To think droves of teachers will make the decision by husband made today- to leave

No standards, no boundaries, no consequences, and senior educators have allowed that to happen.

You could also replace senior educators with 'parents'!

Perhaps the govt are to blame around under funding, however you see all too often in the press parents kicking off at new HT coming in and enforcing rules! I find the rulesin school far too lax in this country.

Assaulting a teacher should be as bad as assaulting a police officer or ambulance worker in my book. You better have a very good story or you’re instantly expelled. Set up special sink schools/borstals for the feral kids who will never amount to anything.

I think many of the parents would be surprised at what we have to put up with, even the ones who are part of the problem.
I have been punched, verbally abused and spat at by children, and it is horrible.
However, what is pushing me to breaking point is the entitlement of parents who cannot understand why we don't pander to their children like they do.
In the past two weeks I have had parents

• demand I redo the Euro 24 class sweepstake as their child is traumatised by the team they picked out.
• a long email chain with a parent who is taking their child on a non-authorised holiday in term-time and wants all the lessons they will be missing, I have politely refused so they keep taking it higher- I believe in the last email they are now taking it to Ofsted!
• a parent distraught that their child is being bullied and excluded by the other children. Their evidence - the child wasn't invited to a party which only 6 children in the class attended. Nothing has happened in school.
• the old favourite- I shouted at their child. They had climbed up a tree and were refusing to come down. I wouldn't have called it a shout, more a stern voice.
• only today a parent told me at drop off their child might be tired as they stayed up late watching the football. Said child hit someone and had some time out - the parent had the cheek to say the punishment wasn't fair as I hadn't taken their tiredness into account!

I work across schools. Across the end of this term and the Autumn, out of 15 schools there are 4 headteacher resignations and 3 deputy headteacher resignations.

None of these professionals have jobs to go to yet. None are staying in education. All are mid/late 30’s, early 40’s.

There was a thread recently about the things we will look back on when we are old and think were bizarre.

Mine is schools. That in the past educators thought (or allowed to happen) the creation of huge, one size fits all, comprehensives for 1500 children. Together with the race for paper qualifications that do everything except educate or or provide practical skills.

And we wonder why there's a rash of mental I'll health amongst teenagers.

No standards, no boundaries, no consequences, and senior educators have allowed that to happen.

Interested to know if better in private schools?

Also interested to know what teachers feel will happen when swathes of privately educated children move to the state system in September? My local primary is currently 34 children per class and will need
to increase.

Well when I was little the ‘rough’ parents used to smack and shout at their children. It wasn’t good - but it was discipline of a form. Now the same type of people ‘back their kids all the way’ - frankly making an already poor gene pool worse by enabling them and letting them get hooked on screens, junk food, vapes and whatever else. They’ve created monsters.

It's 'you' not 'u' and you have no idea what you are talking about,

You have literally no idea what goes on in your children's school.

@Skybluepinky You are definitely 'that parent'.

Supply teachers were treated badly when I was at school and so are the ones who teach my DD’s year, some of the kids behaviour is awful. I’d never encourage any of my kids go into teaching and I always say it’s minimum wage or less if you factor in the unpaid hours. We get a lot of ex teachers when I’m sifting applications for my team in the civil service. Get him to consider this as a career, way better than teaching and if he comes in at entry level he can work his way up.

Idiotic comment.

I hope he is OK.

Tories have tried ( and failed) at that twice over. In a year there were 22 ex military personnel who started the programme….even with a £40,000 bursary.

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/rebooted-troops-to-teachers-fails-to-take-off/

(Though supply is brutal and to be avoided)

supply made me! Yes, it's brutal but my goodness, you either sink or swim. I learnt so much on supply - and have always said that a term on day to day supply should be a compulsory element of the first 5 years of teaching. You don't have to worry about marking or progress or anything else. Just keeping bums on seats and some semblance of work in books (and not always that). You get to go in loads of schools and you get to talk to staff. You see which Heads are well thought of, you see it yourself, with your own eyes you learn which SLT are shite and where support is given and where it isn't. You know which schools don't work for you - not necessarily because of poor behaviour or anything else, but the ones where the current staff team is not one you gel with - and which schools do work for you and it's never what you expect it to be. I left supply after 2 years, taking a long term supply job at an independent that I then never left - they had had a small string of supply before me that hadn't made the grade. I also know which schools I would look to move back to in the state sector if it came to it and if necessary, I would go back on supply in a heartbeat.

It's an opportunity if you approach it right.

I'm so sorry that is awful.

We haven't any spare special school places, at all, in my large LA.

Tory government rules under their academy programme is that LA’s cannot open new schools. They can and do plan places and can build schools ( mainstream or special)but then an academy trust has to be found to open the new school.

Process is
LA evidence the need for SEN places and apply to the DfE. (government’s Department for Education)
DfE decide which LA’s can or cannot plan and build a new school.
DfE find a suitable interested academy trust to open and run the school.

In my LA, we have three earmarked sites and plans approved for much needed special schools. Unfortunately, no trust has shown an interest and the DfE do not have the jurisdictions to make a trust do this.

In my LA, they try not to move pupils to special schools because the only available places are out of the LA and independent. The LA is responsible for full transport costs and the school fees. Fees can be in excess of £100,000 per child per year ( eating up funding for all SEND pupils). Rise in transport costs are budget busting alone.

None of this is right. None of the politicising if education, helps any child ( or school/LA leader, class teacher, support staff) It is another Tory broken system which LA’s have to work with as best they can.

Oooooh - how very provocative....

What they need is some big burly army sergeants in the classroom. If they try any tricks theh will bloody well know about it.
And the parents will as well 😉

@YellowDayToday there is great diversity across the ND population and true numbers are probably significantly higher than most realise. It's incredibly difficult to access assessments without paying for many. Special schools just won't suit all of these kids. Fir example, my son is very intelligent, a good pupil,great reports, but he is Autistic/ADHD and makes random noises at times. He's sociable, has lots of friends but would never do well lumped in with kids who have learning disabilities or severe behaviour struggles. Yet, on some level he would be disruptive.

Mainstream schools need significantly more investment, pastoral support, help for those with extra needs so teachers can just do their basic job of teaching. The Government knows they are screwing everyone over, schools and many pupils so they decide to focus on attendance targets in typical blame shifting style!

Nosy question but what has she gone into now? It’s so hard to find something that pays well to transfer into

@duvetdayy I'd love to see your report templates if they are only taking 10 hours to complete 😮 (I'm
genuinely hoping that you do get them done in 10 hours...you clearly have a great SLT if they have made them so quick to fill in 😍)

I'm an experienced primary teacher of 30 years... and even with my experience each one takes me 45 minutes, so in total I spend over 22 hours writing reports (16 done, 14 to do, so I'm over the halfway mark 💪)

I agree it sounds more like society is broken than the school system.

Um sounds like you would be the type of parent who would be having a child causing problems in school.
Did you not read that he was assaulted several times.
And you think that is acceptable.

My sister has just resigned after 22 years she is a head teacher - has been attacked, threatened, hit round the head (and sent to hospital with concussion), screamed at by parents - she has found a wonderful new job and is off!!

She too has had enough -it is mostly parents who don’t care, or have no boundaries- who expect teachers to parent! who think its okay to swear and shout at staff and kids who just copy these behaviours!! It’s dreadful!! I hope you husband spends the time he needs recovering.