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To think this house is too remote to be feasible

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HungryHouseHunter · 17/06/2024 17:04

Name change. Posting in AIBU for traffic. We are considering putting an offer on this house. It's exactly the style we want with more land than we wanted but I'm worried it's too far from Winchester where we started looking. To get the train station I'll need to drive, to get to the shops I'll need to drive! Does anyone do this ? Do you end up resenting the inconvenience? For example I couldn't just pop out for a big shop, I think I would need to drive to Winchester and pay for parking etc. Would need to pay for parking at train station when using it (at least twice a week). Do these things just get more and more annoying. Currently live somewhere where car isn't even really needed.

Also value for money?

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/145236887

Check out this 6 bedroom detached house for sale on Rightmove

6 bedroom detached house for sale in Shepherds Lane, Compton, Winchester, Hampshire, SO21 for £2,450,000. Marketed by Savills, Winchester

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/145236887

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Scruffily · 17/06/2024 18:46

I'd hate all those beams, and I never understand why people who do barn conversions think those massively high ceilings are attractive: I would always be worrying about how much I was spending to heat empty space, and how on earth I could ever clean up there.

OP, if you want cafés on your doorstep, and I wouldn't blame you in the least, this one seriously is not for you.

HungryHouseHunter · 17/06/2024 18:45

candycane222 · 17/06/2024 18:42

... I'd be inclined to look for a house designed to house humans from the outset....

This made me chuckle.

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Scruffily · 17/06/2024 18:43

FOJN · 17/06/2024 18:11

Another 150k, about 250 less sq/ft, more bedrooms and central.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/148998566#/?channel=RES_BUY

If I had £2.6 mill to spare I'd consider that one very seriously indeed. Also I'm fascinated by the current owner's somewhat eclectic tastes!

candycane222 · 17/06/2024 18:42

... I'd be inclined to look for a house designed to house humans from the outset....

HungryHouseHunter · 17/06/2024 18:41

Walkaround · 17/06/2024 18:40

I wouldn’t get distracted by a barn amid farmers’ fields if your intention was to move to Winchester - they are very different propositions, even if Winchester is nearby. Think of the potential effects of bad weather (whether snow or flooding - eg roads ungritted, last to have electricity restored as priority goes to the towns and cities, flooding, etc, making 3 miles to town suddenly feel a lot further than that); a large, isolated house feels very different when you are alone at night - the “nobody to hear you scream” effect, and also potentially attractive to burglars, so would require excellent security. Also, far more land than you were anticipating. If your original dream was not to buy a spacious money pit in the middle of beautiful countryside, then I wouldn’t buy it, as it’s clearly not what you are actually looking for, so is just a surface fantasy.

Oh god. Doubt!

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Walkaround · 17/06/2024 18:40

I wouldn’t get distracted by a barn amid farmers’ fields if your intention was to move to Winchester - they are very different propositions, even if Winchester is nearby. Think of the potential effects of bad weather (whether snow or flooding - eg roads ungritted, last to have electricity restored as priority goes to the towns and cities, flooding, etc, making 3 miles to town suddenly feel a lot further than that); a large, isolated house feels very different when you are alone at night - the “nobody to hear you scream” effect, and also potentially attractive to burglars, so would require excellent security. Also, far more land than you were anticipating. If your original dream was not to buy a spacious money pit in the middle of beautiful countryside, then I wouldn’t buy it, as it’s clearly not what you are actually looking for, so is just a surface fantasy.

candycane222 · 17/06/2024 18:39

It doesn't look very cosy.

It was built originally to house hay, or perhaps cattle. And it does still feel somewhat barn-like.

AnOldCynic · 17/06/2024 18:37

Motorway noise would be a turn off for me.

HungryHouseHunter · 17/06/2024 18:30

Ariela · 17/06/2024 18:28

My first thought is how hideous the heating bill will be, all those roof voids mean you're wasting an awful lot of heat on heating open space above you.
It says 'Oil gas' under the utilities, gas will be VERY pricey, oil if you have a large tank you can shop about and monitor the price, we buy with several neighbours and bought last week at 55.5p/litre vs todays' price of 56.9p/l - in winter this will typically be 70-80p, so you can buy in cheaper in summer.
Being a barn conversion you've a lovely big roof but unlikely to be allowed solar, so do check what an average monthly bill for heating and electricity is for this property - it's a big property and I think will be shocking! My friend lives in a similarly edge of urban but rural much smaller house, and has nailed the heating down to about 700l oil a year and £65/month electricity. As she's pretty much retired that's ideal.
Then, you are quite near the motorway, this will be VERY noisy, so do make a point of standing out on the patio and listening on a busy weekend day or evening. I personally wouldn't live that close, we're further from the M4 motorway and it can annoy me if the wind is in that direction. However where you are it'll rumble with lorries through the night going to/from the docks.
Then there's the lane: it's very narrow, how are you at reversing? Because with that farm there I bet you'll have to get used to it!
With just over 3 acres, this is too big for your average farmer with big machinery to come in and mow the paddock or cut and take hay, so unless you plan on horses or sheep that'll be a cost/hassle too - either your own small tractor or a subcontractor with tractor.

Really appreciate your thoughts

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Ariela · 17/06/2024 18:28

My first thought is how hideous the heating bill will be, all those roof voids mean you're wasting an awful lot of heat on heating open space above you.
It says 'Oil gas' under the utilities, gas will be VERY pricey, oil if you have a large tank you can shop about and monitor the price, we buy with several neighbours and bought last week at 55.5p/litre vs todays' price of 56.9p/l - in winter this will typically be 70-80p, so you can buy in cheaper in summer.
Being a barn conversion you've a lovely big roof but unlikely to be allowed solar, so do check what an average monthly bill for heating and electricity is for this property - it's a big property and I think will be shocking! My friend lives in a similarly edge of urban but rural much smaller house, and has nailed the heating down to about 700l oil a year and £65/month electricity. As she's pretty much retired that's ideal.
Then, you are quite near the motorway, this will be VERY noisy, so do make a point of standing out on the patio and listening on a busy weekend day or evening. I personally wouldn't live that close, we're further from the M4 motorway and it can annoy me if the wind is in that direction. However where you are it'll rumble with lorries through the night going to/from the docks.
Then there's the lane: it's very narrow, how are you at reversing? Because with that farm there I bet you'll have to get used to it!
With just over 3 acres, this is too big for your average farmer with big machinery to come in and mow the paddock or cut and take hay, so unless you plan on horses or sheep that'll be a cost/hassle too - either your own small tractor or a subcontractor with tractor.

Sugarfish · 17/06/2024 18:24

It can be hard to get a mortgage on a barn conversion, many lenders won’t do it. I was a mortgage underwriter for a few years and never actually saw an application for one.

Not saying don’t try, just something to think about as it could be a lot of hassle. I’d love a property like that if I could afford it.

SherbetDips · 17/06/2024 18:22

I grew up in the middle of knowhere and we drove everywhere. You have to decide how much you can cope with that.

SherbetDips · 17/06/2024 18:21

JacquesHarlow · 17/06/2024 17:09

Mumsnet, please move this thread to Property - otherwise what on earth is the point of having separate forum areas?

Name change. Posting in AIBU for traffic.

look* *out everyone, someone important is here and needs ‘feedback’ NOW

Don’t be jealous

FOJN · 17/06/2024 18:18

HungryHouseHunter · 17/06/2024 18:17

Yeah we saw that one online. Looked quite frankly weird. Think we were just blown away by the space and the style of the barn. Plus the huge outside space.

That will get old very quickly if having amenities on your doorstep really matters.

BiscuityBoyle · 17/06/2024 18:18

It’s amazing but your idea of remote and mine are clearly very different. I was expecting the Scottish highlands, not within sight of a motorway.

HungryHouseHunter · 17/06/2024 18:17

FOJN · 17/06/2024 18:15

There seems to be quite a few very nice properties available for your budget in Winchester, why are you even considering the barn when it doesn't seem to meet your most important criteria?

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/147329174#/?channel=RES_BUY

Yeah we saw that one online. Looked quite frankly weird. Think we were just blown away by the space and the style of the barn. Plus the huge outside space.

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FOJN · 17/06/2024 18:15

There seems to be quite a few very nice properties available for your budget in Winchester, why are you even considering the barn when it doesn't seem to meet your most important criteria?

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/147329174#/?channel=RES_BUY

trainwreckwendy · 17/06/2024 18:15

Not really the same as I lived in a 3 bed ex local authority semi, but I lived in the country. We had a pub. Everything else was a drive. I felt so isolated with two young kids. I was so pleased when we moved to somewhere with stuff and folk. I didn't know if feel like that. But I'm not you.

HungryHouseHunter · 17/06/2024 18:12

FOJN · 17/06/2024 18:11

Another 150k, about 250 less sq/ft, more bedrooms and central.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/148998566#/?channel=RES_BUY

That is stunning to be fair. Love the music room !

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Deadpretty · 17/06/2024 18:10

ElephantsDontReadFantasy · 17/06/2024 18:05

You get a ride on mower that mulches as it goes. It’s really not an issue.

what are your specific concerns. It looks like there’s a village straight down the road? That’s really not that remote.

Mulching just means the grass is left on the surface @HungryHouseHunter it looks unsightly and if you have a dog, it’ll end up everywhere in the house.

Agree you should visit on different days when the wind direction changes as the motorway noise will be different according to wind speed and direction.

SheilaWilde · 17/06/2024 18:10

I'm quite enjoying trawling Rightmove in Winchester with my pretend budget of £2.5m.

You could buy this and walk everywhere. With your budget I'd buy this and maybe spend the extra £500k on a seaside cottage.

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146864975

ElephantsDontReadFantasy · 17/06/2024 18:05

HungryHouseHunter · 17/06/2024 17:45

Oh god. Had not even considered that!

You get a ride on mower that mulches as it goes. It’s really not an issue.

what are your specific concerns. It looks like there’s a village straight down the road? That’s really not that remote.

Gabbsters · 17/06/2024 18:05

If you actually want to live in Winchester I'd keep looking. As others have said it's not hugely remote (and I've shared my positive experience of living remotely above) but it is remote compared to living in the middle of a city and a lot of money to spend for a house that is not what you actually want. You'll also need either to spend a lot of time on the garden or employ a gardener.

SheilaWilde · 17/06/2024 18:05

That's not rural! Sainsbury's is literally 5 minutes away.
I wouldn't buy that if I had your budget:
Style over substance. A lot of wasted space and expensive to heat.
Apart from the master, the bedrooms are tiny - for a £2.5m house. Bedrooms are also on the ground floor and away from main bedroom. I wouldn't want small children on ground floor if I was a floor above.
The garden isn't secure so you couldn't just let your child/dog out in the garden without supervision.
Noise from the motorway.
No 'community', you'd be isolated and 'satellite'.
I think this is nicer, and cheaper, at least you'd have some sense of community.

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/144574994

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