

Hold tight. Don’t give in to her attempts to worm her way back in.

You matter too and you deserved and deserve better.

Sparticusoctopus · 17/11/2024 06:17

I’m drinking imaginary champagne and toasting you.

Toxic people steal your mental
health. I think, as women in particular, we are socialised to give and care, give and care, give and care. Be selfless and kind. Pacify and peacemake.

Well I am happy to do that with people that do it for me. I’m no longer prepared to do it for people that don’t spend one tiny bit of their time and energy doing the same.

So if you were my grown up child and you suddenly pulled out of my life you would get a couple of texts asking if you are ok. I might pop round and ask if you are ok. If I kept getting the cold shoulder I would write you a letter. I’d describe what I am noticing. Let you know that I’m wondering if I’d hurt you in any way or upset you and let you know it would be fine to say and I’m happy to chat. If then let you know that I’d be here for you if you need me but that I’ll leave you to come to me. I’d then perhaps send you semi regular cards restating that I I’m happy to talk and here for you.

Because as a parent you are always a parent. Even when your children are grown up.

I have a narcissistic mother. I get it.

CollyWobble99 · 17/11/2024 00:58

Hi guys, back again. I don’t have a huge update but any engagement with my mother shakes me to my core tbh and I just need to vent a bit, I hope that’s ok.

I managed really well to not have any contact but I didn’t tell her I wasn’t going to be involved with her anymore. Pretty cowardly and not what I hoped I’d be as an adult but it is what it is.

One of my teens had a birthday this week. I haven’t made my issues with my mother anyone else’s problem, I’ve kept it to myself (barring my husband) My older kids are still in sporadic contact with her and I have no issue with that. She is not the same person with them that she was with me. Today my birthday child told me grandmas called to chat, sent some money as a gift and would be visiting shortly..

I then had a text from an unknown number saying ‘I’ve spoken to DD, I’ll be over soon. Assuming that’s ok with you’

I checked with DD and she confirmed that my mother had said she’d be over ‘in a bit’ during their chat at noon. I got the text at 5pm. I knew dam well who it was and replied that it wasn’t convenient, we have plans. I honestly don’t think I can manage another minute in her company. I’m trying so hard to repair myself, she’s the last thing I need.

Anyway I got a load of abuse via text and she ended with ‘Just be honest, I’m not fucking welcome!! I’ll butt out and leave you all to the rest of your lives!’

And I said ‘Great’

And that was it. Something and nothing. But I feel fantastic for it. I’m not ghosting her. I took a cowardly approach and I hate that about myself but she knows now.

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nocoolnamesleft · 20/10/2024 15:06

She lost the right to be called your mother a long time ago. She was your abuser. And she facilitated her father in also abusing you. Yes she was traumatised, but that does not justify traumatising you in turn. Protect yourself, and the family you have built for yourself. Stay strong in your no contact.

Projectme · 20/10/2024 14:48

So pleased you're prioritising yourself and your own family. Keep on doing that.

Where are your other siblings in all this? Does younger brother contact them and plead with them to visit mother? I bet he doesn't because mother doesn't want to control them, she knows she can't anymore and just wants to make life hell for you and her youngest child because she was previously able to break you and she wants to do it again.

Remind your younger sibling that your mother's demands do not trump your own MH. After all, she's the monster who caused your MH issues.

So glad your DH is supportive. I hope he manages to move you all away from her.

thepariscrimefiles · 20/10/2024 14:21

CollyWobble99 · 19/10/2024 21:12

Thank you all for your replies. I did read through them but I haven’t updated as I’ve been quite ill myself this week, but I didn’t go. I’ve been hit with all manner of sob stories and guilt tripping but I’m just holding onto staying strong, I don’t have the headspace or strength for anyone but my own children, husband and getting myself where I need to be.

Thank you again for helping me stand firm.

Do not feel guilty. In a just and fair world, your mother would have been prosecuted and imprisoned for the terrible things that she did to you as a child. You haven't reported her to the authorities, so she has suffered none of the legal consequences of her abusive behaviour. Yet she still continues to torment you.

You owe her absolutely nothing. You do have a responsibility to your husband and children to protect yourself and to cut this woman from your life forever. If necessary, block any family members, including your brothers, if they try and guilt trip you to resume contact with your abusive mum.

InterIgnis · 20/10/2024 13:16

You can’t ‘save’ your younger brother, and especially not at the expense of yourself. He needs to see for himself, but whether he will or he won’t is a different matter.

You may feel responsible for him because you had a part in raising him, but he’s an adult now.

Purplecatshopaholic · 20/10/2024 05:10

Well done on standing firm and staying away. Stick with it. You need to protect yourself and prioritise your health, your family, etc. Take care of yourself.

ButtonsB · 20/10/2024 01:59

So glad to read you have held on.
Fyi, we hold all our mothering emotional stress in our lungs and chest.
If your health issues are in that area, it could well be your stress that has caused it.
Mind yourself and hope you feel well soon.

Thepossibility · 19/10/2024 21:54

I've cut both of my parents off for less than what you have been through. You are in charge of your own life and don't need permission to block her. Disability or not you she is toxic and you don't owe her anything after that childhood. To be blunt you're an adult now and you need to take responsibility for your own life and happiness, don't martyr yourself trying to do the “right" thing by her because she is your “mother". The right thing is you doing what is best for you and your own children.

itsmylife7 · 19/10/2024 21:46

So pleased that you didnt give in to her emotional blackmail.

I've got a very good friend who's Mum was very similar to yours.

She moved away and I advised her to not share her address... she didn't and was very happy for 7months.

Then she got sucked back in, by Mother on supposed deathbed, and regretted it so much.

Of course her Mum didn't die for another 3 years.
Unfortunately my lovely friend never managed to "escape" her Mothers emotional abuse and regrets so much those wasted years.

Don't get sucked back in OP.

LeroyJenkinssss · 19/10/2024 21:28

ive read through all your posts and I’m so sorry that you have to go through this. Stay away as if you do visit, she knows then that she just needs to threaten suicide and manipulate your poor brother and it will get her what she wants. Seeing her now would likely actually amplify her manipulation of your brother whereas if you stick firm she will realise he’s not useful in that regard. It’s so incredibly hard and you’re doing wonderfully. Confide in your DH - he seems an absolute gem. He sees your mother for what she is - let him remind you of that.

CollyWobble99 · 19/10/2024 21:12

Thank you all for your replies. I did read through them but I haven’t updated as I’ve been quite ill myself this week, but I didn’t go. I’ve been hit with all manner of sob stories and guilt tripping but I’m just holding onto staying strong, I don’t have the headspace or strength for anyone but my own children, husband and getting myself where I need to be.

Thank you again for helping me stand firm.

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mrssunshinexxx · 13/10/2024 17:58

Don't go OP confide in your husband about the pressure from your brother and let him protect you, he is your safety net and he loves you x

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