To think droves of teachers will make the decision by husband made today- to leave

N9one gowa into teaching thinking its not going to be hard... nobody. Plus you so your training in a school.

The reality is horrendous 💔

Is he ok you sharing all that detail oh the Internet?

It is absolutely disgusting how some parents think it is not their responsibility to discipline their children anymore, some parents could do with some discipline themselves.
On my travels I see many questionable youths.... I would be ashamed of my child if they spoke to anyone in this manner, it must be so disheartening for your husband.
The world is an unruly place unfortunately and it's only going to get worse

Yes. I did the same. Noone understands the reality unless youve been there

Its so sad

I managed to last 10 years. The bullying came from SLT.

What the hell is going on with these parents though? They were the golden generation under a Blair government weren't they, 30 odd years ago?? What went wrong with their upbringing to make them such bad parents?

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Why are you blaming their upbringing??!

Blame them instead!

I'm so sorry for your husband, makes me so sad and angry to read this. I left teaching 10 years ago and have never looked back. It was so awful and I know it's even worse now. Really hope your husband recovers and can find something else.

This.

I'd say that some parenting is broken and some schools are unable to cope. But it's not like that everywhere.

My daughter has been teaching for almost two years and loves it. There have been a few issues but on the whole pupil behaviour is generally good.

The school seems to be very well managed, and the senior leadership team is supportive and appreciative of its staff.

This is not a selective girls grammar. It's a comprehensive.

And the comments about the behaviour being his fault. Weak headteachers and senior staff who don't support teachers end up with this sort of behaviour in their schools.

What the hell is going on with these parents though? They were the golden generation under a Blair government weren't they, 30 odd years ago?? What went wrong with their upbringing to make them such bad parents?

I think the answer is "excess". Children of the Blair era are the analogue childhood, digital adolescence/adulthood. They grew up playing outside, on bikes, kicking a ball around, playing with manual toys, 4 channels on the TV and shell suits. The 80s and early 90s were still pretty basic times. As they matured technology took over, the internet exploded, and free credit was everywhere. They had a battered old Fiesta as their first car, then within a few years on a basic wage you could be in a new Audi. They had kids, who are now secondary age. A lot has happened since late 00's. Smartphones being the biggest change, and all the apps they offer made them into Zombies. Social Media took off, creating the look at me generation - Insta, Snapchat, good old facebook. Connectivity multiplied - whatsapp groups of parents pouring over how their kid was victimised at school, asking AIBU on here, leading to teachers being questioned and how dare they do that to my little darling. Naturally all this "excess" filtered down to the brats they raised, full of entitlement and confidence, dripping in designer gear, talking like roadmen.

Or there are just far too many poorly parented nightmare children

It's the right decision 💐

He'll get another job no problem, when he's ready.

I was on the verge of leaving teaching when I found my current school. I've been there for 10 years. The school really can make a big difference.

That being said, it's a lot of work for not great money. I think about quitting at least once a year.

I hope your DH has time to heal and recover, and that he can then find something that he enjoys.

Many years ago my mum was called to my school as I had a pillow fight and broke a large chest and mirror (boarding).
She had a chat with the principal while I waited outside the office.
When she came out she told me that she never wanted to receive a call like that again. The teachers/management had more to do than supervise my reckless behaviour. She had more to do than waste a day coming to the school because of my poor judgement. It was unacceptable to destroy property even if by mistake and she expected to me to work for the summer and pay for the damage. The principal was standing there the whole time. She turned to him and said I presume you will suspend her if it ever happens again - that would seem appropriate. The staff have a job to do - educate us and we need to let them get on with it.
I over heard one of the other mums say to her daughter, my friend she would wish she was never born if she pulled a stunt like that again! 😁
At the heart of it was - get on with things, be a team player, respect your school, respect the work your teachers are doing and there are consequences.
The parents and the school were a team.
I feel that would not happen today.

@Walesnotwhales

It sounds like parenting, rather than the system, is broken!

Nail on the head. The inevitable end result of a few decades of child centric parenting/teaching where the little darlings have become the bosses with no discipline nor consequences for poor behaviour.

If the Sure Start centres were the answer, then we should be seeing an improvement in current children starting school, as they're now of the generation where their parents should have "benefitted" from Sure Start centres 20 years ago. We're not seeing it! If anything, today's nursery and primary school starters are worse than ever.

We need a whole new approach to parenting and teaching. We need some proper consequences for poor pupil (and parent) behaviour. Maybe corporal punishment is a step too far, but we need something else, maybe a return to borstals where the worst offenders can be taken out of mainstream and "dealt with" separately by specialists allowing the majority of pupils who want to learn to be able to go to school without the disruption, bullying, etc.

This is why we bust our guts to pay school fees and will suck up labour’s 20% (won’t make a blind bit of difference).

I really appreciate every single one of my kids’ teachers and would be happy for the book to be thrown at them for this kind of behaviour. Hope he finds a great school soon x

society is broken, parenting is broken, it is all so sad

To be it sounds like a parenting issue where you are, kids need to be taught respect at home

When I started teaching we were deemed to be ‘in loco parentis’ and behave as any reasonable parent should -

I have a few friends who’ve recently managed to leave teaching due to the violence and disruption. The remaining one is more hesitant as she’s a single earner but is absolutely sick of the abuse she gets from both parents and kids.

Christ knows what these kids are going to be like as the workforce of tomorrow.

Vaping is also a massive problem, but when schools try to manage it by monitoring toilet use, so many parents on here get outraged.

The system isn’t broken. Some children are and some parents are.

In really hope your DH feels better soon.