To think droves of teachers will make the decision by husband made today- to leave

There won't be many jobs that don't require some level of education before long. And even now, those jobs don't pay very much at all.

But not many jobs that just involve filling shelves, some stores will expect some cleaning too. Or is that also too difficult?

To be fair there are a lot of jobs you could do without knowing how to write a verb in its past progressive form or being able to divide a fraction by a fraction. I managed to get two postgraduate qualifications in different subjects without knowing half the grammar year 6 has to know now! I've never had a problem getting or keeping a job either.

If schoolwork is too hard for children, how are they going to cope with work?

There are jobs that don't require academic ability, or knowledge of subjects like maths (even at upper primary school level).

I haven't the answers..
But I definatly know politicians don't..

Yes, about to get much worse with the levelling down agenda. I would rather moved countries than sending my kids to state school in my area. I saw a mother outside one of the local state school calling his toddler you fucking piece of shit! It was very disturbing and I decided right then I would have to pay and arm and a leg to send my kids to private.

If schoolwork is too hard for children, how are they going to cope with work?

It’s a reflection of 14 years of a government that has allowed our infrastructure in every area to fail. Social services/legal/healthcare/housing/policing/schools. Turning schools into businesses. All this is a reflection of the devastation this government has caused but of course some have the option to pay their way out of social problems and ignore their part in creating these problems after voting in grifters who wanted austerity for the many and profits for the few.

Not that it will make this anyone happier but this problem is not just a "UK-problem". Visit Scandinavia, Germany and France and you will see the same thing. The "thugs" one could meet in secondary school are now in primary school assaulting others while sending videos of it on snapchat. I'm sure screen time without parental control, absence of parents who are on screens themselves when not working have something to do with it but I'm sure there are other contributing factors as well...

According to my daughter 10 teachers are leaving at the end of this school year! Very sad

I certainly didn't have to know all the grammar they do now when I was 11. It's too long ago for me to remember with certainty what I did in maths at age 11 but I don't think it was as hard, no.

You can see here what they had to do in SATs this year...

Grammar
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/key-stage-2-tests-2024-english-grammar-punctuation-and-spelling-test-materials

Writing
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/2018-teacher-assessment-exemplification-ks2-english-writing

reading
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/key-stage-2-tests-2024-english-reading-test-materials

maths
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/key-stage-2-tests-2024-mathematics-test-materials

Is it significantly harder than 30y ago? Or could the difference be that my generation (80s kid) had to do homework and not doing it was not an option (parents would check, consequences from school etc)
(disclaimer: wasn’t in the uk)

You surely don't think that all parents checked? I have been a teacher for 30 years in UK schools. I've never worked in one which did not have consequences for not doing homework. I went to school in the 1980s too btw. There have always been plenty of children who found schoolwork too hard.

And sadly you’re a big part of the problem!

Absolutely not being unreasonable at all - it's becoming a tale as old as time. I quit 4 years ago (taught for 15 years). Lots of reasons for leaving, but the catalysts being bullying from management, and losing a pregnancy after a pupil threw a table at me. It didn't hit me, and so I can't say it's the reason I lost the baby, but the stress of it all certainly contributed. I was the last of my university course friends to pack it in.

I have no idea anymore about how it can be fixed, but as a new parent it certainly makes me worry about my children's education in the future.

Even by the end of primary the work is too hard for a lot children
Is it significantly harder than 30y ago? Or could the difference be that my generation (80s kid) had to do homework and not doing it was not an option (parents would check, consequences from school etc)
(disclaimer: wasn’t in the uk)

I honestly fear for the future! Who is going to want to do teaching or join the police force in the future?!….. no one is the answer!!
My DD 13 comes home daily talking about abusive behaviour… year 7’s vaping, kids self harming, kids bulking each other… kids abusing teachers and supply teachers!…. Bloody awful!
My DD is lovely and has had issues transitioning to seniors … 11 / 12 year old sending each other nude pics…. It’s awful! I fear for the future !

Simple: give schools the power to temporary/permanently exclude pupils. It could be internal exclusion (isolation).
Encourage schools to treat every offense seriously. Threats/violence/theft should be reported to the police, cctv should be investigated, etc.
Basically if there are consequences the thugs will either stop or leave. This leaves the SN students but I have a feeling that 1) it will be easier for them to cope with less disruption and 2) teachers will have more time and energy to assist them if they don’t have to worry about discipline.

@Shudahaddogs so what do you expect schools to do?

Forty years ago.."kids watch too much telly "!! You can't parent like your parents did, kids aren't the same. The world has changed. School has refused to keep up.

Twice I had the opportunity to leave teaching and do something else but was stopped from doing so by my mother.

I qualified in the early 80s when it was an enjoyable job but retired 2 years ago as I couldn't bear the thought of continuing as things were only going to get worse,

How incredibly sad to read. I am a teacher ( presently on maternity) and yes there are times when I would happily walk but I am fortunate that my little school is well supported by a fab head. Support from the top has a huge difference in teachers.
I wish him in well in his future career

100% agree.

I did twenty odd and could not believe how great it felt NOT to be teaching any more. MY biggest regret is that I stayed so long. If I had my time over I would not have become a teacher and would never advise anyone else to go in to it either.

My partner is a teacher and is planning to leave. He says that behaviour is awful and this year, since they changed their SLT lead, he didn’t get backing from SLT for something a child did - the child decided not to hand in their assessment - then complained and blamed it on mental health 3 months after the deadline - SLT backed the parent.

So many people are leaving his school.

It’s a shame because he loves what he teaches and likes working with young people but like other PPs have said - the system is a mess.

As a parent, I do not understand why there are loads of parents constantly taking their children’s side when they know that they are in the wrong. As a society we are letting young people get away with everything and the. We wonder why we are not a polite society.

Absolute tripe